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chizzer337 04-04-2006 10:37 AM

Chirp the gears??
 
Hello, I was wondering does the rx have enough torque to do it? If so how do you go about it doing it? Let go off the clutch before the it is fully in gear?? It's confusing I tried once and never again.



Thanks

Glyphon 04-04-2006 10:56 AM

Why would you want to chirp the gears? that can't be good for them.

now, if you are talking chirp the tires on gear changes, then yes, the 8 can do that. happens all the time on the 1-2 shift (under hard acceleration), and occasionally on the 2-3 shift (under hard acceleration).

how do you do it? floor it to 9000k, shift.

remember to always obey traffic laws, and be courteous and safe around other drivers. :)

chizzer337 04-04-2006 11:53 AM

lol thanks

youpey 04-04-2006 11:57 AM

you probably tore the shit out of your gears if you let off the clutch before it was fully in gear.

typically on a manual trans, if you bring it to redline, shift it and floor it again you can get the tires to chirp...i am not saying i have done this, just that typically that is how one would do it.

ucfracerx8 04-04-2006 01:26 PM

Yes it is possible, however, if you have DSC, it is accompanied with a very short power loss after the tires lose traction. I have done it a couple time during hard shifting, I was surprised, but both times it happened I got really crisp fast shifts and the tires could just not hold on. I would recommend keeping this activity to a minimum as it is hard on the driveline and I have purposely slowed down my shifting to force myself from doing it anymore, even with that it may still happen.

JRichter 04-04-2006 01:27 PM

My RX-8 easily chirps in 1st, 2nd and 3rd with or without the TSC/DSC on. I don't let go of the clutch before it is fully in gear either, I just take it to 9200 rpm. I've done this countless times without even trying.

98T/A 04-04-2006 10:15 PM

sounds like you need new tires :icon_bs: :ky: do you have the 20B conversion or a turbo? If not i hear Discount tire is running a special. but way to sound cool buddy :icon_tup:

PerSmitt 04-05-2006 02:31 AM

I have had the DSC telling me im not nice to the rear of the car for a 3 to 4 shift too. I think it was dry but the road might have been slightly moist.

Hornet 04-05-2006 06:09 AM

With a good shift I've had the car squat and shift the rear end a little sideways while trying to get traction (usually it happens when I have a small window to merge into traffic from a stop and try to take off kinda quick). Really what happens is the revs are way up and the shift is very quick...I don't think the revs fall enough to get below maybe 6.5K or 7K!

sti_eric 04-05-2006 06:10 AM

Keep the gas pedal floored during shifting, you will be able to chirp the tires.
Also, try stomping the gas when going around a corner, tires will chirp.
For best results, do it in the snow.

JRichter 04-05-2006 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by 98T/A
sounds like you need new tires :icon_bs: :ky: do you have the 20B conversion or a turbo? If not i hear Discount tire is running a special. but way to sound cool buddy :icon_tup:

Sounds like I know how to shift. My tires have 7000 miles on them and have been rotated once.

There's several reasons the tires can break traction breifly including the type of street surface (traction on the roads in my area are poor and oily), cold tires, ect. but I think the 8's drivetrain is just that good. If you shift fast and right you get perfect synchronization which results in a 'chirp'.

A car doesn't have to have gobs of torque to break traction when shifting. The '88 VW Fox I drove 13 years ago would chirp when going into second and it had, I believe, 88 hp with probably an equal amount of torque.

RENESIS_NEENJA 04-05-2006 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by sti_eric
Keep the gas pedal floored during shifting, you will be able to chirp the tires.
Also, try stomping the gas when going around a corner, tires will chirp.
For best results, do it in the snow.

:mdrmed: BWAHAHA!!

98T/A 04-05-2006 12:59 PM

Buy some NITTO555Rs and tell me how much you "chirp" if you are still "chirpin" then I'll be impressed. Why in the hell would you want to chirp. I guess it sounds good to people who know nothing about cars but if you know anything then that means a loss of time.

JRichter 04-05-2006 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by 98T/A
Buy some NITTO555Rs and tell me how much you "chirp" if you are still "chirpin" then I'll be impressed. Why in the hell would you want to chirp. I guess it sounds good to people who know nothing about cars but if you know anything then that means a loss of time.

If your refering to me you must have missed my first post where I said "without even trying." This implies that I'm not trying to "chirp" on purpose. It's just simply a result of shifting quick and accelerating hard. I'm not at the drag strip or am I racing anybody either so I'm not worried about time. The chirp usually results from the torque being transferred back to the wheels the instant the clutch is dumped I'm not talking about breaking traction for any length of time or slipping the wheels enough to hurt the foward momentum of the car.

A loss of time comes from slow (or smooth) shifting when the foward momentum of the car is compromised to change gears.

The "chirp" I hear is probably a milisecond of traction loss which doesn't hinder the time - not a complete traction loss that you would get from, for example, flooring a Viper while rolling at 30 mph which would definately hurt your acceleration time.

Brandon 04-05-2006 10:36 PM

With snow tires, I can get it to chirp on the 2nd - 3rd shift without even redlining it in 2nd. No prawblum. The car is purty frickin' cool.

Or Dunlop M3 tires are horrible.

Joe_914 04-06-2006 12:52 PM

WHy would you want to do that? Certainly doesn't make you go faster.
Very tough on bearings in the transmission and rear end gear. not to mention the shock to the rest of the drive line.

Hey why don't you post your VIN so I know NOT to buy your car in the future.

98T/A 04-06-2006 02:42 PM

so i guess what you res saying is that your cas so much torque you cant help but accidently chirp the tires. oh yeah a millisecond at the start of the track could = a tenth at the end. but nice try.

JRichter 04-11-2006 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by 98T/A
so i guess what you res saying is that your cas so much torque you cant help but accidently chirp the tires. oh yeah a millisecond at the start of the track could = a tenth at the end. but nice try.

"A car doesn't have to have gobs of torque to break traction when shifting. The '88 VW Fox I drove 13 years ago would chirp when going into second and it had, I believe, 88 hp with probably an equal amount of torque."

"There's several reasons the tires can break traction breifly including the type of street surface (traction on the roads in my area are poor and oily), cold tires, ect. but I think the 8's drivetrain is just that good."

"I'm not at the drag strip or am I racing anybody either so I'm not worried about time."

"The "chirp" I hear is probably a milisecond of traction loss which doesn't hinder the time - not a complete traction loss that you would get from, for example, flooring a Viper while rolling at 30 mph which would definately hurt your acceleration time."

But nice try (reading that is)...

JRichter 04-11-2006 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by Joe_914
Hey why don't you post your VIN so I know NOT to buy your car in the future.

I wouldn't be worried about who buys my car next. I buy a sports car to drive it. Not baby it. I enjoy my RX-8 and when it's time to move onto the next car (I like all cars of all types) in a few years then I'll be done with it. :)


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