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Jsweats430 04-17-2013 09:19 AM

Thoughts on this Car for sale?
 
Hey guys,

Still on the journey to find my 8. I found this one on auto trader. Just wondering if you guys think its an overall good buy. Attached will be the direct link to the car from the site. It has a carfax report icon on the page to view if needed. Thanks for help guys!

2006 Mazda RX-8 - Used Coupe Tampa FL | Cars Unlimited

EricB 04-17-2013 09:26 AM

im not sure about regular S1 prices, but i think it looks okay.

its an 06 which is good
low miles
looks loaded with everything
no accidents

obviously compression check before you sign anything and do the knock knock test to see if any unreported damage was done. a visual inspection is required as always.

RIWWP 04-17-2013 09:27 AM

What are the compression scores of the engine? :)

EricB 04-17-2013 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by RIWWP (Post 4458534)
What are the compression scores of the engine? :)

its the only thing that matters really.

Carbon8 04-17-2013 09:36 AM

Unique combination,

Nav and roof, but no leather or appearance package :scratchhe

Like the gallery stated, compression test.

Jsweats430 04-17-2013 09:43 AM

So the thing here is I am in MN and this is in FL. As im sure a lot of you know, looking for a good RX8 and finding one near you would be much too easy, so I expanded my search. Anyway, I havent talked to them about compression yet, i tmay not even be available still, but if they say they can do a compression test, what scores am I looking for to come back? Which is good compression test results vs bad?

Jsweats430 04-17-2013 12:28 PM

Rx8 R3 possible purchase
 
Hey guys. Other than compression.... What do you think of the overall price and standing of this one. Any help is appreciated.

2009 Black Mazda RX-8 Riverside, Ontario, Corona, San Bernadino

RIWWP 04-17-2013 12:33 PM

Threads merged. Please stick to 1 thread :)

Jsweats430 04-17-2013 02:46 PM

Compression Test results back
 
3 Attachment(s)
I am looking into a 2009 R3 and these are the results that came back.

One is the device they used, and the rest are results from each rotor. Let me know guys ASAP thanks!!

RIWWP 04-17-2013 02:49 PM

Threads merged again. I asked you to please stick to one thread.

This is no longer a request.


That's a great engine, the starter is a tad on the weak side but no cause for concern.

Jsweats430 04-17-2013 02:56 PM

Sorry I must have missed that post. Wont happen again.

Jsweats430 04-17-2013 03:53 PM

What do you guys think of an R3 with these compression results, it has 47608 on it. It has the Recaro seats and all the R3 upgrades. Whats a good price for this? They are asking 19,998. Is this a good price or how low do you think this Mazda dealership would go?

RIWWP 04-17-2013 03:55 PM

Unsure of any Canadian market influence to know if that price is too high or not. If that was in the US with USD, then I'd say it's too high by $2k-4k

Jsweats430 04-17-2013 04:01 PM

Its in the US

Jsweats430 04-17-2013 04:01 PM

What should I ask for that is reasonable. You seem to know a lot more than I do

here are the specs if you care.

http://www.cjwilsonmazda.com/web/use...de-IL/7152449/

RIWWP 04-17-2013 04:04 PM

Oh, whoops, I saw Ontario CA and though Ontario Canada, forgetting that it's also a city in California.

Yes, it's priced too high. It's a good engine, so I could make a justification for it, but you should be able to come down. For reference, when I got my 2005 in 2007 (in-service was in 2006), it had 8,600 miles on it, started at a similar MSRP, and I paid $1k less. This is 3 years and 27k older by comparison of relative metrics.

Jsweats430 04-17-2013 04:05 PM

So maybe 18000 is a solid that they might go for?

kevinande 04-17-2013 04:26 PM

If you already have your financing in order (or cash) offer them 9k out the door and let the negotiations begin. Some people don't like to haggle, but I live for it. Even if you don't have your financing in order and they are doing it for you, still make the offer. The worse they are going to do is say no and come back with a higher price. 9k out the door means TT&L included in the 9k.

Jsweats430 04-17-2013 04:27 PM

New information. It has an installed Rx8 Racing Beat REvi Intake on it.

Jsweats430 04-17-2013 04:27 PM

When you say 9k you mean 10k less than what they want? :)

kevinande 04-17-2013 04:48 PM

Dude, I was looking at the first link lol. No don't do that they will laugh you out of the dealership. Offer them 16k on that one. As a general rule I like to low ball about 4k under asking price and work from there. They will reject your first offer as sure as the sun rises every morning, and you can kind of gauge where they want to be on the car. Depending on what they have in it, you could be pleasantly surprised. The car is valued at 18500. so don't pay more than that. At the very least I would try to get 18 out the door.

Lvis 04-17-2013 04:56 PM

is this R3 at a mazda dealership?? If it is ask if there will be any problems with the warranty considering it has a aftermarket intake, if they say no then get it in writing just in case

RIWWP 04-17-2013 04:57 PM

It legally can't be a problem with the warranty.

That question is more relevant to his local dealer that might be servicing it, and only then just as a mutual agreement perspective. Legally the dealer can't refuse warranty based on the intake without proving the intake was a cause for a part failure, and certainly can't just void it because of the intake.

Lvis 04-17-2013 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by RIWWP (Post 4458940)
It legally can't be a problem with the warranty.

That question is more relevant to his local dealer that might be servicing it, and only then just as a mutual agreement perspective. Legally the dealer can't refuse warranty based on the intake without proving the intake was a cause for a part failure, and certainly can't just void it because of the intake.

when i was on mazdaspeed3 forums iv heard warranties being voided for having aftermarket intakes. Legally they shouldnt without proof of damage but its been done

RIWWP 04-17-2013 05:19 PM

Correct, dealers are made up of people too, with all of the resulting misunderstandings, miscommunications, ignorance, and occasionally intelligence.

Take anything you see and hear with a very big grain of salt. Especially people who are assumed to know what they are talking about just because they belong to a specific organization.

Jsweats430 04-17-2013 05:30 PM

I asked for 17k - 18k out the door and he replied with

"$18,000 including taxes is not going to happen for sure.
You are asking me to take $2,000 off the internet price plus eat all the taxes and fees.
You also need to think on how many black R3 are out there and this one is in really good shape. Thanks for your offer but i know for sure my boss won't do it. I can sell it to you for $19,400 certified ( 12 months/12K miles bumper to bumper warranty from the day of purchase and 7 years/100K miles powertrain warranty from 2009 up to 2016 )"

Lvis 04-17-2013 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by Jsweats430 (Post 4458954)
I asked for 17k-18k out the door and he replied

"I can sell it to you for $19,400 certified ( 12 months/12K miles bumper to bumper warranty from the day of purchase and 7 years/100K miles powertrain warranty from 2009 up to 2016 )"

it should have that powertrain warrenty regardless, hes not doing u any favors. all original rx8 motors have a 8 year /100k warrenty

RIWWP 04-17-2013 05:34 PM

Actually, IF that is a true powertrain warranty, then it is better than factory, since the factory Powertrain warranty is 5yrs 60,000. The engine core warranty is 8yr, 100,000, but that is not the same thing as a Powertrain warranty.

With how good that engine is and that added warranty, I wouldn't have much qualms about paying that price. It's still high, but justifiable.

Jsweats430 04-17-2013 05:37 PM

What do you mean True Powertrain warranty?

RIWWP 04-17-2013 05:40 PM

MazdaUSA > MyMazda > Warranty

Some people get confused on the difference between "Powertrain Warranty", and "Rotary Engine Core Warranty".

The core warranty is an extension of the Powertrain warranty as it applies only to the engine core. Example, assuming a normal Powertrain warranty of 5yr 60,000 miles, at 60,001 miles, the transmission, diff, axles, ignition, driveshaft, etc... are no longer covered, but the engine core still is.

The engine core warranty also typically leaves some cost in the hands of the owner when the engine needs to be replaced (powertrain items that aren't considered part of the engine core that need to be replaced with it), where as under the Powertrain the cost should always be $0.

Jsweats430 04-17-2013 05:43 PM

Good to know. So you think 19500 is decent for this R3? He sent me pictures of the installed Racing beat Intake on it. It has rock chips on the hood and front bumper. Still solid price?

RIWWP 04-17-2013 05:45 PM

No, "still high", but, depending on what you can afford and the dealer, it's possibly acceptable.

We really can't tell you exactly what you should be paying and what you should be willing to pay.

Jsweats430 04-17-2013 05:46 PM

Well I am more soo looking for opinions on if im getting ripped off. regardless of what I can or cant afford, the deal as it stands.

Jsweats430 04-17-2013 05:48 PM

He replied

"the powertrain is limited and it's only up 5 years/60K
With the certification you get 12/12K bumper to bumper ( the car has no bumper to bumper left because is only 3 years/36K miles) from the day you pick up the car and the 5/60K gets extended to 7 years/100K
I would recommend the certification for sure because after 60K you are on your own on repairs plus it's transferable so if you decide to sell the car with 80K miles the person that buys it will have 20K miles of warranty on all the mechanical parts on the vehicle."

RIWWP 04-17-2013 05:52 PM

Given that extended warranty, I'd say that no, you are not getting ripped off. If you keep the car that long, you PROBABLY won't be losing money on the deal. If you sell it ahead of time, you can justifiably ask for more because it's transferable. Most warranties are not.

Jsweats430 04-17-2013 05:57 PM

I think I have heard enough. Thanks a lot anyone who has contributed. Lovin this Rx8 site....very helpful.


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