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RXLogic 11-03-2008 06:44 PM

1 part 87 + 2 parts 93 = 91
 
I don't know what the deal is, but the price of regular has been falling a lot faster than premium, resulting in a 40-60 cent differential between 87 and 93 octane. So, I save about $2 a tank by swiping my credit card twice. Does anyone else do this?

kersh4w 11-03-2008 07:10 PM

octanes do not mix on a a proportional scale.

50% 87 and 50% 93 is not 90. its more like 92.

afaik.

and no i dont do that.

mysql 11-03-2008 07:12 PM

the octane listed is at least the rating given, it also might be higher.

HeavyMetal699 11-03-2008 07:33 PM

I use shell v-power.

One time a hurricane stopped the supply of fuel for over a week and I had to use 89. I heard some predetonation going on around the 6,000 RPM mark. Didn't get above 3,000 RPM after that until 93 was sold again.

J8635621 11-03-2008 07:40 PM

I have a 14 cent differential here. $1.91 regular and $2.05 premium

kersh4w 11-03-2008 07:41 PM

you mean 2.91 regular and 3.05 premium?

no way are you paying $2/gallon for premium. thats just crazy.

RXLogic 11-03-2008 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by kersh4w (Post 2711700)
octanes do not mix on a a proportional scale.

50% 87 and 50% 93 is not 90. its more like 92.

Would you care to elaborate? If you were combining isooctane and heptane mixtures, then mixing octanes most certainly would be proportional -- by definition. I suppose actual mixtures might vary somewhat, but I wouldn't think it would be that much.

DarkLord7854 11-03-2008 08:28 PM

To save 2$? Lol? Are you that cheap?

HWK11 11-03-2008 11:23 PM


Originally Posted by j8635621 (Post 2711747)
I have a 14 cent differential here. $1.91 regular and $2.05 premium



uh.... thats amazing. im paying $3.03 for premium, and it was at$ 4.50 ish a week ago

greg985 11-03-2008 11:52 PM


Originally Posted by DarkLord7854 (Post 2711813)
To save 2$? Lol? Are you that cheap?

bwahaha rly tho

Spoolin8 11-04-2008 12:17 AM

its cheap in texas, the gas station near me has regular for 1.90 and premium is like 2.13 or something.

PBlue 11-04-2008 06:33 AM

im paying 2.40 for premium in the expensive island/tourist areas on the FL coast. I know inland a bit it can get down to 2.20ish for premi, under 2 for regular. FL ftw, cheap gas and 80 degrees in nov.

and im not going to go through that to save 2$. i could drive less agressively and save more than that if i wanted.

mysql 11-04-2008 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by PBlue (Post 2712270)
im paying 2.40 for premium in the expensive island/tourist areas on the FL coast. I know inland a bit it can get down to 2.20ish for premi, under 2 for regular. FL ftw, cheap gas and 80 degrees in nov.

and im not going to go through that to save 2$. i could drive less agressively and save more than that if i wanted.

$2.36 is the average for regular in FL.

http://www.floridastategasprices.com/

https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1225802311

RXLogic 11-04-2008 06:37 AM


Originally Posted by DarkLord7854 (Post 2711813)
To save 2$? Lol? Are you that cheap?

$2 in 30 seconds? That's $120 an hour - tax free. Yep, I'm that cheap.

BBQdDude 11-04-2008 07:19 AM

We have a .21 cent difference here in Ohio. Regular today was 1.97 :lol: . I wonder what will happen after the election settles down or if it has any effect.

Take care,

Brian

nycgps 11-04-2008 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by BBQdDude (Post 2712301)
We have a .21 cent difference here in Ohio. Regular today was 1.97 :lol: . I wonder what will happen after the election settles down or if it has any effect.

Take care,

Brian

no effect. it will just keep going down

We're in recession and there is nothing can stop this.

J8635621 11-04-2008 07:34 AM

I'm serious about my prices lol. It dropped big time and fast. The most I ever paid was 4.05 for premium. Then one day it cost $22 for 3/4 of a tank instead of $45

HWK11 11-04-2008 05:04 PM

wow i guess california is just expensive on gas

Ross_Dawg 11-04-2008 06:03 PM

^werd. I payed $5.05 last summer and am paying $3.09 right now... I'm definitely not complaining though :)

pksan123 11-04-2008 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by HWK11 (Post 2713012)
wow i guess california is just expensive on gas

up here in davis/sacramento it's 2.29 for regular at chevron and shell and 2.49 for premium :)

simplyphp 11-04-2008 06:30 PM

$2.03 here in dallas

Mazdaspeed RX8 ver2 11-04-2008 06:35 PM

i wished i lived in davis now.. gas in Fremont, Union City, Hayward area is getting better. i only get 76 and the cheapest i got was 2.69 for 87 and 2.89 for 91. they are usually 20cents apart

HWK11 11-04-2008 07:17 PM

i live in danvill and the cheapest i gotten 91 is $2.99 today..

PBlue 11-05-2008 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by RXLogic (Post 2712277)
$2 in 30 seconds? That's $120 an hour - tax free. Yep, I'm that cheap.

Uhh... its 240/hr, and i guess if you cant multiply, you prob dont make much from your normal job eh?

but aside from that, people wanna complain about gas, i bet any time you've gone out for lunch you could save more than 2$ by drinking water instead of soda, by ordering a different meal, or by being a bad tipper, but do you?

DarkLord7854 11-05-2008 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by PBlue (Post 2713684)
Uhh... its 240/hr, and i guess if you cant multiply, you prob dont make much from your normal job eh?

but aside from that, people wanna complain about gas, i bet any time you've gone out for lunch you could save more than 2$ by drinking water instead of soda, by ordering a different meal, or by being a bad tipper, but do you?

Or you could not go out for lunch and make your own lunch for even cheaper.. but nope, it's better to skimp out on good quality gas for your car, I mean hell, in the event something goes wrong, at least there'll be plenty of money saved from those 2$ to pay for repairs.:yelrotflm

RXLogic 11-05-2008 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by PBlue (Post 2713684)
Uhh... its 240/hr, and i guess if you cant multiply, you prob dont make much from your normal job eh?

but aside from that, people wanna complain about gas, i bet any time you've gone out for lunch you could save more than 2$ by drinking water instead of soda, by ordering a different meal, or by being a bad tipper, but do you?

I guess I can't keep track of enough variables to make $240/hr. :wallbash:

I do usually skip the drink -- no reason to pay for sugar I'm better off without.

RXLogic 11-05-2008 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by DarkLord7854 (Post 2713801)
Or you could not go out for lunch and make your own lunch for even cheaper.. but nope, it's better to skimp out on good quality gas for your car, I mean hell, in the event something goes wrong, at least there'll be plenty of money saved from those 2$ to pay for repairs.:yelrotflm

91 IS the recommended octane rating.

DarkLord7854 11-05-2008 11:38 AM

Yes but 89 and 93 have different densities and don't exactly instantly mix, so the engine could suddenly get an influx of 89 and then get an influx of 93, and then 91, etc..

However I'm just yanking your chain, it probably doesn't make much difference IMO, I just personally don't really see a point to saving 2$ :p:

dozer 11-05-2008 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by HWK11 (Post 2713012)
wow i guess california is just expensive on gas


Originally Posted by Ross_Dawg (Post 2713103)
^werd. I payed $5.05 last summer and am paying $3.09 right now... I'm definitely not complaining though :)

i live in santa ana, and 91 is 2.75

greg985 11-05-2008 01:33 PM

I pay around $2.70 right now for 93 in south louisiana

ken-x8 11-05-2008 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by DarkLord7854 (Post 2713956)
Yes but 89 and 93 have different densities and don't exactly instantly mix, so the engine could suddenly get an influx of 89 and then get an influx of 93, and then 91, etc..

However I'm just yanking your chain, it probably doesn't make much difference IMO, I just personally don't really see a point to saving 2$ :p:

I worry about the mixing. I recently filled my Honda and added Stabil because it gets driven very little. I put the Stabil in first, then found a nice bumpy and twisty road to mix it before parking it.

Back closer to the original concept of this thread. Remember the old Sunoco custom blend pumps? With eight grades at their ratings of 190 through 260? They didn't actually have eight tanks underground. Just two, and the right mix was blended at the pump. I've always wondered if current stations with 87-89-93 have three tanks, or just two and a mixer.

Ken

RXLogic 11-05-2008 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by ken-x8 (Post 2714106)
Back closer to the original concept of this thread. Remember the old Sunoco custom blend pumps? With eight grades at their ratings of 190 through 260? They didn't actually have eight tanks underground. Just two, and the right mix was blended at the pump. I've always wondered if current stations with 87-89-93 have three tanks, or just two and a mixer.

Ken

It may depend on the station. There's a Sunoco station near me that used to be a Mobil station -- and it has 87-89-93. Three tanks there, I think. OTOH, there are a couple of other stations I know of that have 87-89-91-93. I'd bet they have two tanks and mix.

So that raises the question: How do they fill up those 89 tanks? Do they bring a tanker full of 89, or do they mix two parts 87 and 1 part 93?

DarkLord7854 11-06-2008 12:40 AM


Originally Posted by RXLogic (Post 2714493)
there are a couple of other stations I know of that have 87-89-91-93

I can one up you.. I pulled in to a Shell station around Orlando and was presented with the following choices:

87-Regular Unleaded
88-Super Regular Unleaded
89-Premium Regular Unleaded
91-Super Plus Unleaded
92-Premium Plus Unleaded
93-Super Premium Unleaded

I should have taken a pic now that I think about it.. I don't know why they skipped 90 though.. but oh well, all were within 2 cents of each other in terms of price btw..

slimjimrx8 11-06-2008 01:44 AM

i got excited i saw 2.99 for premium at a mobile...

and on the side i hate those gas stations the show a price on the big boards. but when you go inside its for cash only happen to anyone else?

ken-x8 11-06-2008 01:56 AM

I haven't seen cash-only prices for a long time, like at least 20 years. I remember when one brand would give a 4 cent per gallon discount for cash. Must have driven the pump jockeys nuts.

I've gotten tricked by stations that show three prices, but one is the cigarette price and the one you'd think was for premium is for 89.

FWIW, I just filled up with 93 at an Exxon station for $2.649 per gallon. First time in quite a while that I've gotten out of a gas station for less than $30.

Ken


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