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Vasichko 06-06-2008 09:25 PM

Fan on after shut down, how long?
 
Just wondering how long do your fans run after shut down?

Should I sit in the car and let it idle a bit before shutting it off?

expo1 06-06-2008 09:36 PM

It takes as long as it takes. Let the car decide.

Brettus 06-06-2008 09:39 PM


Originally Posted by expo1 (Post 2498777)
It takes as long as it takes. Let the car decide.

LOL - nice answer Expo

mmats69 06-06-2008 10:53 PM

+1. unless its staying on for hours at a time, let it do what it is meant to do

Razz1 06-06-2008 11:29 PM

10 minutes.

04RX8man 06-06-2008 11:38 PM

it will shut off when the motor is cool enough just let it go i let mine go and just go in the apt...if you go out like 2 hours late and it's still on then i would go to a dealer but if it's like a couple minutes you're cool

VolcomStoneX 06-06-2008 11:41 PM

haha, i remember, i was like WTF???? when this first happen, i love my 8

Easy_E1 06-06-2008 11:49 PM

Well down here in the desert it can run for a long time. I park in the garage and it seems like an eternity before it shuts off. 10+ minutes on a regular basis.

VolcomStoneX 06-06-2008 11:51 PM

^^ same here, its always FKN hot in texas....

juikster 06-07-2008 03:18 AM

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Thats why I did like others did in the forum and went to an oversized aftermarket radiator, went as far as drilling relief holes in the tsat to get the needed water flow thats obviously killing engines time and time again from overheating. wirekit the fans to energize together helps, the hot climate here on the gulf coast sometimes gets brutal unforgiving, thats why I have a backup plan to releive the heat....CO2 cannistered shorts that deploy to cool my ass. heh it works........

Spinning Sushi 06-07-2008 03:45 AM

Well, if you don't like the fan staying on when you shut off your car, go back, turn the ignition to ON (don't start the car) and back off, it'll stop the fan from running.

Socr8tes 06-07-2008 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by Renesis SE3P (Post 2499095)
Well, if you don't like the fan staying on when you shut off your car, go back, turn the ignition to ON (don't start the car) and back off, it'll stop the fan from running.

Not recommended. The fans come on for a reason. Just let them do their job.

fahrfegneugen 06-07-2008 10:29 AM

I have yet to have the fan stay on it has been so cold this year... Some cars do this a lot and other's don't. Our Honda did it like a maniac and our Subaru never does it.

Renesis07 06-07-2008 12:04 PM

lol, there should be a sticky about this. Every person new to the 8 freaks out when that fan comes on. Its louder than when the car is running lol.

fahrfegneugen 06-07-2008 12:30 PM

I freaked out more when Jiffy Lube did my oil and the differential was dripping all over my driveway. They didn't clean up the mess they left behind, I ended up going to the dealer about it too...

New Yorker 06-07-2008 01:23 PM

It's not as unusual as you may think. Occasionally the fan on my Miata—and on my '02 VW GTI—would stay on for a long time, too.

nt5k 06-07-2008 01:46 PM

Doesn't every car made in the last 20 years do this already?

Socket7 06-07-2008 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by fahrfegneugen (Post 2499369)
I freaked out more when Jiffy Lube did my oil and the differential was dripping all over my driveway. They didn't clean up the mess they left behind, I ended up going to the dealer about it too...

I freaked out when you said you took an 8 to jiffy lube period. :uhh:

Let the fans run they'll turn off. I wouldn't worry until the day they actually do drain your battery and you have to push start it. then I'd get a new battery.

DOMINION 06-07-2008 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by Easy_E1 (Post 2498916)
Well down here in the desert it can run for a long time. I park in the garage and it seems like an eternity before it shuts off. 10+ minutes on a regular basis.

Meh Mine will run for a few minutes :smoker:

Brettus 06-07-2008 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by Socr8tes (Post 2499237)
Not recommended. The fans come on for a reason. Just let them do their job.

the reason they stay on is because there is no water flow past the sensor when the engine is off - not an issue to turn the fans off that way if it annoys you .....

fahrfegneugen 06-08-2008 01:48 AM


Originally Posted by Socket7 (Post 2499453)
I freaked out when you said you took an 8 to jiffy lube period. :uhh:

Don't ask, I was 120 mi from home and... :dunno:

boanjangnararmine 06-08-2008 02:11 AM

with the mazsport fan mod, it turns on more often while driving so when i shut off it doesnt need to stay on for too long. usually less than 30 seconds even after hard driving.

auzoom 06-08-2008 03:54 AM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 2499531)
the reason they stay on is because there is no water flow past the sensor when the engine is off - not an issue to turn the fans off that way if it annoys you .....

It was my understanding that the water pump doesnt function if the car is off, therefore the fans coming on is pointless anyway. For this reason, I tend to run my car for a min or so after a hard run, and if I hear my fans on after I switch the car off, I turn it back on. Probably pointless :dunno:

Huey52 06-08-2008 08:53 AM

Sitting there idling is just defeating the purpose. As everyone else has said, jut let it do its job - it knows when to shut off.

And yes, most radiator fans have been working this way since the fan belt went the way of the Dodo.

btw: my wife's iMac fan was running at high speed for a long time last night (cool indoor ambient despite our heat wave at the moment), but a simple SMC (ROM) reset did the trick. Horse of a different feather, but related.

kvndoom 06-08-2008 12:22 PM

Yesterday was the first time I heard mine run. Then again, it did set a new record here yesterday (101, ugh!). Kinda funny because I had just read this thread on Friday. Yeah, it's loud, almost as loud as the engine! Doesn't bother me; just funny to hear.

Myriad 06-08-2008 05:39 PM

I've had mine come on once or twice for twenty seconds to a minute or so...never a long period, but I live in PA.

Socr8tes 06-08-2008 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 2499531)
the reason they stay on is because there is no water flow past the sensor when the engine is off - not an issue to turn the fans off that way if it annoys you .....

Umm, not quite. If it weren't performing a function, it wouldn't turn on. Power to the fan would simply be cut when you turn the ignition off. And whoever said that it doesn't do anything since the pump isn't running is wrong too. The running fan is, in fact, performing a cooling function. Turn it off at your own risk.

Brettus 06-08-2008 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by Socr8tes (Post 2500664)
Umm, not quite. If it weren't performing a function, it wouldn't turn on. Power to the fan would simply be cut when you turn the ignition off. And whoever said that it doesn't do anything since the pump isn't running is wrong too. The running fan is, in fact, performing a cooling function. Turn it off at your own risk.

ooooo i'm really worried my motor will overheat when it is not running :lol:

Huey52 06-09-2008 02:17 PM

Wow, that's one of the more ignorant comments I've read around here.


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 2500673)
ooooo i'm really worried my motor will overheat when it is not running :lol:


Socket7 06-09-2008 02:49 PM

Just because your engine isn't pumping water doesn't mean that you wont get some amount of circulation due to convection. Furthermore creating a temperature differential in the radiator will lower core temperatures as the entire cooling system will always seek thermal equilibrium. It just won't happen as fast as if the water was circulating.

Engineers put a lot of thought into designing this engine, and even then many of their systems seem to underestimate the demands of the engine. If the engineers thought the cooling fans were required after the engine is shut off, do you really want to risk shutting them off, knowing their penchant for under-engineering things rather then over-engineering them? If anything I'd want to mod them to come on earlier and stay on longer.

Brettus 06-09-2008 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by Huey52 (Post 2501748)
Wow, that's one of the more ignorant comments I've read around here.

perhaps you are too young to remember that once upon a time the fan was direct drive off the front of the motor . All the manufacturers must have changed to electric to stop them all overheating while not running :lol:

Seriously though lets think about why Mazda may have designed the system this way - I believe it could be to aid in certain situations when an engine is turned off for only a few minutes - ie going into the store to pick up the paper . In that situation there would be some benefit in leaving the fans on so that any heat soak in the engine will be rapidly cooled by the cooler radiator water upon restarting .
Anybody else have any decent suggestion other than the "Mazda did it that way so it must be right" BS ?

Detrich 06-09-2008 04:41 PM

15 minutes on a hot summer day for me.

risky business 06-09-2008 10:21 PM

hehe when i first bought the car and got home and this happend i was like wtf? then i checked to see if the car was still on. lol

Huey52 06-10-2008 08:39 AM

Oh you flatterer, I'm well old enough to have changed fan belts (when they were really fan belts).

Not so applicable to our [present] 8's, but there is some fuel injector vapor-lock prevention advantage to continuing to flow cooling air around the engine compartment after engine shut down on very warm days.

Otherwise as you cite, and I stand corrected in that you appear far from ignorant on the subject.


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 2501991)
perhaps you are too young to remember that once upon a time the fan was direct drive off the front of the motor . All the manufacturers must have changed to electric to stop them all overheating while not running :lol:

Seriously though lets think about why Mazda may have designed the system this way - I believe it could be to aid in certain situations when an engine is turned off for only a few minutes - ie going into the store to pick up the paper . In that situation there would be some benefit in leaving the fans on so that any heat soak in the engine will be rapidly cooled by the cooler radiator water upon restarting .
Anybody else have any decent suggestion other than the "Mazda did it that way so it must be right" BS ?


wankelhead 06-10-2008 11:31 AM

Who doesn't like a fan when they're hot, anyone, anyone? Leave the fan on, don't torture your baby :nono: !

Jethro Tull 06-10-2008 11:39 AM

Fan run-on time can be decreased if you turn off the A/C at least four minutes before you turn off the car. Keep the cabin fan running, but shut off the compressor with the A/C button. This alone will let the engine cool enough before shutdown to trim a few minutes off the time.

delhi 06-10-2008 11:40 AM

The 8 is smarter than most owners.... let it does what it wants.

Huey52 06-10-2008 12:14 PM

Or you can turn your heat up full on a hot day JT. :)

Ol' days (pre-auto computers) we used to pride ourselves on being able to limp home regardless the malady. I've actually used the heater to offset overheating for a short duration.

Keep in mind that there's no such thing as cold - only an absense of heat. Think moving heat from one place to another. That's all a/c and radiators really do.


Originally Posted by Jethro Tull (Post 2503223)
Fan run-on time can be decreased if you turn off the A/C at least four minutes before you turn off the car. Keep the cabin fan running, but shut off the compressor with the A/C button. This alone will let the engine cool enough before shutdown to trim a few minutes off the time.



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