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icemantbi 07-19-2017 02:51 PM

Compression Numbers
 
Just did a compression test. The tech said it's just below the recommended. However, looking at the numbers and seeing other numbers on here, it looks like its very low. Can someone give some insight?

PERFORMED COMPRESSION TEST.
ROTOUR #1 278RPM #1-6.0 #2-5.4 #3-5.5 - KG/CM
ROTOUR #2 286RPM #1-6.0 #2-6.3 #3-6.4 - KG/CM
CORRECTION: COMPRESSION TEST COMPLETE, COMPRESSION IS LOW SHOULD BE UP
AROUND 10.2 KG/CM.
REQUIRES FILLING FUEL TANK AND ADDING IN SEA FOAM TO CLEAN
AFTER 1 TANK OF FUEL AND SEA FOAM DRIVEN THREW VEHICLE.
REQUIRES SECOND COMPRESSION TEST.

icemantbi 07-19-2017 02:52 PM

He also told me to put an ENTIRE can of seafoam in the gas tank. Is that right? Or do these guys know what they are doing?

sonicsdaman 07-19-2017 02:55 PM

http://www.rx8help.com/img/compression_chart.png

no amount of snake oil will fix the fact that your compression is low

icemantbi 07-19-2017 03:01 PM

Yeah that's what I thought. Looking at that chart, my numbers are way low.

Can't afford a rebuild/new engine. How much can I get for it based on those compression numbers? I figure a new engine will cost around $5-6K. Probably going to try to get 1.5-2K for it. Sad :(

NotAPreppie 07-19-2017 03:12 PM

A basic rebuild to keep the car on the road will be about $2500. A proper rebuild to get the compression levels close to where they were new will probably start at $4500 and go up from there.

UnknownJinX 07-19-2017 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by sonicsdaman (Post 4827804)
no amount of snake oil will fix the fact that your compression is low

Seafoam is not exactly a snake oil.

That said, if you put some in the gas tank, it supposedly cleans the injectors more than it cleans out the carbon in the combustion chamber.

icemantbi 07-19-2017 06:30 PM

I suppose its worth a shot. Seafoam is cheap so why not. The entire can though? That seems excessive.

its a head scratcher to me. Drove it hone from dealership it was rock solid. Those numbers look bad but I noticed they ran them at different rpm. Also I may call back and find out if they normalized to my location because I don't see it on the readings. My location is 192 metres above sea level.

Loki 07-19-2017 06:58 PM

You can put the whole can, but it doesn't matter. The correct procedure is actually ingest it into the intake manifold. Mixing it with fuel is preventative at best, pointless at worst.

Another thing people have done is put a spoon of automatic trans fluid down the spark plug holes, and let sit for a day, turning over regularly. I don't promise it will do anything, those numbers are failing by a lot.

How it drives is irrelevant, at idle rpm and above the compression is higher anywah. What matters is how it starts when hot. If it has trouble, that's kind of a giveaway.

icemantbi 07-19-2017 07:15 PM

It takes about 3 to 3.5 seconds to start while hot, but it does start, every time. I assume this will just get worse and worse. Weird thing was is that it just happened all of a sudden. Never had start issues before, then one day it felt different while starting.

likely going to out her up for sale I can't afford a rebuild/new engine ATM.

icemantbi 07-20-2017 09:51 AM

Got one more question:

Any idea how long this engine will last with those compression numbers? I figure as long as she starts and runs I can keep driving it. Also, I have never pre-mixed before that is something I will do from now on as well. I know everyone recommends Idemitsu, but I can't find that where I live. Any other good alternatives? And will pre-mixing increase the life of the engine? Thanks again for all the help on here.

9krpmrx8 07-20-2017 10:18 AM

No one can say, I have seen engines run that make 90WHP but still run seemingly well. My first reman died from one day to the next, it was running fine and then the next day it hit a wall at 7000RPM and then from that point on would not idle or start hot.

And yes seafoam and all other other carbon removal remedies (aside from a rebuild) are a waste of time.


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