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Old Rotor 02-18-2007 01:40 PM

Come on Mazda....Daytona 500!!!
 
What would Mazda build if it was there? Do they have the parts bins?

NoTears316 02-18-2007 04:36 PM

A car that drives in a circle... meh

Old Rotor 02-18-2007 05:54 PM

My feeling too, but the Toy made the first move....

Easy_E1 02-18-2007 07:10 PM

Mazda would have to come up with a V8 to compete with Ford/Chevy/Dodge/Toyota.
Would love to see a 3 rotor in there for the win. But it ain't happening.

TimzSI 02-18-2007 11:06 PM

none of the Cup cars share even one part with their stock "counterparts". In fact, when Dodge came in, the had to use the Ford template, and when Toyota joined this year, they had to use a chevy template. The technical specifications of Cup cars are closely mandated and scrutinized, as you can tell from all the speed-week infractions this year. NASCAR is a sick, twisted version of what it once was; top-shelf production-based racing. No longer.

In for Montoya winning a race this season tho. :cool:

Winfree 02-18-2007 11:33 PM

Wow did you see the 500 - two cars came in and then everything thing else crashed!!!!

lone_wolf025 02-18-2007 11:45 PM

NASCAR these days is nothing worth watching. Its all the same stuff under the hood and with cheap bodies taped over a chassis to make it look like whatever car its supposed to be. With so many restrictions in place and so much BS now built into the "sport" its only a matter of who can avoid crashing or being crashed into like Winfree was saying. NASCAR FTL.

LionZoo 02-19-2007 01:47 AM


Originally Posted by Old Rotor
What would Mazda build if it was there? Do they have the parts bins?

They would build a silhouette tube frame racer with a V8 and torque tube rear suspension, a body that is indistinguishable in profile from other brands with a decklid spoiler and steel wheels.

Ike 02-19-2007 04:31 AM


Originally Posted by lone_wolf025
NASCAR these days is nothing worth watching. Its all the same stuff under the hood and with cheap bodies taped over a chassis to make it look like whatever car its supposed to be. With so many restrictions in place and so much BS now built into the "sport" its only a matter of who can avoid crashing or being crashed into like Winfree was saying. NASCAR FTL.

I'm guessing you haven't tried watching a race. Anyone who watched Daytona and didn't at least enjoy it a little is not a racing fan. Also, Foxes coverage of NASCAR is pretty impressive, they must have over 100 cameras out there.

9291150 02-19-2007 08:30 AM

I consider myself a race fan and I have never seen a whole nascar event from start to finish. Nothing duller as a race event, then there’s the sponsor worshiping and flag pounding…just plain annoying.

dynamho 02-19-2007 09:06 AM

NASCAR is not really fun to watch, but I do admire the nerves of steel and the skill of these drivers. Arguably, there's less room for error in a high speed ring than a road course to win.

Vrimmick 02-19-2007 10:04 AM

Aren't they using pushrod V8 in NASCAR? Something Toyota doesn't offer in any of their production cars?

rotary crazy 02-19-2007 11:51 AM

I dont really like nascar, but a nascar race is one hell of a show

now that the mazda 6 its getting bigger and in a few years we may see a few more japanesse cars getting involve, so it may happeng

Trekk 02-19-2007 12:10 PM

It doesnt really matter what body they use on the cars. They are all pretty much 100% the same cars. It just comes down to the better drivers and who has more money to put into the car.

Keep in mid they run these cars with restricted manifolds (choaking the motor)on them. If they were allowed to remove those the cars would go over 200mph easy on a super speedway.
They dont allow this for many reasons, but the main reason is no driver would survive that hard of a crash.

I've been watching these races for along time and they have really toned them down alot. I remeber back in the day when bumping was a common thing to do.


This is a picture of it

http://msn.foxsports.com/id/3581166_7_2.jpg

rotary crazy 02-19-2007 12:17 PM

i belive that in 1989 they tested how fast one could go on a super sppedway and it got over 210mph

Trekk 02-19-2007 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by rotary crazy
i belive that in 1989 they tested how fast one could go on a super sppedway and it got over 210mph

ALOT has changed since 1989



Bill Elliott - Set fastest NASCAR speed of 212.809 mph at Talladega in 1987

Old Rotor 02-19-2007 02:44 PM

They said on the race they would be in the 230mph if there was no restricters .What HP and CI are they running?

Steakboy42 02-19-2007 02:50 PM

dont F1 cars run 200+? and they are open topped. I say let them run unrestricted!

-Steakboy

Clavius 02-19-2007 03:08 PM

Even though I associate a Mazda 6 with racing more than a Fusion, I dont see Mazda joining Nascar. That and I dont think Ford would like the idea that much. If Ford see's Toyota doing good and people warm up to the idea of a Japanese Car maker in the series they might think of bringing in or asking Mazda to come into Nascar for a slight boost in sales. Alot of diehard Nascar fans buy cars solely on what their favorite driver drives, and if not the car then the brand of car rather scary really.

rotary crazy 02-19-2007 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by Trekk
ALOT has changed since 1989



Bill Elliott - Set fastest NASCAR speed of 212.809 mph at Talladega in 1987

well for someone who doest like nascar that much I was really close :)

rotary crazy 02-19-2007 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by Clavius
Even though I associate a Mazda 6 with racing more than a Fusion, I dont see Mazda joining Nascar. That and I dont think Ford would like the idea that much. If Ford see's Toyota doing good and people warm up to the idea of a Japanese Car maker in the series they might think of bringing in or asking Mazda to come into Nascar for a slight boost in sales. Alot of diehard Nascar fans buy cars solely on what their favorite driver drives, and if not the car then the brand of car rather scary really.

I dont see mazda running nascar anytime soon, but the next mazda 6 is going to be a bigger more camry like car, and toyota does race a camry in nascar

Vrimmick 02-21-2007 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by Steakboy42
dont F1 cars run 200+? and they are open topped. I say let them run unrestricted!

-Steakboy

F1 speed record from last year set by Honda team was 247 mph (397km/h). And they're running 2.4l V8 no FI.

kartweb 02-21-2007 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by Old Rotor
They said on the race they would be in the 230mph if there was no restricters .What HP and CI are they running?

Last numbers I heard with restrictors was about 525 crank HP - that was a few years ago.

I seriously doubt 230 MPH with 700 HP on any closed circuit track in the US - except maybe the 7 mile DOT track.

Figure an IRL car with 700 HP and much faster turn speed is in the 230 MPH range. At one time the Champ cars were clipping 242 MPH at Fontana a few years back. In the early 90's Jaguar and Toyota were topping 240 MPH at Daytona (for 24 hours!), both having in excess of 750 crank HP and ground effects that exceeded 1G above 125 MPH. Ah, the memories of the 1988 Columbus Grand Prix when the GTP cars sucked the welded down manhole covers out of their holes.

Funny thing is the spectators can't tell the difference between 200 and 230 MPH. Until parts fly off the car anyway.

6speedRenesis 02-21-2007 02:15 PM

i equate watching NASCAR to watching Golf. It's Boring

As far as AMzda getting into NASCAR, not any time soon if at all. One of Mazda's main approach to racing is the grass roots programs.

Mazda accounts for roughly 1.8 % of all cars sold in the US, of that 1.8%, they account for nearly 53% of registered sport car/racing clubs

Old Rotor 02-21-2007 03:11 PM

I like it the year when IROC ran 13Bs. Wish we knew who had one of those. Be fun to see some Video. Bought my first 13B in '74 RX4.


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