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First Impressions (Long)
I got my Galaxy Gray '06 a couple days ago and so far have put only 100 miles on the clock. (What can I say? Gas is just expensive here in LA.) I don't have pictures yet, and I can't promise when they're coming, but I will talk about my initial impressions of the car below:
Overall, I think the experience is the closest thing to driving a jet that you can ever get to. The engine is just so buttery smooth, though I fear that the mileage on this tank will be quite bad, as expected. The handling, as far as I can tell, is quite neutral and balanced, but so far it's only been LA metro driving; I need to take it into the mountains one of these days, but my initial impression is that the car will excel on the medium speed roads, and not do quite as well on the extremely tight ones that I used to run for the majority of my drives. The transmission is extremely direct and the throws are very nice and short, but it seems to clunk a bit into the lower gears. I'm hoping that's just the tranny being tight since it's brand new. The brakes I haven't quite tested yet, but from the moderate braking that I've used they seem to be pretty confidence inspiring. The interior is a treat and I especially like it at night. To continue with the jet analogy, the back seats are like economy class, certainly not the most comfortable of places, but a very unique experience nonetheless. The freestyle doors have proven themselves to be very cool and I love them, even though they were viewed as quite unnecessary when I was first shopping for the car. Finally, the styling is growing on me, though the C-pillar area I still think is a bit messy. However, the Galaxy Gray is a gorgeous color, a menacing dark gray at night, and a cool light blue-gray in direct sunlight. Overall, I love the car, though it still has its shortcomings (the aforementioned gas mileage to beat a dead horse, and it can stand to lose a few hundred pounds). My friend said it best when he stated that the RX-8 is one of the few cars with character left in the world today. When you're driving or in a RX-8, you know its a RX-8 and wouldn't mistake it for anything else. The same can't be said for the multitude of other cars and even "sports cars" today. It's simply unique. |
:tear: Brings a tear to my eye! :tear:
.....and makes me wanna DRIVE!!! :rock: |
Just parked mine after getting lunch. :D:
They are like jets, and they kinda sound like it, drive like it, and drink gas like it. As for the c-pillar, look at the Rx-7 (SA/FB, 1st-gen) and it'll all be clear.. Welcome to the rotary madness.. there is no cure. Well, maybe a quad-cam italian-made twelve-banger, but that's a touch extreme, money-wise... ;) |
OK, good stuff.
But lose a few HUNDRED pounds? From where, exactly? |
ditto on the "few hundred pounds" comment.
It's always nice to get another convert. Welcome to brotherhood...one more for the good guys |
You can lose a few hundred pounds by removing the engine, aside from that, the car is pretty damn light. Alum hood, trunk, rear doors. Carbon fiber drive shaft, etc.
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I don't think there's a 4-seater car that's lighter.
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that wasnt long- where is the long post?
and i thinkyou'll find that the car does exceptionally well on the tight roads- like 1 going north out of frisco hehehehe THATS FUN!! (almost had to pull over cause the wife thought she might puke hehehhehehe) |
Let's make it quite clear, I wish it was a few hundred pounds lighter, but as it is I would not get anywhere near that number unless I wanted a fully stripped out racecar. Losing a few hundred pounds would involve losing probably 10 inches of wheelbase, the rear seats, and the freestyle doors. In other words, it would be a completely new car. Still, I can dream.
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if u're hoping to lose a few pounds so u can increase ur power to weight ratio....
it's usually better to just increase ur power than to lose weight IMO. the rx8's special because it offers the level of performance as well as comfort/practicality....don't kill the latter in attempt to lose weight....:( just wait for a more effective turbo kit to come out, slap it on and call it a day :) now if u're talkin about losing weight so u can turn faster...do some suspension mods and the car should handle pretty darn well for u already. outta curiousity what was ur previous car? |
Originally Posted by LionZoo
I and not do quite as well on the extremely tight ones that I used to run for the majority of my drives.
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Originally Posted by LionZoo
I The transmission is extremely direct and the throws are very nice and short, but it seems to clunk a bit into the lower gears.
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Originally Posted by Raptor2k
I don't think there's a 4-seater car that's lighter.
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Oh yea, forgot about hatchbacks
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Originally Posted by Raptor2k
Oh yea, forgot about hatchbacks
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Originally Posted by Ike
Guess it wasn't a joke... :Eyecrazy:
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Originally Posted by Raptor2k
Are there any 4 seaters lighter than the 8 besides hatchbacks?
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Originally Posted by Raptor2k
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Curbweight is around 3000lbs depending on options, that isn't exactly a lightweight... Light compared to a lot of cars, but if you're looking for light and nimble there are plenty lighter, and many of them have 4 seats and even 4 doors. |
Originally Posted by Ike
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Curbweight is around 3000lbs depending on options, that isn't exactly a lightweight... Light compared to a lot of cars, but if you're looking for light and nimble there are plenty lighter, and many of them have 4 seats and even 4 doors. |
Originally Posted by tiggerlee
If your referring to the "notchyness" in 1st & 2nd that's just the nature of the beast. It was one of my concerns on the test drive I took. Both M/T's I drove were that way. Don't worry about it, after awhile you get use to it.
As to my obsession with lightweight, it's not really a means to an end, but almost an end to itself. Lightweight is the holy grail of racecar designers, and having done that the past few years I am definitely looking for ways to make the car light. Turbos increase your straight line speed, suspension helps your lateral gs, bigger brakes stop you better. Lighter weight does all of that. However, I definitely won't be sacrificing the civility of the car in the interest of lightweight. My previous car was a 2001 Subaru Impreza 2.5RS. |
Originally Posted by zoom44
that wasnt long- where is the long post?
and i thinkyou'll find that the car does exceptionally well on the tight roads- like 1 going north out of frisco hehehehe THATS FUN!! (almost had to pull over cause the wife thought she might puke hehehhehehe) We must be married to the same woman...... :spank: |
Pictures have been posted in the multimedia section under the "Calling all Galaxy Gray" thread.
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You won't lose much weight off the 8 unofortunately... It's about as light as you can get it without having a stripped out interior.
You can save a few pounds in the wheels and battery though. If you have the packages, they add about 100 pounds or so to the total weight. |
Originally Posted by Stavesacre21
Just curious...what are some of those cars?
2006 Mazda MAZDA6 i Sports Sedan 3091 2006 Mazda MAZDA6 i Sports Sedan Sport Model 3091 2005 Subaru Impreza WRX Sedan 3085 2005 Volvo S40 2.4i 3084 2005 Honda Accord Sedan LX 5-Spd MT 3053 2005 Honda Accord Sedan DX 5-Spd AT 3049 2005 Honda Accord Sedan DX VP 5-Spd AT 3049 2005 Nissan Altima 2.5 S 3041 2006 Nissan Altima 2.5 S 3041 2006 Subaru Impreza 2.5i Sedan 3016 2005 Volkswagen Jetta Sedan GLS TDI 3003 2005 Nissan Altima 2.5 3001 2006 Nissan Altima 2.5 3001 2005 Honda Accord Sedan DX 5-Spd MT 2989 2005 Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS Sport Package Sedan 2976 2005 Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS Sedan 2972 2005 Volkswagen Golf GLS 1.9 TDI 2972 2006 Volkswagen Golf GLS 1.9 TDI 2972 2005 Volkswagen Golf GL 1.9 TDI Sedan 2934 2005 Volkswagen Jetta Sedan GLS 2.0L 2934 2005 Volkswagen Jetta Sedan GLS 2.0L PZEV 2934 2006 Mitsubishi Lancer Ralliart 2922 2005 Dodge SRT-4 Base 2900 2005 Volkswagen Golf GLS 2.0 2897 2006 Volkswagen Golf GLS 2.0 2897 2005 Volkswagen Jetta Sedan GL 2.0L 2895 2005 Volkswagen Jetta Sedan GL 2.0L PZEV 2895 2005 Toyota Prius 4-Door Liftback 2890 2006 Toyota Prius 4-Door Liftback 2890 2006 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Sedan 2871 2006 Honda Civic Hybrid CVT AT-PZEV 2869 2006 Honda Civic Hybrid CVT AT-PZEV w/ Navigation System 2869 2005 Suzuki Aerio Sedan LX AWD 2859 2006 Suzuki Aerio Sedan Base AWD 2859 2006 Suzuki Aerio Sedan Premium AWD 2859 2005 Volkswagen Golf GL 2.0 Sedan 2857 2006 Volkswagen Golf GL 2.0 Sedan 2857 2005 Kia Spectra5 Base 2844 2006 Kia Spectra5 Base 2844 2005 Mitsubishi Lancer Ralliart 2843 2006 Hyundai Elantra Limited 4-Door 2837 2006 Saturn ION 3 Sedan Automatic 2831 2005 Kia Spectra EX 2826 2005 Kia Spectra SX 2826 2005 Mazda MAZDA3 SP23 5-Door 2826 2005 Mazda MAZDA3 s 5-Door 2826 2005 Chevrolet Cavalier LS Sport Sedan 2808 2006 Honda Civic Sedan EX 5-Spd AT 2804 2006 Honda Civic Sedan EX 5-Spd AT w/ Navigation System 2804 2006 Saturn ION 2 Sedan Automatic 2802 2006 Hyundai Elantra GLS 4-Door 2784 2006 Hyundai Elantra GLS 5-Door 2784 2006 Hyundai Elantra GT 5-Door 2784 2005 Suzuki Reno EX 2783 2005 Saturn ION 3 Sedan 2772 2006 Saturn ION 3 Sedan Manual 2772 2005 Mazda MAZDA3 SP23 4-Door 2762 2005 Mazda MAZDA3 s 4-Door 2762 2006 Mazda MAZDA3 s 4-Door 2762 2006 Mazda MAZDA3 s Grand Touring 4-Door 2762 2006 Mazda MAZDA3 s Touring 4-Door 2762 2005 Nissan Sentra SE-R 2761 2006 Nissan Sentra SE-R 2761 2005 Suzuki Forenza EX 2756 2006 Saturn ION 2 Sedan Manual 2752 2006 Honda Civic Sedan LX 5-Spd AT 2751 2005 Honda Civic Hybrid CVT AT-PZEV 2749 2006 Mitsubishi Lancer ES 2745 2006 Mitsubishi Lancer OZ-Rally 2745 2005 Saturn ION 2 Sedan 2743 2006 Honda Civic Sedan EX 5-Spd MT 2740 2006 Honda Civic Sedan EX 5-Spd MT w/ Navigation System 2740 2005 Suzuki Reno LX 2739 2005 Suzuki Reno S 2739 2006 Suzuki Reno Base 2739 2006 Suzuki Reno Convenience 2739 2006 Suzuki Reno Premium 2739 2005 Honda Civic Hybrid CVT 2736 2005 Saturn ION 1 Sedan 2722 2005 Nissan Sentra SE-R Spec V 2710 2006 Nissan Sentra SE-R Spec V 2710 2005 Honda Civic GX NGV CVT w/ ABS [Limited Availability] 2703 2005 Kia Spectra LX 2701 2005 Suzuki Forenza LX 2701 2005 Suzuki Forenza S 2701 2006 Kia Spectra EX 2701 2006 Kia Spectra SX 2701 2006 Suzuki Forenza Base 2701 2006 Suzuki Forenza Premium 2701 2005 Mitsubishi Lancer OZ-Rally 2700 2005 Mazda MAZDA3 i 4-Door 2696 2006 Mazda MAZDA3 i 4-Door 2696 2006 Mazda MAZDA3 i Touring 4-Door 2696 2006 Honda Civic Sedan DX 5-Spd AT 2690 2006 Honda Civic Sedan LX 5-Spd MT 2685 2005 Honda Civic Hybrid 5-Spd MT AT-PZEV 2684 2005 Chevrolet Cavalier LS Sedan 2676 2005 Chevrolet Cavalier Sedan 2676 2005 Honda Civic Hybrid 5-Spd MT 2675 2005 Toyota Corolla XRS 2670 2006 Toyota Corolla XRS 2670 2005 Honda Civic Sedan EX 4-Spd AT 2668 2005 Honda Civic Sedan EX 4-Spd AT w/ Front Side Airbags 2668 2005 Honda Civic Sedan EX SE 4-Spd AT 2668 2005 Suzuki Aerio Sedan LX 2661 2005 Suzuki Aerio Sedan S 2661 2006 Suzuki Aerio Sedan Base 2661 2006 Suzuki Aerio Sedan Premium 2661 2005 Mitsubishi Lancer ES 2656 2005 Hyundai Elantra GLS 4-Door 2635 2005 Hyundai Elantra GLS 5-Door 2635 2005 Hyundai Elantra GT 4-Door 2635 2005 Hyundai Elantra GT 5-Door 2635 2006 Honda Civic Sedan DX 5-Spd MT 2628 2005 Dodge Neon SXT 2626 2005 Honda Civic Sedan EX 5-Spd MT 2612 2005 Honda Civic Sedan EX 5-Spd MT w/ Front Side Airbags 2612 2005 Honda Civic Sedan EX SE 5-Spd MT 2612 2005 Honda Civic Sedan LX 4-Spd AT 2606 2005 Honda Civic Sedan LX 4-Spd AT w/ Front Side Airbags 2606 2005 Honda Civic Sedan LX SE 4-Spd AT 2606 2005 Dodge Neon SE 2581 2005 Nissan Sentra 1.8 S 2581 2006 Nissan Sentra 1.8 S 2580 2005 Honda Civic Sedan LX 5-Spd MT 2560 2005 Honda Civic Sedan LX 5-Spd MT w/ Front Side Airbags 2560 2005 Honda Civic Sedan LX SE 5-Spd MT 2560 2007 Honda Fit Sport 5-Spd AT 2551 2005 Toyota Corolla LE 2550 2005 Toyota Corolla S 2550 2006 Toyota Corolla LE 2550 2006 Toyota Corolla S 2550 2005 Honda Civic Sedan VP 4-Spd AT 2544 2005 Honda Civic Sedan VP 4-Spd AT w/ Front Side Airbags 2544 2005 Toyota Corolla CE 2530 2006 Toyota Corolla CE 2530 2007 Honda Fit 5-Spd AT 2514 2005 Nissan Sentra 1.8 2513 2006 Nissan Sentra 1.8 2513 2007 Honda Fit Sport 5-Spd MT 2471 2005 Honda Civic Sedan DX 5-Spd MT 2449 2005 Honda Civic Sedan DX 5-Spd MT w/ Front Side Airbags 2449 2007 Honda Fit 5-Spd MT 2432 2005 Kia Rio Sedan 2403 2005 Chevrolet Aveo LT Sedan 2376 2006 Chevrolet Aveo LT Sedan 2376 2006 Hyundai Accent GLS 2366 2005 Chevrolet Aveo LS Sedan 2365 2005 Chevrolet Aveo Special Value Sedan 2365 2006 Chevrolet Aveo LS Sedan 2365 2006 Chevrolet Aveo Special Value Sedan 2365 2006 Kia Rio Base 2365 2006 Kia Rio LX Sedan 2365 2005 Scion xA 5-Door Hatch Back 2340 2006 Scion xA 5-Door Hatch Back 2340 2007 Toyota Yaris S 2293 2007 Toyota Yaris Sedan 2293 2005 Hyundai Accent GLS 4-Door 2290 2005 Toyota ECHO 4-Door Sedan 2055 Coupes, many are 4 seaters but not all: 2006 Honda Accord Coupe EX 5-Spd MT 3097 2006 Honda Accord Coupe EX 5-Spd MT w/ Leather and XM Radio 3097 2006 Honda Accord Coupe EX 5-Spd MT w/ Leather/ Nav/ XM Radio 3097 2005 Pontiac Grand Am GT Coupe 3091 2005 Pontiac Grand Am GT1 Coupe 3091 2005 Porsche 911 Carrera Base 3075 2006 Porsche 911 Carrera Coupe 3075 2005 Honda Accord Coupe LX 5-Spd AT 3060 2005 Honda Accord Coupe LX SE 5-Spd AT 3060 2006 Honda Accord Coupe LX 5-Spd MT 3056 2005 Dodge Stratus Coupe SXT 3051 2005 Honda Accord Coupe EX 5-Spd MT 3047 2005 Honda Accord Coupe EX 5-Spd MT w/ Leather and XM Radio 3047 2005 Honda Accord Coupe EX 5-Spd MT w/ Leather/ Nav/ XM Radio 3047 2005 Porsche 911 GT3 Coupe 3043 2005 Volkswagen GTI VR6 3036 2005 Hyundai Tiburon SE 3023 2005 Hyundai Tiburon GT 3015 2006 Volkswagen New Beetle TDI 3005 2005 Honda Accord Coupe LX 5-Spd MT 2994 2005 Honda Accord Coupe LX SE 5-Spd MT 2994 2005 Chevrolet Cobalt Coupe 2991 2005 Chevrolet Cobalt LS Coupe 2991 2005 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Supercharged Coupe 2991 2006 Chevrolet Cobalt LS Coupe 2991 2006 Chevrolet Cobalt LT Coupe 2991 2006 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Supercharged Coupe 2991 2005 Volkswagen New Beetle GLS 1.9L TDI 2989 2005 Audi TT 180 Coupe FrontTrak 2987 2006 Audi TT 180 Coupe FrontTrak 2987 2006 Hyundai Tiburon SE 2986 2006 Hyundai Tiburon GT 2969 2006 Hyundai Tiburon GT LTD 2969 2005 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS 2965 2006 Porsche Cayman S 2954 2005 Saleen S7 Twin Turbo 2950 2005 Hyundai Tiburon GS 2940 2005 Volkswagen GTI 1.8T 2934 2006 Volkswagen GTI 1.8T 2934 2005 Saturn ION Red Line Quad Coupe 2933 2006 Saturn ION Red Line Quad Coupe 2933 2005 Scion tC Sport Coupe 2905 2006 Scion tC Sport Coupe 2905 2006 Hyundai Tiburon GS 2898 2006 Volkswagen New Beetle 2.5L 2884 2006 Volkswagen New Beetle 2.5L PZEV 2884 2006 Honda Civic Si 6-Spd MT 2877 2006 Honda Civic Si 6-Spd MT w/ Nav 2877 2006 Honda Civic Si 6-Spd MT w/ Nav and Performance Tires 2877 2006 Honda Civic Si 6-Spd MT w/ Performance Tires 2877 2006 Saturn ION 3 Quad Coupe Automatic 2871 2006 Saturn ION 2 Quad Coupe Automatic 2843 2006 Acura RSX Type-S 6-Spd MT w/ Leather 2840 2005 Volkswagen New Beetle GLS 1.8T 2820 2006 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Coupe 2815 2005 Saturn ION 3 Quad Coupe 2812 2006 Saturn ION 3 Quad Coupe Manual 2812 2005 Acura RSX 5-Spd AT 2809 2005 Acura RSX 5-Spd AT w/ Leather 2809 2006 Acura RSX 5-Spd AT 2809 2006 Acura RSX 5-Spd AT w/ Leather 2809 2005 Honda Civic Si 5-Spd MT w/ Front Side Airbags 2786 2005 Saturn ION 2 Quad Coupe 2784 2006 Saturn ION 2 Quad Coupe Manual 2784 2005 Honda Civic Si 5-Spd MT 2778 2005 Pontiac Sunfire Coupe 2771 2005 Pontiac Sunfire Coupe w/1SV 2771 2005 Volkswagen Golf GL 2.0 2771 2005 Acura RSX Type-S 6-Spd MT w/ Leather 2769 2006 Honda Civic Coupe EX 5-Spd AT 2767 2006 Honda Civic Coupe EX 5-Spd AT w/ Navigation System 2767 2006 Saleen S7 Twin Turbo 2750 2005 Chevrolet Cavalier LS Sport Coupe 2749 2005 Volkswagen New Beetle GL 2.0L 2743 2005 Volkswagen New Beetle GLS 2.0L 2743 2005 Acura RSX 5-Spd MT 2734 2005 Acura RSX 5-Spd MT w/ Leather 2734 2006 Acura RSX 5-Spd MT 2734 2006 Acura RSX 5-Spd MT w/ Leather 2734 2006 Honda Civic Coupe LX 5-Spd AT 2716 2006 Honda Civic Coupe EX 5-Spd MT 2701 2006 Honda Civic Coupe EX 5-Spd MT w/ Navigation System 2701 2005 MINI Cooper S 2679 2006 MINI Cooper S 2679 2005 Honda Civic Coupe EX 4-Spd AT 2657 2005 Honda Civic Coupe EX 4-Spd AT w/ Front Side Airbags 2657 2005 Honda Civic Coupe EX SE 4-Spd AT 2657 2006 Honda Civic Coupe DX 5-Spd AT 2655 2006 Honda Civic Coupe LX 5-Spd MT 2654 2005 Chevrolet Cavalier Coupe 2617 2005 Chevrolet Cavalier Coupe w/1SV 2617 2005 Chevrolet Cavalier LS Coupe 2617 2005 Honda Civic Coupe EX 5-Spd MT 2597 2005 Honda Civic Coupe EX 5-Spd MT w/ Front Side Airbags 2597 2005 Honda Civic Coupe EX SE 5-Spd MT 2597 2006 Honda Civic Coupe DX 5-Spd MT 2593 2005 Honda Civic Coupe LX 4-Spd AT 2588 2005 Honda Civic Coupe LX 4-Spd AT w/ Front Side Airbags 2588 2005 Honda Civic Coupe LX SE 4-Spd AT 2588 2005 Honda Civic Coupe LX 5-Spd MT 2538 2005 Honda Civic Coupe LX 5-Spd MT w/ Front Side Airbags 2538 2005 Honda Civic Coupe LX SE 5-Spd MT 2538 2005 MINI Cooper Base 2524 2006 MINI Cooper Base 2524 2005 Honda Civic Coupe HX CVT 2522 2005 Honda Civic Coupe HX CVT w/ Front Side Airbags 2522 2005 Honda Civic Coupe VP 4-Spd AT 2513 2005 Honda Civic Coupe VP 4-Spd AT w/ Front Side Airbags 2513 2005 Toyota Celica GTS 2500 2005 Honda Civic Coupe VP 5-Spd MT 2456 2005 Honda Civic Coupe VP 5-Spd MT w/ Front Side Airbags 2456 2005 Honda Civic Coupe HX 5-Spd MT 2441 2005 Honda Civic Coupe HX 5-Spd MT w/ Front Side Airbags 2441 2005 Toyota Celica GT 2425 2007 Toyota Yaris 3-Door Liftback 2293 2005 Hyundai Accent GLS 3-Door 2280 2005 Hyundai Accent GT 3-Door 2280 2005 Toyota ECHO 2-Door Sedan 2035 2005 Honda Insight CVT w/ AC 1975 2006 Honda Insight CVT w/ AC 1975 2005 Honda Insight 5-Spd MT w/ AC 1881 2006 Honda Insight 5-Spd MT w/ AC 1881 2005 Honda Insight 5-Spd MT 1850 2006 Honda Insight 5-Spd MT 1850 "Sports cars" (not all 4 seaters) 2005 Pontiac Grand Am GT Coupe 3091 2005 Pontiac Grand Am GT1 Coupe 3091 2005 Chrysler Crossfire Roadster 3089 2006 BMW Z4 Roadster 3.0si 3086 2005 Porsche 911 Carrera Base 3075 2006 Mazda RX-8 Sport AT 3075 2006 Porsche 911 Carrera Coupe 3075 2005 Chrysler Crossfire Coupe Limited 3061 2005 Mazda RX-8 Sport AT 3053 2005 Mazda RX-8 Sport AT Shinka 3053 2006 Mazda RX-8 6-Speed 3045 2005 Porsche 911 GT3 Coupe 3043 2005 Porsche Carrera GT Cabriolet 3043 2005 Volkswagen GTI VR6 3036 2005 Mazda RX-8 6-Speed 3029 2005 Mazda RX-8 6-Speed Shinka 3029 2005 Hyundai Tiburon SE 3023 2006 BMW Z4 Roadster 3.0i 3020 2005 Hyundai Tiburon GT 3015 2005 Chrysler Crossfire Coupe 3010 2005 BMW Z4 Roadster 3.0i 2998 2005 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Supercharged Coupe 2991 2006 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Supercharged Coupe 2991 2005 Audi TT 180 Coupe FrontTrak 2987 2006 Audi TT 180 Coupe FrontTrak 2987 2006 Hyundai Tiburon SE 2986 2006 Hyundai Tiburon GT 2969 2006 Hyundai Tiburon GT LTD 2969 2005 Porsche Boxster S 2965 2006 Porsche Boxster S 2965 2006 Porsche Cayman S 2954 2005 Saleen S7 Twin Turbo 2950 2005 Volkswagen GTI 1.8T 2934 2006 Volkswagen GTI 1.8T 2934 2005 Saturn ION Red Line Quad Coupe 2933 2006 Saturn ION Red Line Quad Coupe 2933 2005 BMW Z4 Roadster 2.5i 2932 2005 Scion tC Sport Coupe 2905 2006 Scion tC Sport Coupe 2905 2006 Honda Civic Si 6-Spd MT 2877 2006 Honda Civic Si 6-Spd MT w/ Nav 2877 2006 Honda Civic Si 6-Spd MT w/ Nav and Performance Tires 2877 2006 Honda Civic Si 6-Spd MT w/ Performance Tires 2877 2006 Pontiac Solstice Roadster 2860 2007 Saturn SKY Convertible 2860 2005 Porsche Boxster Convertible 2855 2006 Honda S2000 6-Spd MT 2855 2006 Porsche Boxster Convertible 2855 2005 MINI Cooper S Convertible 2844 2006 MINI Cooper S Convertible 2844 2006 Acura RSX Type-S 6-Spd MT w/ Leather 2840 2005 Honda S2000 6-Spd MT 2835 2005 Volkswagen New Beetle GLS 1.8T 2820 2005 Acura RSX 5-Spd AT 2809 2005 Acura RSX 5-Spd AT w/ Leather 2809 2006 Acura RSX 5-Spd AT 2809 2006 Acura RSX 5-Spd AT w/ Leather 2809 2005 Honda Civic Si 5-Spd MT w/ Front Side Airbags 2786 2005 Honda Civic Si 5-Spd MT 2778 2005 Acura RSX Type-S 6-Spd MT w/ Leather 2769 2006 Saleen S7 Twin Turbo 2750 2005 Acura RSX 5-Spd MT 2734 2005 Acura RSX 5-Spd MT w/ Leather 2734 2006 Acura RSX 5-Spd MT 2734 2006 Acura RSX 5-Spd MT w/ Leather 2734 2005 MINI Cooper S 2679 2006 MINI Cooper S 2679 2005 Mazda MAZDASPEED MX-5 MIATA 2529 2005 Toyota Celica GTS 2500 2006 Morgan Aero 8 Convertible 2500 2006 Mazda MX-5 3rd Generation Limited 2498 2006 Mazda MX-5 Grand Touring 2498 2006 Mazda MX-5 Sport 2498 2005 Morgan Aero 8 Convertible 2496 2006 Mazda MX-5 Base 2474 2006 Mazda MX-5 Touring 2474 2005 Mazda MX-5 Miata Cloth 2447 2005 Mazda MX-5 Miata LS 2447 2006 Mazda MX-5 Club Spec 2441 2005 Toyota Celica GT 2425 2005 Toyota MR2 Spyder Convertible 2195 2006 Lotus Elise Convertible 1984 2005 Lotus Elise Convertible 1975 Then consider that cars are much heavier now than they once were, it was probably pretty tought to find a Japanese cars much over 3000lbs just a decade ago. I know my big ole Maxima with a V6 weighed less than 3000lbs. Even sedans like the Evo and WRX/STI with heavy AWD systems and close to 300hp weighed less than 3000lbs not long ago. |
Interesting. A few points;
Can you imagine the size of the list of cars and trucks that are lighter than your Evo? These are manufacturer listed curb weights, most not based in reality. A fairer comparison that would have REALLY shrunk your list; find me rear wheel drive 4 seaters that are lighter than the 8. You really are a stats jockey. |
^^^^Ike, why is your list sooooooo short? :hahano:
Just for comparison sake here's a few number that I think compare more directly: Nissan 350Z 3339lbs, Infiniti G35 3505lbs, BMW 3 series 3560, Mitsu EVO 3219. All in all the RX8 holds its own when it comes to weight. All the vehicles mentioned are RWD or AWD. |
or fwd.
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i read that whole list.
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There are no RWD or AWD 4-seaters sold in the US that are lighter than the RX-8. Believe me, I've checked. In fact, there are no decently affordable RWD or AWD cars with a solid roof that is lighter than the RX-8 sold in the US. Also, I'm aware taking weight off the car is a difficult proposition. I plan to just reduce the unsprung weight by about 40 pounds and call it a day, maybe save another few pounds with a seat or catback. However, I don't have and can't justify throwing money at the car just to make it that much lighter.
By the way Ike, isn't this method sort of inflating the list? 2005 Toyota Prius 4-Door Liftback 2890 2006 Toyota Prius 4-Door Liftback 2890 |
ike...i'm scared :Freak_ani
i'd like to think that you were able to cut and paste all that off a website...otherwise i'm frightened at the infinite lengths of yur powers. :scared: |
The car is plenty light enough in the twisties. Downshifting the car on a sweeper of an expressway onramp will not leave you begging for less weight as you try to wipe the silly ass grin off your face. It could use a stiffer suspension though.
The illusion of too much weight only hits you when you're stoplight dragracing. The car doesn't need less weight, it needs ... more torque! :hahano: Sorry, someone had to say it! The only RWD 4-seater sports car I can think of that comes close to the weight of an RX-8 is a 911. Even with backseat accomodations bordering on usless compared to an RX-8, two less doors, and no driveshaft, the 911 still weighs more. Granted, it also produces about 100 more horsepower, but if you figure you could get three RX-8s for the price of a 911, that's roughly 705 HP vs 325 (fuzzy and illogical math, I know). P.S. - Wider is not better. Please don't call the Pontiac Grand Am a "sports car". :mdrmed: |
Originally Posted by JinbaIttai
The car is plenty light enough in the twisties. Downshifting the car on a sweeper of an expressway onramp will not leave you begging for less weight as you try to wipe the silly ass grin off your face. It could use a stiffer suspension though.
The illusion of too much weight only hits you when you're stoplight dragracing. The car doesn't need less weight, it needs ... more torque! :hahano: Sorry, someone had to say it! The only RWD 4-seater sports car I can think of that comes close to the weight of an RX-8 is a 911. Even with backseat accomodations bordering on usless compared to an RX-8, two less doors, and no driveshaft, the 911 still weighs more. Granted, it also produces about 100 more horsepower, but if you figure you could get three RX-8s for the price of a 911, that's roughly 705 HP vs 325 (fuzzy and illogical math, I know). P.S. - Wider is not better. Please don't call the Pontiac Grand Am a "sports car". :mdrmed: |
If the 8 was around 1250-1300 kg, that I would call it light in comparison with other sportscar and the lack of torque wouldn't be that much of an issue anymore.
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Look, someone made the statement that the RX-8 was the lightest 4 seater, which isn't true by any stretch of the imagination. I copied and pasted that list to show those that asked which cars are lighter, nothing more nothing less. I find the list rather interesting, I wish I could find one that went back 10 or so years.
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Originally Posted by 9291150
Interesting. A few points;
Can you imagine the size of the list of cars and trucks that are lighter than your Evo? These are manufacturer listed curb weights, most not based in reality. A fairer comparison that would have REALLY shrunk your list; find me rear wheel drive 4 seaters that are lighter than the 8. You really are a stats jockey. Yes, it would be a bigger list of cars that were lighter than my Evo, thank you for pointing that out Einstein. You want your "fair comparison" then go make it, why don't you just reduce the criteria to cars with rotary engines. I think you could probably swing that list, or you could lick my sweaty balls. Your call! |
Sweet man you used to have a GC chassis subby? I really wanted to get one and do an ej255 swap or something but in reality.. it's nice to get a car thats already put together :) . The 8 only weighs like 200 lbs more than your last car though right (or did i f' the numbers in my head up again)? Anyways.. You can drop like 30 pounds off a spot in front and far above the front axle by getting a new battery. Also you can definatly free up some rotational inertia by getting some light 17's on it and maybe a new flywheel. Other than that I'd have to say it would be difficult to REALLY put the 8 on a diet. I mean it comes with friggen goop for a flat, lol.
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The GC8 was okay, but very far from the SE3P in terms of driving enjoyment. The engine was certainly nothing to write home about, for me it just redlined way too low, and though the handling was quite predictable, the brakes were horrible and the shifter quite diabolical.
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Originally Posted by yiksing
If the 8 was around 1250-1300 kg, that I would call it light in comparison with other sportscar and the lack of torque wouldn't be that much of an issue anymore.
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Originally Posted by Ike
2006 Mazda MAZDA6 i Sports Sedan 3091 2006 Mazda MAZDA6 i Sports Sedan Sport Model 3091 2005 Nissan Altima 2.5 S 3041 2006 Nissan Altima 2.5 S 3041 2005 Nissan Altima 2.5 3001 2006 Nissan Altima 2.5 3001 2005 Volkswagen Golf GLS 1.9 TDI 2972 2006 Volkswagen Golf GLS 1.9 TDI 2972 2005 Volkswagen Jetta Sedan GLS 2.0L 2934 2005 Volkswagen Jetta Sedan GLS 2.0L PZEV 2934 2005 Volkswagen Golf GLS 2.0 2897 2006 Volkswagen Golf GLS 2.0 2897 2005 Volkswagen Jetta Sedan GL 2.0L 2895 2005 Volkswagen Jetta Sedan GL 2.0L PZEV 2895 2005 Toyota Prius 4-Door Liftback 2890 2006 Toyota Prius 4-Door Liftback 2890 2006 Honda Civic Hybrid CVT AT-PZEV 2869 2006 Honda Civic Hybrid CVT AT-PZEV w/ Navigation System 2869 2005 Suzuki Aerio Sedan LX AWD 2859 2006 Suzuki Aerio Sedan Base AWD 2859 2006 Suzuki Aerio Sedan Premium AWD 2859 2005 Volkswagen Golf GL 2.0 Sedan 2857 2006 Volkswagen Golf GL 2.0 Sedan 2857 2005 Kia Spectra5 Base 2844 2006 Kia Spectra5 Base 2844 2005 Kia Spectra EX 2826 2005 Kia Spectra SX 2826 2005 Mazda MAZDA3 SP23 5-Door 2826 2005 Mazda MAZDA3 s 5-Door 2826 2006 Honda Civic Sedan EX 5-Spd AT 2804 2006 Honda Civic Sedan EX 5-Spd AT w/ Navigation System 2804 2006 Hyundai Elantra GLS 4-Door 2784 2006 Hyundai Elantra GLS 5-Door 2784 2006 Hyundai Elantra GT 5-Door 2784 2005 Saturn ION 3 Sedan 2772 2006 Saturn ION 3 Sedan Manual 2772 2005 Mazda MAZDA3 SP23 4-Door 2762 2005 Mazda MAZDA3 s 4-Door 2762 2006 Mazda MAZDA3 s 4-Door 2762 2006 Mazda MAZDA3 s Grand Touring 4-Door 2762 2006 Mazda MAZDA3 s Touring 4-Door 2762 2005 Nissan Sentra SE-R 2761 2006 Nissan Sentra SE-R 2761 2006 Mitsubishi Lancer ES 2745 2006 Mitsubishi Lancer OZ-Rally 2745 2006 Honda Civic Sedan EX 5-Spd MT 2740 2006 Honda Civic Sedan EX 5-Spd MT w/ Navigation System 2740 2005 Suzuki Reno LX 2739 2005 Suzuki Reno S 2739 2006 Suzuki Reno Base 2739 2006 Suzuki Reno Convenience 2739 2006 Suzuki Reno Premium 2739 2005 Nissan Sentra SE-R Spec V 2710 2006 Nissan Sentra SE-R Spec V 2710 2005 Suzuki Forenza LX 2701 2005 Suzuki Forenza S 2701 2005 Kia Spectra LX 2701 2006 Kia Spectra EX 2701 2006 Kia Spectra SX 2701 2006 Suzuki Forenza Base 2701 2006 Suzuki Forenza Premium 2701 2005 Mazda MAZDA3 i 4-Door 2696 2006 Mazda MAZDA3 i 4-Door 2696 2006 Mazda MAZDA3 i Touring 4-Door 2696 2005 Chevrolet Cavalier LS Sedan 2676 2005 Chevrolet Cavalier Sedan 2676 2005 Toyota Corolla XRS 2670 2006 Toyota Corolla XRS 2670 2005 Honda Civic Sedan EX 4-Spd AT 2668 2005 Honda Civic Sedan EX 4-Spd AT w/ Front Side Airbags 2668 2005 Honda Civic Sedan EX SE 4-Spd AT 2668 2005 Suzuki Aerio Sedan LX 2661 2005 Suzuki Aerio Sedan S 2661 2006 Suzuki Aerio Sedan Base 2661 2006 Suzuki Aerio Sedan Premium 2661 2005 Hyundai Elantra GLS 4-Door 2635 2005 Hyundai Elantra GLS 5-Door 2635 2005 Hyundai Elantra GT 4-Door 2635 2005 Hyundai Elantra GT 5-Door 2635 2005 Honda Civic Sedan EX 5-Spd MT 2612 2005 Honda Civic Sedan EX 5-Spd MT w/ Front Side Airbags 2612 2005 Honda Civic Sedan EX SE 5-Spd MT 2612 2005 Honda Civic Sedan LX 4-Spd AT 2606 2005 Honda Civic Sedan LX 4-Spd AT w/ Front Side Airbags 2606 2005 Honda Civic Sedan LX SE 4-Spd AT 2606 2005 Honda Civic Sedan LX 5-Spd MT 2560 2005 Honda Civic Sedan LX 5-Spd MT w/ Front Side Airbags 2560 2005 Honda Civic Sedan LX SE 5-Spd MT 2560 2005 Toyota Corolla LE 2550 2005 Toyota Corolla S 2550 2006 Toyota Corolla LE 2550 2006 Toyota Corolla S 2550 2005 Honda Civic Sedan VP 4-Spd AT 2544 2005 Honda Civic Sedan VP 4-Spd AT w/ Front Side Airbags 2544 2005 Toyota Corolla CE 2530 2006 Toyota Corolla CE 2530 2005 Nissan Sentra 1.8 2513 2006 Nissan Sentra 1.8 2513 2005 Honda Civic Sedan DX 5-Spd MT 2449 2005 Honda Civic Sedan DX 5-Spd MT w/ Front Side Airbags 2449 2005 Chevrolet Aveo LT Sedan 2376 2006 Chevrolet Aveo LT Sedan 2376 2005 Chevrolet Aveo LS Sedan 2365 2005 Chevrolet Aveo Special Value Sedan 2365 2006 Chevrolet Aveo LS Sedan 2365 2006 Chevrolet Aveo Special Value Sedan 2365 2006 Kia Rio Base 2365 2006 Kia Rio LX Sedan 2365 2005 Scion xA 5-Door Hatch Back 2340 2006 Scion xA 5-Door Hatch Back 2340 2007 Toyota Yaris S 2293 2007 Toyota Yaris Sedan 2293 2006 Honda Accord Coupe EX 5-Spd MT 3097 2006 Honda Accord Coupe EX 5-Spd MT w/ Leather and XM Radio 3097 2006 Honda Accord Coupe EX 5-Spd MT w/ Leather/ Nav/ XM Radio 3097 2005 Pontiac Grand Am GT Coupe 3091 2005 Pontiac Grand Am GT1 Coupe 3091 2005 Porsche 911 Carrera Base 3075 2006 Porsche 911 Carrera Coupe 3075 2005 Honda Accord Coupe LX 5-Spd AT 3060 2005 Honda Accord Coupe LX SE 5-Spd AT 3060 2005 Honda Accord Coupe EX 5-Spd MT 3047 2005 Honda Accord Coupe EX 5-Spd MT w/ Leather and XM Radio 3047 2005 Honda Accord Coupe EX 5-Spd MT w/ Leather/ Nav/ XM Radio 3047 2005 Honda Accord Coupe LX 5-Spd MT 2994 2005 Honda Accord Coupe LX SE 5-Spd MT 2994 2005 Chevrolet Cobalt Coupe 2991 2005 Chevrolet Cobalt LS Coupe 2991 2005 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Supercharged Coupe 2991 2006 Chevrolet Cobalt LS Coupe 2991 2006 Chevrolet Cobalt LT Coupe 2991 2006 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Supercharged Coupe 2991 2005 Audi TT 180 Coupe FrontTrak 2987 2006 Audi TT 180 Coupe FrontTrak 2987 2005 Volkswagen GTI 1.8T 2934 2006 Volkswagen GTI 1.8T 2934 2005 Saturn ION Red Line Quad Coupe 2933 2006 Saturn ION Red Line Quad Coupe 2933 2005 Scion tC Sport Coupe 2905 2006 Scion tC Sport Coupe 2905 2006 Volkswagen New Beetle 2.5L 2884 2006 Volkswagen New Beetle 2.5L PZEV 2884 2006 Honda Civic Si 6-Spd MT 2877 2006 Honda Civic Si 6-Spd MT w/ Nav 2877 2006 Honda Civic Si 6-Spd MT w/ Nav and Performance Tires 2877 2006 Honda Civic Si 6-Spd MT w/ Performance Tires 2877 2005 Acura RSX 5-Spd AT 2809 2005 Acura RSX 5-Spd AT w/ Leather 2809 2006 Acura RSX 5-Spd AT 2809 2006 Acura RSX 5-Spd AT w/ Leather 2809 2005 Saturn ION 2 Quad Coupe 2784 2006 Saturn ION 2 Quad Coupe Manual 2784 2005 Pontiac Sunfire Coupe 2771 2005 Pontiac Sunfire Coupe w/1SV 2771 2006 Honda Civic Coupe EX 5-Spd AT 2767 2006 Honda Civic Coupe EX 5-Spd AT w/ Navigation System 2767 2005 Volkswagen New Beetle GL 2.0L 2743 2005 Volkswagen New Beetle GLS 2.0L 2743 2005 Acura RSX 5-Spd MT 2734 2005 Acura RSX 5-Spd MT w/ Leather 2734 2006 Acura RSX 5-Spd MT 2734 2006 Acura RSX 5-Spd MT w/ Leather 2734 2006 Honda Civic Coupe EX 5-Spd MT 2701 2006 Honda Civic Coupe EX 5-Spd MT w/ Navigation System 2701 2005 MINI Cooper S 2679 2006 MINI Cooper S 2679 2005 Honda Civic Coupe EX 4-Spd AT 2657 2005 Honda Civic Coupe EX 4-Spd AT w/ Front Side Airbags 2657 2005 Honda Civic Coupe EX SE 4-Spd AT 2657 2005 Chevrolet Cavalier Coupe 2617 2005 Chevrolet Cavalier Coupe w/1SV 2617 2005 Chevrolet Cavalier LS Coupe 2617 2005 Honda Civic Coupe EX 5-Spd MT 2597 2005 Honda Civic Coupe EX 5-Spd MT w/ Front Side Airbags 2597 2005 Honda Civic Coupe EX SE 5-Spd MT 2597 2005 Honda Civic Coupe LX 4-Spd AT 2588 2005 Honda Civic Coupe LX 4-Spd AT w/ Front Side Airbags 2588 2005 Honda Civic Coupe LX SE 4-Spd AT 2588 2005 Honda Civic Coupe LX 5-Spd MT 2538 2005 Honda Civic Coupe LX 5-Spd MT w/ Front Side Airbags 2538 2005 Honda Civic Coupe LX SE 5-Spd MT 2538 2005 MINI Cooper Base 2524 2006 MINI Cooper Base 2524 2005 Honda Civic Coupe HX CVT 2522 2005 Honda Civic Coupe HX CVT w/ Front Side Airbags 2522 2005 Honda Civic Coupe VP 4-Spd AT 2513 2005 Honda Civic Coupe VP 4-Spd AT w/ Front Side Airbags 2513 2005 Honda Civic Coupe VP 5-Spd MT 2456 2005 Honda Civic Coupe VP 5-Spd MT w/ Front Side Airbags 2456 2005 Honda Civic Coupe HX 5-Spd MT 2441 2005 Honda Civic Coupe HX 5-Spd MT w/ Front Side Airbags 2441 2005 Hyundai Accent GLS 3-Door 2280 2005 Hyundai Accent GT 3-Door 2280 2005 Honda Insight CVT w/ AC 1975 2006 Honda Insight CVT w/ AC 1975 2005 Honda Insight 5-Spd MT w/ AC 1881 2006 Honda Insight 5-Spd MT w/ AC 1881 2005 Honda Insight 5-Spd MT 1850 2006 Honda Insight 5-Spd MT 1850 2005 Pontiac Grand Am GT Coupe 3091 2005 Pontiac Grand Am GT1 Coupe 3091 2005 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Supercharged Coupe 2991 2006 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Supercharged Coupe 2991 2005 Audi TT 180 Coupe FrontTrak 2987 2006 Audi TT 180 Coupe FrontTrak 2987 2006 Hyundai Tiburon GT 2969 2006 Hyundai Tiburon GT LTD 2969 2005 Porsche Boxster S 2965 2006 Porsche Boxster S 2965 2005 Volkswagen GTI 1.8T 2934 2006 Volkswagen GTI 1.8T 2934 2005 Saturn ION Red Line Quad Coupe 2933 2006 Saturn ION Red Line Quad Coupe 2933 2005 Scion tC Sport Coupe 2905 2006 Scion tC Sport Coupe 2905 2006 Honda Civic Si 6-Spd MT 2877 2006 Honda Civic Si 6-Spd MT w/ Nav 2877 2006 Honda Civic Si 6-Spd MT w/ Nav and Performance Tires 2877 2006 Honda Civic Si 6-Spd MT w/ Performance Tires 2877 2005 MINI Cooper S Convertible 2844 2006 MINI Cooper S Convertible 2844 2005 Acura RSX 5-Spd AT 2809 2005 Acura RSX 5-Spd AT w/ Leather 2809 2006 Acura RSX 5-Spd AT 2809 2006 Acura RSX 5-Spd AT w/ Leather 2809 2005 Acura RSX 5-Spd MT 2734 2005 Acura RSX 5-Spd MT w/ Leather 2734 2006 Acura RSX 5-Spd MT 2734 2006 Acura RSX 5-Spd MT w/ Leather 2734 2005 MINI Cooper S 2679 2006 MINI Cooper S 2679 2006 Mazda MX-5 Grand Touring 2498 2006 Mazda MX-5 Sport 2498 2006 Mazda MX-5 Base 2474 2006 Mazda MX-5 Touring 2474 2005 Mazda MX-5 Miata Cloth 2447 2005 Mazda MX-5 Miata LS 2447 |
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Originally Posted by Ike
you could lick my sweaty balls. Your call!
Otherwise, being called a moron from a guy who runs up thousands of posts on a site of a car he constantly criticizes is oddly amusing. Kinda like your sweaty balls problem. Boxers maybe? |
Originally Posted by 9291150
You'd like that wouldn't you? Probably would be the most action you got in years.
Otherwise, being called a moron from a guy who runs up thousands of posts on a site of a car he constantly criticizes is oddly amusing. Kinda like your sweaty balls problem. Boxers maybe? |
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Originally Posted by Ike
I don't comlain about this site, I love this site and many of the people on it. It's you and your fanboi brigade that I don't like.
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Originally Posted by missinmahseven
Just parked mine after getting lunch. :D:
They are like jets, and they kinda sound like it, drive like it, and drink gas like it. As for the c-pillar, look at the Rx-7 (SA/FB, 1st-gen) and it'll all be clear.. Welcome to the rotary madness.. there is no cure. Well, maybe a quad-cam italian-made twelve-banger, but that's a touch extreme, money-wise... ;) |
Originally Posted by 9291150
You'd like that wouldn't you? Probably would be the most action you got in years.
Otherwise, being called a moron from a guy who runs up thousands of posts on a site of a car he constantly criticizes is oddly amusing. Kinda like your sweaty balls problem. Boxers maybe? |
I'm into day three of my new RX8 euphoria. And here's a little secret for appreciating ALL that the RX8 has to offer. Drive a Jeep Wrangler with 33" tires for six years before buying your 8. The fuel economy of the 8 is absolutely wonderful by comparison!
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Originally Posted by davedb62
I'm into day three of my new RX8 euphoria. And here's a little secret for appreciating ALL that the RX8 has to offer. Drive a Jeep Wrangler with 33" tires for six years before buying your 8. The fuel economy of the 8 is absolutely wonderful by comparison!
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