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Dustin4u 03-06-2004 04:11 PM

explain DSC and the TCS in kiddie language!
 
Can someone explain the Dynamic Stability control and the traction control system in "stupid" to me.

I'm in Canada and wondering if it will greatly help me in the winter time.
My salesmen told me, its not that good of a feature and most drivers keep it off.

Can someone explain everything in kiddie and will it help in 2 feet of snow :)

93rdcurrent 03-06-2004 04:25 PM

Boy nothing will help an RX-8 in two feet of snow besides a ridiculous lift kit. If the car bottoms out nothing will help. The DSC/TC operates by measuring wheel slippage. When the system detects the wheels slipping it decides via a pretty sophisiticated computer whether to use the ABS on the slipping wheels, to cut back on the throttle, or a combination of the two. I drove all winter in my baby and I will say that when I was out having fun sliding in corners the DSC/TC took some of the "fun" out of my slides so, I had to turn it off to turn up the "fun" factor. When I was driving with my wife or when I was driving on roads with other drivers it was very handy. no complaints from me. If I was planning on auto-xing the car I would have it off since it does slow the car down. For normal everyday driving I leave mine on. If you are thinking about getting the GT package then don't let this be the deciding factor let it be the Bose sound system that is a lot more contriversial.

RX8_GT 03-06-2004 04:38 PM

IMHO for the majority of drivers when "Driving Miss Daisy" the DSC is a great feature - sometimes a little inattention or sudden correction and you're in the ditch without DSC. But for difficult traction or fun - it must be off because it will not allow wheel spin under power.

The GT package has much more than DSC - but it is value as you can turn off DSC when you want to. The car defaults to DSC on when started.

In two feet of snow - the only thing to get is full size SUV. The RX-8 even with the best snows in a narrower width will not cut it.

In Ottawa - you'll have to budget for either snows or garage complete with beater car.

John - Ex-Canuck - Cape Breton

PS In Indiana I got away with very limited winter use and siping stocks. Our winter is basically over until next December - God willing.

jonnyb 03-06-2004 04:58 PM

i have a question about this. when i turn off all traction control by holding down the dsc button for a couple seconds, how can i turn it back on? the only way it would go back on is when i turned the car off then back on.

moRotorMotor 03-06-2004 05:15 PM


Originally posted by 93rdcurrent
If you are thinking about getting the GT package then don't let this be the deciding factor let it be the Bose sound system that is a lot more contriversial.
The Bose w 6 disc in-dash comes standard on all RX-8s in Canada.

Dustin4u 03-06-2004 05:28 PM

Ya, the bose is on the GS and GT here in Canada.

I'm still trying to decide on the GS or GT and its killing me.

I don't care if i get leather or not. I've never had leather so i don't know what i'm missing....or not.

The Xenon lights...i can buy some for $200

Power seats - pointless to me. I'm 5'9 170 I'm comfortable enough without them and don't need crazy movements.

I'm not going to get the moonroof either way since its out of budget.


I was hoping the DSC/TCS would be my deciding factor. But if it doesn't make a world of difference....then GS it is.

Sure the other options for the GT are nice...but not the price jump nice...for me anyways.


ps. the 2 feet of snow was a exageration :)
Yes snowtires a must.

93rdcurrent 03-06-2004 05:55 PM

If there was anything I could get out of in my GT package it would've been the Bose sound system. I planned on aftermarket from the get go. Kinda frustrating since I didn't get the option not to go with stock.

Tony_Montana 03-06-2004 07:02 PM

is there a way to turn off the dsc? and turn it on at choice manual?

Victor E 03-06-2004 07:08 PM

what is so bad about the bose system?

RevRaz 03-06-2004 07:10 PM

I have a DSC on/off switch next to my dash light dimmer switch.

mamccubbin 03-06-2004 07:33 PM

The DSC and TCS made this a great car in Wisconsin's winter. Once the weather gets nice again, it will be turned off.

Dustin4u 03-06-2004 07:51 PM

So it does make a big difference in winter driving?
Yikes, mabye have the spend the cash and get the GT.

jonnyb 03-06-2004 08:36 PM


Originally posted by Victor E
what is so bad about the bose system?

bose products are junky and overprice. most people who arent into car audio dont really notice but those that are hate bose and any factory premium system because for how much they cost you could have a pretty nice aftermarket system.

jax8 03-06-2004 10:43 PM

Tony_m The TC and DSC can be turned off once you start your motor, however they cannot be re-engaged without turning off your engine.

JD32 03-06-2004 11:12 PM

DSC & TCS were great when it snowed here and they help out in the rain also (especially with the stock tires).

RevRaz 03-06-2004 11:29 PM

That must be the TC only, my DSC turns back on just fine.


Originally posted by jax8
Tony_m The TC and DSC can be turned off once you start your motor, however they cannot be re-engaged without turning off your engine.

93rdcurrent 03-07-2004 01:05 AM


Originally posted by RevRaz
That must be the TC only, my DSC turns back on just fine.
If you just hit the button it only turns off the DSC but the TC is still active. In order to turn off the whole system you need to hold the button down for about 5 seconds. Then in order to get the system back on you have to turn the car off and start it up again.

Velocity-8 03-07-2004 08:53 AM


Originally posted by jonnyb
bose products are junky and overprice. most people who arent into car audio dont really notice but those that are hate bose and any factory premium system because for how much they cost you could have a pretty nice aftermarket system.

The saying you hear from most audiophiles.....

"No highs, no lows...it must be Bose"


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