Dealer overfill by putting the correct amount?
k, so I took my car for an oil change today. bought 5 qt's Castrol GTX 5W20. everything went well untill I checked the oil in front of the service rep. it was about 1/3 - 1/2 of an inch over the H hole on my SII oil stick.
so I asked them how much oil they put into the engine, they showed me whats left in that 5qt jar was about 0.5 qt left, so they put 4.5qt (said 4.6qt in the manual). so then I asked if they could drain the oil out a little, they told me it'll be fine and they will be responsible for any damages. time to do my own oil changes I think.:anger: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- update, my cars been having warm starting problems. I need to crank abit longer to get it started when warm. so I took out the MAF, found oil in my air-intake, that explains why I could smell burning oil sometimes. fucking dealer. |
Holy crap I saw your car at Woodhouse the other day. You have 6 county plates right?
I noticed I'm always over by that much after they change mine too, I think I read on here that it's not a big deal but I could be wrong. I just had them install my aero kit when I seen your car there. |
Maybe it wasn't you, I thought it was an older one that I seen.
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Every time I get my oil changed at a shop they do this.
Don't worry about it. It's not like we have a crankshaft that can foam the oil if you overfill it a bit. Now if they put in 2 quarts extra.... Think of it as an extra week of not having to check your oil. |
4 quart is already too much. normal drain n fill use no more than 3.8 quarts of oil
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At the risk of sounding like TEAM...................."Wow, lots of fail in this thread"!
Jeez!! |
Originally Posted by rxwarrior
(Post 3487191)
Holy crap I saw your car at Woodhouse the other day. You have 6 county plates right?
I noticed I'm always over by that much after they change mine too, I think I read on here that it's not a big deal but I could be wrong. I just had them install my aero kit when I seen your car there.
Originally Posted by Socket7
(Post 3487206)
Every time I get my oil changed at a shop they do this.
Don't worry about it. It's not like we have a crankshaft that can foam the oil if you overfill it a bit. Now if they put in 2 quarts extra.... Think of it as an extra week of not having to check your oil.
Originally Posted by nycgps
(Post 3487248)
4 quart is already too much. normal drain n fill use no more than 3.8 quarts of oil
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am I part of the failed ?. .... ... .. . .. . . .....
*sob* .... |
Were they going by the amount of oil that the newer dual-oil-cooler engines require? The older engines have a lower capacity because they only have a single oil cooler.
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Originally Posted by jasonrxeight
(Post 3487427)
It seems to be lower when cold. This is weird cuz I thought it would be higher. I tried to suck some out through the oil stick tube. No chance or I could be doing it wrong.
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Originally Posted by fyrstormer
(Post 3487472)
Were they going by the amount of oil that the newer dual-oil-cooler engines require? The older engines have a lower capacity because they only have a single oil cooler.
aint all rx-8's dual oil cooler? |
Originally Posted by fyrstormer
(Post 3487477)
Rotaries don't have cylinder heads for the oil to be sprayed all over the inside of, so there's no place for the oil to "hide" when the engine's running. And of course, it expands a little when it gets hot, so there's why it's the opposite of what you expected.
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My dealer ALWAYS overfills the engine. Looks like they don't even use the dipstick for oil level check when changing the oil.
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Originally Posted by nycgps
(Post 3487432)
am I part of the failed ?. .... ... .. . .. . . .....
*sob* .... |
Originally Posted by jasonrxeight
(Post 3487590)
single oil cooler?
aint all rx-8's dual oil cooler? No, the early Auto's only had one! :eyetwitch |
update, my cars been having warm starting problems. I need to crank abit longer to get it started when warm.
so I took out the MAF, found oil in my air-intake, that explains why I could smell burning oil sometimes. fucking dealer. |
Originally Posted by jasonrxeight
(Post 3497902)
so I took out the MAF, found oil in my air-intake, that explains why I could smell burning oil sometimes.
fucking dealer. The oil was all the way down the upper intake manifold. While I had that off we sprayed cleaner onto the SSV and cycled it too because we've seen this valve stick from overfilling oil. So you might want to inspect further downstream. You'll probably have to clean the throttle body valve. I just remove the four bolts to the throttle body to clean it easier. Then with the throttle body removed, stick your finger into the upper intake manifold and feel around. If it feels moist and gritty (plus your finger is black), you should remove and clean that too. |
Originally Posted by Jon316G
(Post 3497911)
Had to work on a local's car last weekend when the dealer overfilled the oil.
The oil was all the way down the upper intake manifold. While I had that off we sprayed cleaner onto the SSV and cycled it too because we've seen this valve stick from overfilling oil. So you might want to inspect further downstream. You'll probably have to clean the throttle body valve. I just remove the four bolts to the throttle body to clean it easier. Then with the throttle body removed, stick your finger into the upper intake manifold and feel around. If it feels moist and gritty (plus your finger is black), you should remove and clean that too. I used to do my own oil changes, but the place I go to now, get's it done in 15mins, while I'm sitting in my car. Boom, I'm outta there. |
Originally Posted by jsjjr
(Post 3497943)
Sucks man. I'd take it back, show them what you found and make them clean it.
I've had the UIM off many times so it wasn't a big deal to do it again for him. Plus it gives him a peace-of-mind knowing it was done correctly and with care. |
Originally Posted by jsjjr
(Post 3497943)
Sucks man. I'd take it back, show them what you found and make them clean it.
I used to do my own oil changes, but the place I go to now, get's it done in 15mins, while I'm sitting in my car. Boom, I'm outta there. I will never.........ever..........ever.....let someone else put oil in my car. Mark my words! :yesnod: |
While your dealer may have overfilled a tad, I remember reading a thread on this topic a few years ago and it was standard practice and specified in system how much oil the tech was to put in. That amount was a slight overfill.
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Originally Posted by Napboy
(Post 3497953)
While your dealer may have overfilled a tad, I remember reading a thread on this topic a few years ago and it was standard practice and specified in system how much oil the tech was to put in. That amount was a slight overfill.
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Originally Posted by Mazurfer
(Post 3497948)
I hope you don't regret that statement. Cross your fingers, cause it takes less than 15 minutes to put too much oil in whether your sitting in that car or not! :Peace:
I will never.........ever..........ever.....let someone else put oil in my car. Mark my words! :yesnod: |
Originally Posted by Jon316G
(Post 3497946)
HA... dealer f*cked up from overfilling, so there was no way I was going to recommend that he take it back for them to f*ck something else up.
I've had the UIM off many times so it wasn't a big deal to do it again for him. Plus it gives him a peace-of-mind knowing it was done correctly and with care. |
I dont even know what to do now.
should I take it back and let them clean it up or what? |
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