Has anyone here done Remote Start on a Manual RX-8?
 

I'd like to get it done with the Winter coming up..although its 73 degrees in mid November here, but I've always wanted remote start

Does anyone here have it for their manual rx-8?

Cons, Pros?

yes people have this. you can get the dealer to install it i believe.

and the pros/cons are the same for just about every car...

Its illegal to install Remote start kind of thing for Manual Car.

Of course you can always do it yourself ~

Remembering to leave it out of gear is definately key.... just do it yourself, or find a local shop to do it.

I check into this a couple of years ago and was told it is illegal to install on a manual . Why I ask ? He said that if something was to happen to the car or person that they would be held responsible . If someone left the car in gear and that car would take off ........big problem for who did the hook up. Of course someone is getting sued.....

i have remote start on my car, im not worry about having my car in gear cause i have to turbo time which i cant put my car in gear when i turn off my car anyways! :)

In some places it's illegal to leave an unattended car running.

Last winter there was a piece on the news about how the police in one of the DC burbs were doing land office business prowling neighborhoods in the morning and ticketing running remote-started cars.

Check your local laws.

Ken

maybe in crazy town usa

LOL - i had it on all my other cars but after i took it to a wash and they left it in gear while me specifically telling them not the press this button my car ended up into a wall

"Honey, go start my car for me. Thanks, that's a good girl."

^ "do it yourself bitch!"

thatz why you keep your factory alarm and dont give them the remote for remote start! lol! :lol:

I've always pictured this chain of events:

a. remote start your car.

b. passerby immediately jumps in car, drives away

I've got a great remote starter: My 15 year old son who thinks it's great fun to get in my RX-8 and start it.

And as far as i know any quality car starter has a bypass for manual transmissions where you have to "set it up" to remote start before u turn the car off.

You drive home from work, pull in the driveway, put it in neutral and let ur foot off the clutch (as its tied in with the button on the floor), press the button on the remote. The lights flash telling you its setup. Turn the ignition off and take the key out (but the car remains on). Get out, lock the doors, car turns off. In the morning press the button, car turns on.

Fail safe for noobs

When you hit the brakes in a car that has been remote started it turns off unless a key is in the ignition (and turned to run)

My kids ain't falling for that. :lol2:

Just check your local/state laws. In the state of Kentucky, it's illegal to have a vehicle running unattended, even if the doors are locked. The laws purpose is supposedly to prevent vehicle theft. Even though remote starts have the kill switch if you hit the brakes without inserting the key, KY's law does not care.

Honestly, the odds of a police officer enforcing the law is pretty slim to none, though. I mean, seriously, are the cops driving around neighborhoods in the morning, looking for cars running? I seriously doubt it. There's "actual" crimes going on that they are dealing with (such as, "it's a crime for krispy kreme to only have 50 donuts fresh and hot at any given time; they need bigger equipment"!)

Maybe you should take a look at New York's law.

If thats what you mean by *crazy town*

Yeah, I guess no one elses double checks that the doors are locked by...locking them like mine does?

I have it on my RX-7s (FDs). Both are manual cars and only had 2 small incidents... Involving someone sitting in my car and them putting in gear. Besides those, no problems. I also had it on my previous daily and LOVED it! Remote start it, let the car warm up, and drive way!. I'm planning to put remote/alarm in my 8. Just need to find the time to get it installed (quoted $700).

Does the remote starter have any effect on the warranty?

Get an AT.

How much?
 

I'm planning to put remote/alarm in my 8. Just need to find the time to get it installed (quoted $700).[/QUOTE]

I saw a remote starter on sale at Pep Boys for 39.99 on Black Friday.
So the install is that much, cant be can it?

We have a remote start on our TL. If you put your foot on the brake to put the car in gear without putting the key in, the engine will shut off. Not sure how that would work on an MT.

We do have a remote start on our MT saturn and it's the same!The only thing is that you have to be in neutral when you turn off the car or it won't start!

It's easy and really helpful for the flooding issue on the 8 i guess, i'll have one on the 8 shortly, thanks to my wife and my birthday! :)

I saw a remote starter on sale at Pep Boys for 39.99 on Black Friday.
So the install is that much, cant be can it?[/QUOTE]


Yes it can..

First, you need a box that will bypass oem security (the chip in the key).

Second, I don't want just remote start but also ones that I could program how long the car will run for... I don't want the car to be idling for days if I don't shut it off.

Third, the alarm.. I'm not just getting the remote start but also the security system that will control remote locking and such.. I hate carrying extra keys or key fobs..

At the end, all this ads up and also the labor to get this puppy connected.. I paid $500 or so for my remote start on both of my FDs and because of the chipped key, I need to spend couple of hundred more for it..

The ONLY thread you will ever hear this advice :lol:

Is there a way around the security system without leaving a key in the car (or any of the other similar approaches)? This essentially makes the immobilization feature useless since someone can break in, hotwire the car and drive away...

To bad there isn't a Remote Start system that uses the existing ECU for the 'in gear' sensor... I was going through the OBD interface, and there is a value for 'in gear', which looks to be operational.

On a Tangent, Autopage is looking to streamline remote interface based on the recent C3 show.

http://www.c3autopageusa.com/

Yes, you need a programmable immobilizer bypass. I used a DEI 1100F in my girlfriend's 3 and it works perfectly, no key. The difference is that it has the chip in it, so you just program the chip instead of the bypass using the chip in the key. The immobilizer bypass only powers when the remote start tells it to, so if someone broke in they wouldn't be able to hotwire it.

If you're going to end up buying one get it from eBay or the like, it should cost around $50. Circuit City has them on their website for $150...

Gotcha, thanks. That makes alot of sense now. This means that I might have to install one of these though :)

Also, there is a neutral switch on the transmission we could be tapping into...

maybe on a blown vette or something, but id love to see the rx8 start and not stall even WITHOUT the emergency brake up.

Indeed.. I'd be more concerned about flooding the engine than running into something..

i start my car all the time with the handbrake up or down. it makes no difference.

what are you talking about?

Shinka213 just got this done on hers.

He's talking about remote starting the car in gear. With relatively low torque, he feels it would stall before driving into something...

I have an alarm/remote starter thats "made" for manual. When I park my car, i press a button on the remote where the car chirps while its still running. Then, when u remove the key, the car is still running. U then open the door and exit the vehicle while the car is still running and the keys are in ur hand. Then, when u close the door, the car shuts off in which u arm it.
The alarm knows that because u exited the car while it was running then it must be in neutral hence its 100% safe to autostart the car. If the door reopens or the alarm gets set off for whatever reason then u cannot autostart the car as the unit will deactivate the autostart feature and ull have to cycle through the original steps again in order to prep it to autostart.
In this instance... The only way the car will jerk forward if i autostart it would be if the car is in gear and the only way to trick the system is if someone was in the car and pressed the shifter forward. But who ever was in there would have to sit in the car all night/day motionless as not to set off the alarm to deactivate the autostart feature and assuming he managed not to set the alarm off and i autostart... then he would be in it as the car would hurl through a brick wall.

In many cars it's a lot easier than that ^. I installed a Viper 5900 in my 3 and there is a neutral lead if you have a manual. You hook the neutral lead from the Viper to the car's and it then knows if the car is in neutral. That seems like a better application, less complicated anyway.

Just use the neutral safety wire that all decent remote starts have and hook it up to the neutral switch that runs from the tranny to the PCM.

That way it won't start in gear... no BS about pressing the brake or opening doors and holding the hand brake.... it just doesn't start if the car is in gear.