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Racingwhore 05-15-2004 01:33 PM

Buy or NOt to BUY????
 
Ok guys...I've been looking at a few cars... RX-8, g35, 350z, STi and the evo...... And my heart is set on the RX-8...its beautiful..i wanna get the red with black n red interior.... but i have questions guys...how does everyone like the car??? Would the have gotten a different car?? Can i get every1z Pros n Cons for the car???? Ne help would be great...THANK YOU ALL....

Todd Green 05-15-2004 02:21 PM

Glad you posted this question... I just got back from a 4 hour tear across Shreveport with my RX-8 and my buddies 350z... we'd ride for a little bit, and then we would switch cars(yes we trust each other alot) If you're lookin for the car that will throw you like a slingshot from the start the 350z will do it... BUT... it feels heavy when you are cornering at a good speed. My 8 was going through corners with no problem, felt really light on its feet. 85 through a fairly tight bend! Almost got a woody!

But away from speed and handling it is preference. Some like the option of a sunroof. I personally love the looks of the 8. Fell in love first time i saw it. Do you want 2 or 4 seats? Base price is little lower on the 8. And best of all... the 9000RPM growl of the Renesis Rotary!

If it comes down to the 'Z' or the '8'... in my opinion the 8 is wayyyyyyyy more fun! And worth the money... No regrets at all here!!! Just think, they are engineering a turbo and SC right now so if you want more power later, it will be there! Good luck man!

Spin9k 05-15-2004 03:17 PM

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Most of the ones that don't like it have gone away, some stay just to make life... ahh 'interesting'. Take a few days, look around, use the <search> button. Enjoy! :)

Racingwhore 05-15-2004 03:25 PM

Like i Love the way the 8 looks.... Its the best lookin car out of all the ones i listed before.... But people got me hesitant on buying the 8 cause of the problems mazda had b4 with the turbo...

but most likely im trying to go to the 8... like i said..red n black n red interior... 4 seats... n thing i should be aware of before i buy this car???

Ne secrets..words of wisdom...advice...

THANK YOU ALL

BigWorm 05-15-2004 05:20 PM

Todd,

when you say "They are engineering a Turbo and an SC right now" are you referring to Mazda?...any ideas on how much / when the turbo will be available?..I would be very interested in a twin turbo...very...just curious on what that would run me....one thing that i have been thinking about since i first layed eyes on the car is why they would not make the 8 come with a twin turb as the 7 did....aren't cars supposed to improve as new models come out?...when i first heard the 8 was coming out i was almost certain that it would have to have a twin turbo to compete with the 7......what do you think?

mysql101 05-15-2004 05:26 PM


Originally posted by BigWorm
i have been thinking about since i first layed eyes on the car is why they would not make the 8 come with a twin turb as the 7 did....aren't cars supposed to improve as new models come out?...when i first heard the 8 was coming out i was almost certain that it would have to have a twin turbo to compete with the 7......what do you think?
First off, the 8 does not compete with the 7. Completely different kind of car, for a different market.

Secondly, the 8 is NA, and makes the same HP as the 7. In the US it makes a bit less because of the cat requirements, but if they didn't tweak it down due to regulation, it'd be about equal.

All things said, I'd rather a NA rotary engine than a turbo that has trouble hitting 100k miles.

BigWorm 05-15-2004 05:35 PM

I hear what you're saying...it would be so sweet with a twin turbo though don't ya think...not to say that the car is not hot as is....just that it would be killer with the twin..

mysql101 05-15-2004 05:44 PM

It would be neat to say it has a twin turbo under the hood, but there are plenty of reasons why not having a turbo is good too. Engine life span is only one of those.

Ike 05-15-2004 07:17 PM


Originally posted by Racingwhore
Like i Love the way the 8 looks.... Its the best lookin car out of all the ones i listed before.... But people got me hesitant on buying the 8 cause of the problems mazda had b4 with the turbo...

but most likely im trying to go to the 8... like i said..red n black n red interior... 4 seats... n thing i should be aware of before i buy this car???

Ne secrets..words of wisdom...advice...

THANK YOU ALL

Go test drive the cars your interested in and make your decision based on that. It seems like you're a looks kind of guy so get the 8 if you think it's so beautiful. Asking people on here if you should get an RX-8 is like going to church on Sunday and asking if you should believe in Jesus. Why grown adults seem to need reassurance about purchases on an internet forum is beyond me.

Do a lot of searches, most every bit of info you could want to know is a simple search away. I would say the only deal breakers for the RX-8 are if you want good fuel economy (don't trust the EPA numbers) or if you want something with more acceleration.

RotorManiac 05-15-2004 07:48 PM


Originally posted by Spin9k
Members: 9,982........
We should celebrate when the number hits 10k..... :D

BigWorm 05-15-2004 08:37 PM

I haer ya on that one...engine life span definitely outweighs having a twin under the hood....

i remember driving my cousin's 7 that had the twin and all i remember is when i hit the gas my neck was pinned to the seat....scary to say i learned how to drive stick on that car....i guess i'm spoiled....

Todd Green 05-15-2004 09:22 PM

There are several people engineering a turbo including Mazda... SSREngineering is almost complete with his kit but i believe i will wait a while to see how everything works out with any kinda kit. Also..... no one has given any advice on a NOS kit. Lets's hear some feedback!

swoope 05-16-2004 03:03 AM

heres some help,

http://autoweek.com/search/search_di...32491&record=2

and another

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ee/index3.html

then you might want to spend some time reading around http://www.club350z.net/

then go out and buy an rx-8

just my opinion, i could be wrong.

beers

CypherSose 05-16-2004 06:56 AM


Originally posted by IkeWRX

...Do a lot of searches, most every bit of info you could want to know is a simple search away. I would say the only deal breakers for the RX-8 are if you want good fuel economy (don't trust the EPA numbers) or if you want something with more acceleration. [/B]

I couldn't agree more. I personally wanted a 350Z first because I have always been a Z fan. All in all I was happier with the total package of the 8. The back seat was a big factor

BigWorm 05-16-2004 08:09 AM

That sounds Awesome Todd!

any ideas of what the turbo will cost?...

Todd Green 05-16-2004 11:47 AM

expect to spend 5-7 g's :eek: -------> which is why i wanna hear some feedback on NOS... you'll have the power when you want it and as long as you set everything up right(fuelines etc etc.) and dont missshift you should be alrite! not to mention you can get the kit, bigger fuel lines, and the actual nitrous for about $2500! lets hear some FEEDBACK for cyring out loud!

BTW: does nitrous actually get you high like on Black Sheep?

BigWorm 05-16-2004 01:29 PM

holy cow 7 g's would be way more than what i wanted to spend....i was hoping to stay under 4...looks like NOS will definitley be a consideration.

Ike 05-16-2004 01:42 PM


Originally posted by Todd Green
expect to spend 5-7 g's :eek: -------> which is why i wanna hear some feedback on NOS... you'll have the power when you want it and as long as you set everything up right(fuelines etc etc.) and dont missshift you should be alrite! not to mention you can get the kit, bigger fuel lines, and the actual nitrous for about $2500! lets hear some FEEDBACK for cyring out loud!

BTW: does nitrous actually get you high like on Black Sheep?

1.) NOS is a namebrand and you sound like you've watched 2F2F a few too many times.

2.) Unless you're drag racing or streetracing N2O is pretty useless and will put a good amount of added stress on your car if you're using it regularly.

3.) A N2O kit will cost you far less than 2500 even with supporting mods added.

4.) You upgrade injectors, sometimes fuel pump, and fuel rails, I hope fuel lines isn't what you really meant.

5.) It won't get you high but it'll get you sick. There's a big difference between the N2O you get for a car and the N2O a dentist uses, mainly sulfer.

Todd Green 05-16-2004 03:21 PM

Im sorry...... N20..... i woulda called it nitrous or anything else besides NOS if i woulda known you were gonna try to make fun of me... but im not gonna try to act smarter than you or act like i know everything, im just stating what ive heard... and wouldnt a turbo or SC put stress on the motor as well? ill let Ike take this one again since he is a VERY knowledgable person!!!

Ike 05-16-2004 04:02 PM


Originally posted by Todd Green
Im sorry...... N20..... i woulda called it nitrous or anything else besides NOS if i woulda known you were gonna try to make fun of me... but im not gonna try to act smarter than you or act like i know everything, im just stating what ive heard... and wouldnt a turbo or SC put stress on the motor as well? ill let Ike take this one again since he is a VERY knowledgable person!!!
I wasn't trying to make fun of you, the NOS thing is just a pet peeve of mine and other enthusiasts.

FI will put more stress on an engine as well, especially if it's an engine that wasn't designed to have FI in the first place. Engines that are well designed for FI can last longer than most people will ever own a car, which can be hard to say about a car that has had FI added to a normally NA engine. To take that even further FI can be an even bigger problem with rotaries since heat is a big enemy, and turbos especially produce a lot of heat. That being said it's not impossible to add FI to an NA engine and get 100k+ miles out of it with little problems, but I have yet to see it.

Baller 05-16-2004 05:46 PM


Originally posted by Todd Green
Glad you posted this question... I just got back from a 4 hour tear across Shreveport with my RX-8 and my buddies 350z... we'd ride for a little bit, and then we would switch cars(yes we trust each other alot) If you're lookin for the car that will throw you like a slingshot from the start the 350z will do it... BUT... it feels heavy when you are cornering at a good speed. My 8 was going through corners with no problem, felt really light on its feet. 85 through a fairly tight bend! Almost got a woody!

But away from speed and handling it is preference. Some like the option of a sunroof. I personally love the looks of the 8. Fell in love first time i saw it. Do you want 2 or 4 seats? Base price is little lower on the 8. And best of all... the 9000RPM growl of the Renesis Rotary!

If it comes down to the 'Z' or the '8'... in my opinion the 8 is wayyyyyyyy more fun! And worth the money... No regrets at all here!!! Just think, they are engineering a turbo and SC right now so if you want more power later, it will be there! Good luck man!


Todd says it best.

Todd Green 05-16-2004 07:02 PM

thank you baller... also thank you ike for not including a smart-ass remark in your last post, i enjoyed gettin feedback without being made fun of... you are 30 and i shouldnt have to tell you this, but if you cant say something on the internet that you wouldnt tell somebody face to face then dont say it. But thank you, your input helped me out!

Ike 05-17-2004 06:25 PM


Originally posted by Todd Green
thank you baller... also thank you ike for not including a smart-ass remark in your last post, i enjoyed gettin feedback without being made fun of... you are 30 and i shouldnt have to tell you this, but if you cant say something on the internet that you wouldnt tell somebody face to face then dont say it. But thank you, your input helped me out!
I'm as brutally honest in person, not just on the internet :)

Todd Green 05-17-2004 09:11 PM

;) thats good to know

JeupRX-8 05-17-2004 09:41 PM

If you are not getting a manual tranny, get a 350z no doubt about it! The RX-8 auto is extremely slow, and not fun to drive at all. As far as getting the Z versus the RX-8... both are fun to drive, the Z is more like a 911, and the 8 is ???; well it has 4 seats and 4 doors. I would have liked the 8 better if it were 2 seats and 2 doors, but if that were the case, they wouldn't sell because it would be the same as a Z.
After owning my 8 for 3 months, I would definately say buy a Z-car. The rotary engine is way to tempermental IMO, and it has absolutely no torque. The Z is more fun to drive, but a little bit heavier.

Troy J.


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