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I gotta get me one of those new G-Tech pro's so I can get some 0-60 numbers for the 4sp AT owners out there. Maybe I should ask the wifey for one for me b-day coming up :)
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Isn't a more reasonable comparison the 30 to 100 mph time ?
I reckon AT and MT are not THAT much different in those zones, and that's where you want it for overtaking etc. AT is a good choice for people who have to do a lot of city driving in jams. I drive mine 95% of the time in manual mode and ther rest when crawling in AT. And I love it! And my wife can drive it! |
Originally Posted by snizzle
The very fact that you're asking about 0-60 times means the RX8 is not for you.... MT or AT
It's got the handling and looks, hands down. But it lacks the third dimension. It doesn't have to be a Mustang GT off the line, but I don't wanna be challenged (and beat) by them VW Cabriolets. :Eyecrazy: |
Originally Posted by Daddy
Maybe. But I just don't understand how a Cdn$45,000 "sports" car can be so slow.
It's got the handling and looks, hands down. But it lacks the third dimension. It doesn't have to be a Mustang GT off the line, but I don't wanna be challenged (and beat) by them VW Cabriolets. :Eyecrazy: A base (MT) RX-8 starts at $37,000 CDN. A base 350Z starts at $46,000 CDN. A base S2000 starts at $50,000 CDN. A base G35 starts at $50,000 CDN. Feel better now that the 8 is a bit slower? |
Originally Posted by Blue Rex
Isn't a more reasonable comparison the 30 to 100 mph time ?
I reckon AT and MT are not THAT much different in those zones, and that's where you want it for overtaking etc. AT is a good choice for people who have to do a lot of city driving in jams. I drive mine 95% of the time in manual mode and ther rest when crawling in AT. And I love it! And my wife can drive it! |
Originally Posted by Daddy
Maybe. But I just don't understand how a Cdn$45,000 "sports" car can be so slow.
It's got the handling and looks, hands down. But it lacks the third dimension. It doesn't have to be a Mustang GT off the line, but I don't wanna be challenged (and beat) by them VW Cabriolets. :Eyecrazy: There's absolutely no reason not to get the $37,000 base 8. It has the 6spd and 6 port. That's waht I got and it's relatively quick. |
Originally Posted by khtm
Well look at the direct competition to the RX-8. Some may debate it, but I'm gonna say the S2K, 350Z, and G35C.
A base (MT) RX-8 starts at $37,000 CDN. A base 350Z starts at $46,000 CDN. A base S2000 starts at $50,000 CDN. A base G35 starts at $50,000 CDN. Feel better now that the 8 is a bit slower? Good point. The numbers don't lie for the MT. The 8 seems like a pretty good value. But what do you call a car with an automatic tranny that has the capability of competing with those others on prestige, looks (and beating them handily on price), but having Hyundai Tiburon level acceleration? <I use the Tiburon as an example... I have no idea whether it can or cannot spank an automatic 8> Again, automatic tranny folks. There'd be no issue if we compared MTs to MTs. |
Originally Posted by DARKMAZ8
There's absolutely no reason not to get the $37,000 base 8. It has the 6spd and 6 port. That's waht I got and it's relatively quick.
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Originally Posted by Daddy
Good point. The numbers don't lie for the MT. The 8 seems like a pretty good value.
But what do you call a car with an automatic tranny that has the capability of competing with those others on prestige, looks (and beating them handily on price), but having Hyundai Tiburon level acceleration? <I use the Tiburon as an example... I have no idea whether it can or cannot spank an automatic 8> Again, automatic tranny folks. There'd be no issue if we compared MTs to MTs. As for why Mazda did it? Well, the AT in the RX-8 was an *afterthought*. They didn't have the time and/or budget to design a new transmission (torque converter) that could handle the 6-port Renesis high RPMs, hence the 4-port lower powered AT engine. So now Mazda is giving in to the lazy North Americans who must have their automatic everything (sorry for the bluntness, but it's true!) and have designed a better AT setup (which is still underpowered compared to the MT). |
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