Auzoom, I wasn't referring to you at all, nor was I singling anybody out, see? Also, please note the smiley. Just having a little fun. Please take it easy, and don't take it personally.

On top of that, as you pointed out, your post was actually on-topic!

Great, now you've got me :offtopic:, and it's my thread.

:) :) :)

I'm not sure why every alternative-fuel vehicle post turns into a heated debate about the value of alternative fuels. My perspective is much more simplistic - I just find automotive innovation fascinating. If the performance is there as well, I put my money where my mouth is.

My first new car was a 93 Prelude VTEC, which made 190 HP from a NA 2.2L I4. Then I bought a 97 Type R, which made 195 HP from a 1.8L, and was the highest HP/L of any factory NA vehicle (at the time).

Now we've got the RX-8 (front-mount, mid-engine, highest horsepower factory NA rotary ever), the STI (300 HP from a factory turbo 4, don't believe that's been done before), and the Nissan Murano (highest HP/torque ever with a CVT).

I like automotive innovation, and I applaud Mazda for taking the risks, and going to the front-of-the-line on some of the new stuff.

Dude, I responded to you with a joke -- get over it. Take it off topic if you want. Talk about alternative fuels all you want. I'm going to continue to point out funny things when I think of them and pointless things when I read them. That's just how it goes.

Round 3 - FIGHT

I get Liu Kang!

Scorpion totally pwnz teh big 1

Well I am totally out of arguments then (Damn it and I was having so much fun) If everyone was joking then I will get off my soap box and crawl back under my rock

But seriously, did you hear about the nuclear powered RX-8??? :-P Liu Kang wins.

Seriously, though, I really do think that everybody needs to switch to alternative fuels as quickly as humanly possible. The rewards would be overwhelming: if everybody would switch to alternative fuels, there would be SO much more gasoline around for ME! (with apologies to Dogbert)