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Old 09-03-2003, 06:01 PM
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Another problem in the making

I noticed the other day that the shoulder of my seat is already starting to show signs of wear from the seatbelt rubbing across it. It'll be interesting to see just how hardy the seat material is, but I wouldn't be at all surprised to see this develop into a hole long before the warranty expires. Look for a TSB, and a design change in next year's RX-8, I reckon.
Old 09-03-2003, 06:25 PM
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Is this for the leather seat or the cloth seat?
Old 09-03-2003, 06:42 PM
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Errrr not to good

Could you post pictures?

Does it matter if it before or after warranty, isn't it just general wear and tear?

Anyone Else have this problem with cloth (because you have the sport pkg) and or Leather?
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I noticed some premature wear in the lateral support area. I have the cloth and eccles has the sport package ....so I would assume cloth as well.

My question is; Will the seatbelt wearing through the shoulder of the seat OR excessive wear in the lateral section of the seats be covered under warranty? I would imagine some dealerships contesting this. If there is a TSB as Eccles projected, it would br easier to have the warranty work done.

On the upside. It LOOKS like the cloth seats have a zipper along the seam. This makes me believe the cloth material can be "zipped off". Although the more I think of it..........the area around the rotor doesnt appear too willing to be removed.
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Re: Errrr not to good

Originally posted by PoLaK
Does it matter if it before or after warranty, isn't it just general wear and tear?
Sport package - cloth seats. Leather may not show the wear quite so rapidly, nor would it probably be a problem if you had the seat all the way back so that the belt didn't rub over the seat on its way to your shoulder.

I think if Mazda will have a battle on their hands if they try to write this off as normal wear and tear - use of the safety equipment should not cause damage to the upholsery!

Anyway, here's a quick photo of the affected area. You can plainly see the wear in the middle of the frame, and this is after only one month.

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Hmmm, I'll check mine later, but I don't notice it rubbing.
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As long as we talk about the belt maybe this isn't off topic too much : Anyone thinking like me that the belt should have some sort of device or mechanism that keeps it from being so damn tight on your shoulder and sternum? I have this thing about having anything tight on my stomach. Cars used to have this thing where you adjust it, pull it forward a little and it would lock in place , still protecting you fine but without putting any tension on you. Am i making any sense??
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i dont think they can do anything about that, nor will they be able to

because it is caused by the driver, not the vehicle. any material shows wear when rubbed by somethign else (i supposed they could use a stronger more tear resistant cloth or something, though) and its being caused by the way you sit

anyway, if they do anything, it will be replaicing the cloth because theres nothing you can do, design-wise to help the problem, as it is caused by the way the driver prefers his seat
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Originally posted by f1michel
As long as we talk about the belt maybe this isn't off topic too much : Anyone thinking like me that the belt should have some sort of device or mechanism that keeps it from being so damn tight on your shoulder and sternum? I have this thing about having anything tight on my stomach. Cars used to have this thing where you adjust it, pull it forward a little and it would lock in place , still protecting you fine but without putting any tension on you. Am i making any sense??
I think this was removed due to safety reasons (the forward motion in a crash should be minimized - this just made it so the movement was increased). there are some things you can get to do this. I know in the UK there's something called the "Clunk Clip" that does this. Not even sure if such a thing is legal here though.
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Thanks Meat !
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Seat belt design usually has an adjustable anchor in the pillor so that where the belt crosses the shoulder can be adjusted. This is for safety and comfort. It looks like there is room for that on the 8 but Mazda chose not to do it.
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Does warranty cover wear and tear interior?
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Mine doesn't rub, it's not even close????
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it looks like it'd only rub if the seat was a ways up, it didn't even get close to rubbing when i test drove one
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As I suggested earlier, if you have the seat pushed back or reclined sufficiently, the belt won't rub on the seat back. However, I like to drive with a reasonable bend in my elbows (no, not hunched over the wheel, thank you), and the rearward edge of the belt does rub as you can see.


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