Do you hate speeding tickets?
 

Check this out....


http://www.k40.com/images/pdf/review...%20Article.pdf

If the cops can't read your speed, they're pull you over for having a radar/laser jamming device installed.
Easy solution... just don't speed.

They can't pull u over for a radar, not in KY anywasy

let me put it to you this way as i'm a police officer and that whole tech article/gimmick is a load of crap. when using radar, it is not necessary to obtain a vehicle's speed by concentrating on the front license plate. the radar will pick up the speeding vehicle regardless if it has a front plate or not with no direct aiming necessary.

as far as using the laser unit, a front plate is not necesary either. you can aim at the grille, the headlight, bumper or any other front or rear end compnent and check the vehicle's speed. the laser unit does need to be aimed and is extremely vehicle specific and cannot be used when the patrol car is in motion.

and most importantly, speed limits are set for safety and based on demographics. excessive speeding is extremely dangerous and youself or someone else can be seriously injured or killed because of neglectful driving.

I think police officers have to go through some sort of brainwashing program before they get their badge. I don't know how things are in the US but atleast here the speed limits are WAY too low compared to road standard.

I feel that cops should have their cellphones banned.
Nothing pisses me off more than if I drive the safe "5 over the speed limit" rule and vehicles are passing me like crazy.
Then I see a cop ahead and people slamming on their brakes enough to where you see their front-end dip down.
I drive by wondering how the cop didn't see that only to see the A-hole on his cellphone!!!
And this happened to me THREE TIMES this week!!!

Norway has insane low speed limits. :banghead:

I would agree with both of these statements.

Aw now, come on man, why'd you have to go and do that? You ruined a perfectly honest and factual post with this propaganda. Speaking mostly of rural 2 and 4 lane roads, and interstates...most modern vehicles in good sound mechanical state, with a non-elderly driver, in non-inclement weather, paying due attention to their surroundings and looking ahead at signs/traffic/road conditions, are well capable of going 5-15mph over the posted speed limits in these areas with no negative consequences.

In fact, any accident I have ever been involved in, was in city areas where I was doing at or below the speed limit, but someone else used poor judgement and did something stupid. Barring a lapse in attention, severe mechanical breakdown such as a blowout (improper equipment) or something uncontrollable like a dog or deer in the road, there is little that can happen on the rural roads, yet they seem to be the more heavily enforced ones.

For instance, I made a 19 hour drive across TN/SC/NC yesterday. I never saw a single patrol in the city areas where accidents are likely and traffic heavy. I saw speed traps and patrols out on the MIDDLE OF NOWHERE areas that were flat, wide open, and sparsely travelled. Where do you think more accidents and property damage occur...rural highways or city streets? So why is the enforcement usually backwards then?

Same thing happened to me; I always see police on their phones on the side of the road. I almost never speed (bad experience) but when people fly by me and then I see a P.O. on the side of the road I'm like WTF? Oh it's okay, you're talking on your cell phone.

I seriously wish I could hand out citizens tickets when I see them DRIVING while talking on their cellphone :rant:

Okay, without getting into a discussion about police behavior. The thing you posted, is that a jammer or detector? Because I assume jammer as it is mounted to the car itself, but it does not mention it as a jammer. Besides, why would you want something that doesn't jam lasers? The other stuff radar detectors can pick up 100's of yards away, but lasers are instant and often how people are ticketed.

Cuz they know you will speed on rural highways, So they can give you a ticket, so the government gets more money !

Thats very true everywhere. Take NJ's Palestine(is that how to spell it, forgot) parkway. That road is wow so freaking god damn empty, but hey, 50 mph limit ? and guess what. There are TONS of cops camping there to catch people speed.

Shouldn't they go do something more meaningful ? seriously :(

younger cops use the laptop to check facebook and chat.

and yes i know this for fact.

our tax dollars at work folks.

As long as they aren't handing out bs speeding tickets or stupid stuff like your headlights are too bright, or (this is true of someone on this forum) that their car was "too low."

get on facebook all you want.

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you honestly think an EMERGENCY personnel like an officer should be banned from using cell phones? :banghead:
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True.

However these work really well at letting you know well before hand when a radar unit is being used and work extremely well at shifting the lasers. They can be found on eBay for about $700 and are easy to install yourself if you have tools and a good solid day of time to devote.

Well , next time when u see a cop on his cell phone , haul ass and burn rubber :). Maybe he will let u go hehe.

i can't speed in my car, it's too slow.

Umm... speaking as a former "EMERGENCY personnel"... YES
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No, I will be the one he does happen to pull over.

It's true on some roads, the speed limit is too low.. The express way here in Miami.. 55 mph limit. A 5 lane highway, some parts it goes as low as 45 mph then jumps to 60 mph. I'd like to see the traffic when we all go 45 mph on the highway..

Speed limits are designated for most roads based upon a factor of safety that a typical vehicle can drive under bad weather conditions (likely 10-15% FOS). Realistically, cars can safely navigate at higher speeds (typically, not true in all places, where the speed limit is 75 or so)

However, in certain areas where the speed limit is 55 (NYS highways) the reason the limit is so low was for energy conservation implemented during the gas crisis. Fuel efficiency (especially when the law was implemented) drops severly above 55-60 mph. They just haven't updated the laws with the economic situation....probably based on the income they would lose from raising the limit.

Speed limits are politically based. They *can* be safety based, as in, if there have been numerous crashes on a stretch of highway, lowering the speed limit is one way to potentially reduce them, but at the end of the day, it's a political call, as there is no definitive engineering proof that a lowered speed limit reduces crashes; it's a good assumption based on practice, but it isn't a proven fact.

And as for design speed of the roadways...depends on its classification & purpose. Most interstate designs are most definately NOT designed for 65, 70, or 75 mph. The curves are, but that's another issue entirely...Curve speed design is based off whatever the most common every-day car is...think Honda Civic and Toyota Camry... The design is based on estimated friction of THAT type of vehicle.

And in practice, the suggested speed for a curve, if it's "field tested", means renting a Honda Civic/Toyota Camry (or similiar), putting a fancy smancy hi-tech device like this one and driving the curve at increasing speeds until the fancy indicator gives a particular degree of inclination... AKA: if you have any vehicle nicer than a "typical family/small 4-door car", those recommended speed limit signs mean virtually nothing to you...

Seriously... the design of a highway and the speed limit very rarely have anything to do with one another, and the difference between them gets bigger and bigger the better vehicle you have. Speed limits are political, plain and simple.

Some cops are great and some cops are jerks. One time I got caught going 22 over and weaving between cars and the cop said "nice car, I'll remember what it looks like so don't do it again."

Camping on interstate highways in the middle of nowhere will always be their money maker so don't expect them to stop.

Back on topic... I have the k40 installed in my car since radar detectors and laser diffusers are still legal here. I love it and HIGHLY recommend it to everyone. I've personally tested it with friends who are police officers and the laser diffuser portion worked flawlessly every time... they could not get a speed on my car until i was passing them and the diffuser was past the laser gun. the radar detection works well and if you're in a group of cars. it gives enough warning for you to slow down so the cop when he looks wont think you were the one who was leading the pack. I don't drive like an idiot but like 99% of the rest of us... i speed on the highway when it is safe to do so.

Wow... looks like I really started a debate.... I only posted because i thought it was interesting...

Yeah, you're right. God forbid cops talk on cell phones. And it's not illegal for people to slam on their brakes. So what you want them to do when someone hits their brakes? Stop them on suspicion of speeding? :uhh:

mazdaverx7
and most importantly, speed limits are set for safety and based on demographics. excessive speeding is extremely dangerous and youself or someone else can be seriously injured or killed because of neglectful driving.


You guys might get a kick outta this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1B-Ox0ZmVIU

A bunch of students make a blockade by driving 55 on an Atlanta freeway, the speed limit. They nearly cause several wrecks and the road is almost deserted in front of them. People yell and swerve, funny stuff.

good video.. I hate it when people drive pass me at like 90+ and never get pulled over. but as soon as i hit like 75 a cop magically appears behind me.

Never said it was.

No.. how about stop them for speeding.
IF you bothered to think about what I said, I was doing 5 over the speed limit and they were flying by me... they were speeding.

Please take the time to read before posting anything.
Its sad that people come on here to start fights with each other :icon_no2:

Well if a cop is talking on the phone do you think it's a possibility that person is on the phone for a reason? Don't you talk on the phone for a specific reason? Or is it just cops can't do something because you think it's wrong. Also if a cop is on the phone how do you expect he/she knows you are only doing 5 over? How is the cop to know other are speeding if he/she is on the phone? Don't be upset becaue others in front of you have gotten away with speeding at some time and you were caught once. And who was trying to start a fight? You posted a ridiculous statement. I responded. I'll leave it at that.

police34- Do you really have nothing better to do with your like than attack others on here?
You are a sad sad man :icon_no2:

"Never argue with an idiot; those watch may not be able to tell the difference"

Evidence of the money machine is obvious, as route 81 S changes from VA 55mph to WVA 70 mph(nice), the same road same conditions same level of maintenance same number of lanes.

NJ is the WORST in the 4 yrs I lived there I got 4 nice fat 15mph over tickets, my own fault I know but since Ive been in PA for the last 4 yrs I havent gotten one and I drive faster here usually 80-85 on the hwy. One morning while dark I got left to pass a truck and wound her out a bit to 102mph. I noticed a car behind doing as I just did passing the trucker, after I got right and slowed to 75 I see it was a state trooper :gulp: To my surprise he just cruised by doing about 80. God Im lovin PA no front plates and no tickets yet (I just jinxed myself)

Anyways NJ felt like a police state I would see one every half hour at least you never get comfortable.

You mean you guys DON'T look for the nose of the car dipping as a speeder applies the brakes in response to seeing your patrol car hiding behind the upcoming overpass?

Man. I've been using my E-brake all this time for no reason at all. :lol:



On an empty road, where you'll only kill yourself or a deer, I'm fine with people speeding. your car, your life. It's when other people can possibly become involved where I have a problem.

If you can see any other cars around you, drive the limit. There are 2 ways you can make a road safe. All the cars travel the same speed, or they all have very good lane discipline. Asking for lane discipline from an American goes over about as well as asking an American to speak 2 languages fluently. Since we can't have nice things like lane discipline, we need speed limits.

Speed doesn't kill, Sudden changes in velocity does.

9 times out of 10 the speeding car doesnt see me until its too late. on the highway, by the time a speeding vehicle has seen me, no braking can help as i have obtained and locked their speed in the radar or laser unit. dipping noses are not always indicitive of guilt. most people, even when doing the speed limit, slow down when they see me sitting stationary or moving traffic enforcement.

We are going to that as pc now. More reliable than radar/laser:lol2:

The wonderful jurisDICKtion I live in just gives out photo-radar.

They pay some cop-wanna-be to sit in a truck, with a camera unit about 100 ft away on a wire.

Then they send me pictures of my car going too fast and municipal fines in the mail.

I usually wait till I have three or four before I go downtown and pay 'em.

(Only got two this month, just got back from paying them!)

They can't assess points on my license, because they can't prove it was me.

This system seems to suit both parties - they get lots'o'cash, and I get to drive as fast as I like, even thru school zones.

I know it sounds bad, but it's their system, they're happy with it, and I'm rich enough not to care........

5 over is not really a rule anymore. On freeways it's closer to 11 or more over.

it's well know that holding the phone is not the problem, it's the "virtual conversation"
should the police be banned from using their radios while driving too then? i can't use a laptop while driving, should the police be banned from that too?

emergency personnel are allowed to do things ordinary citizens can simply because it's needed to function. if you're still going to argue, you seriously fail.. especially if you really were a former emergency personnel.

i don't care to argue either, but people who hate on ALL police officers because of the one you saw on the street making a mistake/doing something "stupid"... ridiculous

It's no use. He is too sensitive for a simple debate/disagreement. Hence above

"raises hand"

i know the feeling all to well

The video was amazing too but, same as my comment on youtube, what they did was pretty dangerous. With road rage common place i'm surprised no one got hurt or quite literally run off the road.

in maryland, my commute goes from dc to baltimore for school, 4 times a week this semester. generally traffic goes about 80. i tend to travel about 80-90, i hope im not jinxing myself by saying that. haha. but i still slow down to about 65mph when i see a cop.

i really believe we should revamp the driving schools in the usa, as well as the speed limits. we really should be taking notes from germany. i refuse to accept that we, as americans, cannot follow the same rules of the roads the germans can. we, on a whole, cant be too stupid. it doesnt look too good for us though. their entire transportation infrastructure, from bike paths to trains, is worlds more advanced than ours.

In other fun news i got pulled over 4 seperate times for 4 different things and came away with 4 tickets.

Talking on a cell phone (my MAIN MAIN boss called and i HAD to answer), No front License Plate, Failure to provide PROOF of insurance, and going 70 in a 65 ............

When i got pulled over for 70 in a 65 the cop says to me "i had another cop call me on his cell phone and said you were doing mid 90's but i only clocked you at 70, so i COULD give you a ticket based on his visual estimate but i'll give you this instead" ........ yes i got ticketed for 70 in a 65 .... pure Bullshit

Jammers are illegal here in California, most cops will wait till the absolute LAST MOMENT to blip their radar at you. It won't show up on most detectors or make the owner of the detector think it's a false alarm and continue speeding. We need every advantage we can get, just wish jammers were legal here.

fight it. 70 in 65 will get thrown out...
the rest... well, yeah..

We banned officers from using the cell phone in their cars.

Just goes to show you they are idiots too!

i would say moreso because there are always going to be those people complaining "oh noes, they are acting like they are above the law!" :icon_no2:

they probably weren't banned... more likely discouraged