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time4akshun 05-18-2006 12:17 PM

I'm 6'3". 265 pound bodybuilder. Fit fine in the car with the moonroof. Not an issue with the seat layed back. Thats how I like to drive anyway. Like a pimp!

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teen_living_a_dream 05-18-2006 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by wantan8
I'm tellin ya, if they made the sunroof optional on that car, it would sell better. I know tons of 6 footers who won't buy it because they don't want their head touching the ceiling. I don't even care about hp upgrade, I just want to fit in it!

it is optional for the 06

rx8wannahave 05-18-2006 01:52 PM


I bet Mazda has had so much of its resources tied up in getting the new CX7 & CX9 out the door that they haven't had the time or resources to do a major redesign of the 8. Mazda has gone back to focusing on its bread and butter cars and trucks to strengthen the lineup.
All true and a wise decision for Mazda, but you know...as a fan of the RX8 (and per our American culture)....I WANT MY NEW TOY NOW!!!!! Highly upgraded for almost free...lol.

Thanks for the reality check...I'll just have to wait and see what the up and comming changes bring us. Mazda needs to focus on becoming a better car company overall and not just a sports car builder. As....painful as that is to admit...


I'm not particularly worried about the 8 somehow being negected or dropped. We've seen a variety of rotary concepts that show the engine is very much alive and being refined. Expect to see a all aluminum DI engine within the next three years.
That would be very cool...but I'm not very technical with the Rotary, why have they not built a aluminum rotary before? I know it runs pretty hot and it's a softer metal (while it can be made strong) but wouldn't it help cooling also?

brillo 05-18-2006 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by rx8wannahave
All true and a wise decision for Mazda, but you know...as a fan of the RX8 (and per our American culture)....I WANT MY NEW TOY NOW!!!!! Highly upgraded for almost free...lol.

Thanks for the reality check...I'll just have to wait and see what the up and comming changes bring us. Mazda needs to focus on becoming a better car company overall and not just a sports car builder. As....painful as that is to admit...



That would be very cool...but I'm not very technical with the Rotary, why have they not built a aluminum rotary before? I know it runs pretty hot and it's a softer metal (while it can be made strong) but wouldn't it help cooling also?


I'm not sure why its taken this long to make it all aluminum, I'm sure in the begining it was a technical issue with the metals, but now I know they can do it (as they have shown in concept cars and Racing Beat has 13B aluminum housings, I'm sure it just costs more. One problem with a sandwich design of different metals is the warping issue due to the two metals expanding at a different temps. Being 50lb lighter doesn't hurt either.

Mazda has to be successful with its bread and butter cars first and foremost. If that means we take a backseat for two years so be it. Its the bread and butter cars that pay for the RX's and Miata's.

New Yorker 05-18-2006 04:07 PM

I love the fact that the '05 I bought in February will be just as up-to-date as a new '07. Suddenly my car feels one year younger! (Or maybe it's more accurate to say suddenly my car doesn't feel one year older!)

Dinhx8 05-18-2006 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by New Yorker
I love the fact that the '05 I bought in February will be just as up-to-date as a new '07. Suddenly my car feels one year younger! (Or maybe it's more accurate to say suddenly my car doesn't feel one year older!)


i feel the same way, my 04 will look as new for another year...


it'd be cool to see changes, but im close to paying my car off and at this point, just hope the rotary survives. even if they add more HP, i'd be happy for mazda,
but im not losing sleep over the lack of changes. I think the new colors will be cool anyhow.


my next rotary will be the next RX -?? anyways (hope there is one).

Mazdaspeed RX8 ver2 05-18-2006 04:42 PM

That stormy blue is really nice, almost like the strato blue. Darn, i want the stormy blue rx8, it would be close to my dream of having a mazdaspeed rx8 ver2. *sigh*

willhave8 05-18-2006 04:46 PM

4 Cupholders???

I have an '04 and it only has 2. Might have to upgrade :mdrmed: NOT

zoom44 05-18-2006 04:58 PM

? dude you have 4 cupholders

StealthFox 05-18-2006 06:06 PM

yeah theres two in the front sliding storage compartment and 2 in the center console in the back under the flip tray covering it

Mazmart 05-18-2006 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by brillo
I'm not sure why its taken this long to make it all aluminum, I'm sure in the begining it was a technical issue with the metals, but now I know they can do it (as they have shown in concept cars and Racing Beat has 13B aluminum housings, I'm sure it just costs more. One problem with a sandwich design of different metals is the warping issue due to the two metals expanding at a different temps. Being 50lb lighter doesn't hurt either.

Mazda has to be successful with its bread and butter cars first and foremost. If that means we take a backseat for two years so be it. Its the bread and butter cars that pay for the RX's and Miata's.

In the beginning they were all aluminum (The Cosmo engine -1967).
Your friend Paul :)

StealthFox 05-18-2006 07:50 PM

ooh nice tidbit of information

kartweb 05-18-2006 10:01 PM


Originally Posted by brillo
I'm not sure why its taken this long to make it all aluminum, I'm sure in the begining it was a technical issue with the metals, but now I know they can do it (as they have shown in concept cars and Racing Beat has 13B aluminum housings, I'm sure it just costs more. One problem with a sandwich design of different metals is the warping issue due to the two metals expanding at a different temps. Being 50lb lighter doesn't hurt either.

Mostly because aluminum has a much larger expansion rate then iron does. It's one thing to make a cylinder out of ally, quite another to make a rotor housing out of ally. Granted a coating of nikasil would make the contact surfaces much tougher then iron, to a point where apex & side seals could be hardened up a bit effectively doubling life.

Not that ally can't be done, but my bet it would have some side effects.

BTW, does anyone know if the 6=speed automatic for the 2007 is a planetary gear setup or an adaptation of the 6-speed manual?

willhave8 05-18-2006 10:05 PM


Originally Posted by StealthFox
yeah theres two in the front sliding storage compartment and 2 in the center console in the back under the flip tray covering it

ZOOM, StealthFox - Crap, you're right. I have never sat in the backseat. Now I am really really not going to get a new one :hahano:

mia culpa

Japan8 05-18-2006 10:16 PM


Originally Posted by kartweb
Mostly because aluminum has a much larger expansion rate then iron does. It's one thing to make a cylinder out of ally, quite another to make a rotor housing out of ally. Granted a coating of nikasil would make the contact surfaces much tougher then iron, to a point where apex & side seals could be hardened up a bit effectively doubling life.

Not that ally can't be done, but my bet it would have some side effects.

BTW, does anyone know if the 6=speed automatic for the 2007 is a planetary gear setup or an adaptation of the 6-speed manual?

As I recall from some posts by RG and others... it was more of a wear and tear thing with the seals against the housing. Cast iron liners was one proposed solution... As you mentioned... with today's technology, why not all aluminum with coating on the wear/contact surfaces...

2006/2007 6 speed auto is a planetary gear automatic. no SMG/DSG type transmission yet, although there are rumors of something being under development.

fenderlover 05-18-2006 10:23 PM

mwhahahaha a lower hp viva la 2005 rx8's!!!!!

"1.3L Rotary engine with 212 hp (AT) or 232 hp (MT) "

StealthFox 05-18-2006 10:47 PM


Originally Posted by willhave8
ZOOM, StealthFox - Crap, you're right. I have never sat in the backseat. Now I am really really not going to get a new one :hahano:

mia culpa

yeah haha, probably for a good reason, you're usually driving it!!! :rock:

Renesis_8 05-18-2006 11:01 PM

Its probably cost related why the rotaries arent made of better metals than iron... It costs Mazda a lot to produce the renesis already, they cant afford to use better materials and price the car at this level. Maybe when they start putting the renesis in more cars, then we'll see these improvments.
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DeluxeKarra

W1CK3Dninja 05-19-2006 12:47 AM


Originally Posted by zoom44
you already own one wick- how would them changing the hp of a new 8 do anything for the hp in your car?

i was planning on trading my car in for a 07 rx8 in november of 07 since that is when my warranty expires. but since there is no changes i'll probably get something else.

StealthFox 05-19-2006 01:11 AM

get an EVO

W1CK3Dninja 05-19-2006 01:19 AM

i might be switching to the dark side and go with a v8. i hear new camaro is gonna be sick.

zoom44 05-19-2006 09:08 AM

but in Nov of 07 there will be an 08 to consider

zoom44 05-19-2006 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by fenderlover
mwhahahaha a lower hp viva la 2005 rx8's!!!!!

"1.3L Rotary engine with 212 hp (AT) or 232 hp (MT) "

you know that the testing method for the rating changed? so the engines power didnt change (on the 6port MT) just the number.

Raptor75 05-19-2006 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by zoom44
just my guess but i think Strato Blue is goner (because of th enew paint method?) from the entire line up and that this Stormy will be close to the old Strato. With the new paint method they have, all the old colors will be gone from the whole lineup at some point.


Will this new paint method produce a stronger pint finish (i.e. less chips in the finish)?

jaguargod 05-19-2006 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by W1CK3Dninja
i might be switching to the dark side and go with a v8. i hear new camaro is gonna be sick.

I believe that the Camaro is supposed to get about 30 mpg highway with that new cylinder disabling technology. Mazda engineers had better get off of their asses and do something to improve the power of the RX8, or at least make the fuel mileage appropriate to the power output. If the Camaro looks nice and handles at least better than the Mustang, I'll definitely look into it.


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