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kr1spaterson 05-03-2012 08:17 PM

BHR Glowing orange?
 
Hey, I just had a new motor installed. O5, 140,000 miles...new spark plugs also.

I got a BHR midpipe with davesport cat and installed it. I looked under the car tonight and noticed that the cat and resonator was glowing orange.

What is causing this? Is this normal? Any ideas?

jasonrxeight 05-03-2012 08:24 PM

rotary engines run way hotter. even stock cat I can see the metal around the O2 sensor glows orange.

redlined 05-03-2012 08:34 PM

glowing orange/red means the davesport cat may be toast/clogged.

kr1spaterson 05-03-2012 08:39 PM

redlined - seriously? Its only 2 days old.......

MariesRX8 05-03-2012 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by jasonrxeight (Post 4255397)
rotary engines run way hotter. even stock cat I can see the metal around the O2 sensor glows orange.

Mine too. The dealer inspected it and swears it's fine.

jasonrxeight 05-03-2012 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by MariesRX8 (Post 4255414)
Mine too. The dealer inspected it and swears it's fine.

I have the cat replaced under warranty cuz it was below efficiency threshold. and its like that since the new cat installed.

9krpmrx8 05-03-2012 09:08 PM


Originally Posted by redlined (Post 4255403)
glowing orange/red means the davesport cat may be toast/clogged.


Unfortunately that is typically true. The davesports have been known to fail prematurely as well, this is third or fourth time I have heard of that.

Contact BHR.

ShellDude 05-03-2012 10:00 PM

I'd drop Ray a line via email before doing anything at all.

kr1spaterson 05-03-2012 10:02 PM

Ray? Whos that?

ShellDude 05-03-2012 10:04 PM

um, the owner of BHR. Stand up guy. Did you buy it used and/or add the cat yourself?

http://blackhaloracing.com/

kr1spaterson 05-03-2012 10:14 PM

If you know anything about BHR, davesport cat has nothing to do with them. How would Ray know anything about the davesport conditions? Thats why it says on their website that they hold no warranty against the davesport as it hasnt been tested.....

I will drop him a line anyway and I will post back what he says.

paimon.soror 05-03-2012 10:20 PM


Originally Posted by kr1spaterson (Post 4255477)
If you know anything about BHR, davesport cat has nothing to do with them

If YOU know anything about BHR, you would have known that Ray takes his work very seriously and will do his best to resolve a customer's situation....

kr1spaterson 05-03-2012 10:26 PM

Damn. Im on here seeking help and this is how you guys treat each other? wtf!

9krpmrx8 05-03-2012 10:30 PM


Originally Posted by kr1spaterson (Post 4255484)
Damn. Im on here seeking help and this is how you guys treat each other? wtf!


We are just trying to help you fruity, quit being such a pu55y about it.

ShellDude 05-03-2012 11:11 PM

wow dude... so either you know who Ray is or you don't WTF man? I'm just trying to help. I believe it gets touchy for FI and/or track applications but at the end of the day what the fuck do I care???. No where in your post did you state you are boosted or on a track.

ShellDude 05-03-2012 11:16 PM

ya know what, ef this.. how about you just drive your 8 into a meadow of tall dry grass. Lets see how well your glowing cat does under those conditions.

I mean give me a fsking break... You asked us if a RED GLOW CAT is normal? Light's on dude.... but nobody's home.

kr1spaterson 05-03-2012 11:34 PM

Im not on the track nor boosted. I am running stock apart from CAI.

kr1spaterson 05-03-2012 11:38 PM

Bottom line is that this is the first time I have went with a high flow cat. After some research I have come to the conclusion that my ignition coils may be going bad - perhaps they're not igniting the sparks right, resulting in fuel being dumped into the cat? I dont know. But my coils are getting time to be replaced - I have 17k on them.

Im replacing them tomorrow. I am also awaiting response from Ray. We will see what the conclusion is - worst scenario, I will just gut the cat.

ShellDude 05-03-2012 11:41 PM

If you bought your mid pipe directly from BHR and you did so within a reasonable amount of time (like a year or so) then it can't hurt at all to drop "them" a line explaining your situation.

People have speculated that its weak coils and the pig rich mazda fuel maps that kill the stock cat.... Very plausible. I have a set of BHR coils (as well as their mid pipe but with just their resonator) and neither my mid pipe or my resonator glow.

Red molten hot metal is definitely something you want to avoid ;)

Hope this helps,
Shell

kr1spaterson 05-03-2012 11:45 PM

Thanks dude. I understand its not normal - It only glows when I get on it, and after i let it sit for 10 minutes idling, the glowing goes away - that's what is confusing me.

I will let you know tomorrow what I find. Thanks for the input.

wcs 05-04-2012 02:18 AM

This story Does-Not-Add-Up?

Real question, is it possible to buy anything from BHR and not know who "Ray" is?

Do you still think jet fuel brought down a building?

Gentleman I'm here to inform you, we are here to take over the government

kr1spaterson 05-04-2012 05:48 AM

Ray could be anyone. I didn't know he was talking about Ray from BHR, it wasn't specified. A miscommunication being taken way out of proportion.

wcs 05-04-2012 06:34 AM


Originally Posted by kr1spaterson (Post 4255621)
Ray could be anyone. I didn't know he was talking about Ray from BHR, it wasn't specified. A miscommunication being taken way out of proportion.

LOL
You mean there are other people named Ray?
LIES!

Phil's 8 05-04-2012 07:17 AM

I just sent Ray, Todd and Erick a message.

kr1spaterson 05-04-2012 03:55 PM

To let all you know - the problem after doing some tests was two ignition coils that were failing. This caused unburnt fuel to be dumped into the cat causing it to overheat and glow orange. All 4 ignition coils were replaced today and no glowing :)

Figured I would let you all know after bad-mouthing me pretty much.


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