BecauseRaceCar

Something like that, but a little higher once the mounts are there...and probably won't use visegrips on the bolts.

BecauseRaceCar

Just bought 10 led lights for the back section of the garage....soo000 65000+ lumens total. Cant wait to be able to see back there!

BecauseRaceCar

I put 10 of those lights up, what a friggin deal! I am probably getting 10 more.


Steering rack all mounted up (need to drill out knuckles for heims) and notched the crossmember as well.


Adapter from Ballade Motorsports

BecauseRaceCar

Got the manual rack all welded in, got my adapters for the heims welded in, need longer bolts though, and got the steering knuckles swapped over. Had to buy another knuckle setup since mine was shot and only one side fit. Spent some time over the weekend installing more led lights, garage is now sitting at 128,000 lumens

trackjunkie

this was exactly what i was looking to do with the rx8 when i got it last month. do you see any possibility of doing the swap without notching the subframe. can you modify the oil pan instead. since i'm build the car to race with NASA, the rules doesn't allow the subframe to be modified.

BecauseRaceCar

You could modify the oil pan, but that may not be enough, the 2.4 head and coolant outlet keep you from pushing the motor back far enough. Even the notched subframe on mine will be very close, if not I have to modify the hood.

I am hoping I can some time to test fit it over this weekend, and if I do I will report back what I found.

trackjunkie

great, that would be awesome. per the rules, not allowed to modify the subframe, firewall or trans tunnel, except to cut hole in trans tunnel for shifter. can you modify the coolant outlet, or the head is still an issue. modify hood is not an issue in the rule.

BecauseRaceCar

I imagine if you can cowl the hood you can fit it no problem.

I will take some pictures of the coolant outlet, I believe it be altered, but will still be a nuisance. I guess the 2.0 head is a lot better fit.

Cool videos by the way, you make it to Palmer yet?

trackjunkie

that would be nice if the k20 head has more room. have you seen this post with F20 swap? looks like he cut out the cross member completely.
https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fcyriousgarageworks.com%2Fmazda-rx8-honda-s2000-f20c-rx2000%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNHZvrtCqQYaQ2WO14Yq rOCvwsQGiA


was at palmer for the first time last year. but haven't been back since nasa didn't run there this year. it's an awesome track, but there are some safety concerns.

blackmount

Pretty sweet - If i ever go to the dark side of piston swap in my RX-8 I was planning on a full S2000 swap, and keeping it relatively stock.

If your not really chasing power, any benefits of using the K-Series VS the s2000's F-series?

BecauseRaceCar

Yeah I went through that whole build thread, they cut the hell out of the firewall too, but I do love how low they got that motor in there.

Super cool, tt3 record! What safety concerns, definitely want to be on the look out for those.

BecauseRaceCar

My original thought process was the F20 too, but to run boost the F20 would cost more to build, and the initial cost of the motor was way higher. I got a very low mileage K24 for 700 bucks and found a surprisingly strong aftermarket for it.

If I were to keep it relatively stock and did not mind spending the extra money upfront, definitely the F20. The guy I got my transmission from had some awesome S2000s that put out some good power 300+ at the wheels, but for my car I was looking in the 500 range.

trackjunkie

K series are cheap because there's a **** load of them out there, they were in RSX, TSX, Element, CRV and accord. they are better then F20/22 because of variable timing along with VTEC. cheap to get and more aftermarket support. there's a company that sell 500 hp NA crate motor K24

the F series would make it easier to use the s2k tranny, which is probably one of the best shifting tranny. also it was designed for longitudinal mounting, where as the K series were transverse mount. this could lead to oiling issues for high G force track car. I've heard a few instance where k24 swapped miata blew engine because of oil starvation. might have to modify the oil pickup or go dry sump for heavy track use.

trackjunkie

exposed rock face long the track. barrier wall not high enough, and need more catch fence on some areas. if your car make it over those low wall, you're flying down the mountain like pikes peak.

blackmount

Thanks guys, Yeah I am a strong believer in NA power, and wouldn't really do much beyond a solid intake and exhaust setup - I missed the part about you saying you were going the forced induction route - So that makes sense.

That build thread also is not working for me - Asking me to download something to view it, and if I hit no it just keeps popping up something every 3 seconds. I'll try on my phone.

My exgirlfriend had a S2000 before her Supra, and she educated me on that the F20C had an oiling problem as well - specific to the AP1s...

BecauseRaceCar

Try this one instead.
https://www.engineswapdepot.com/?p=12158

I am contemplating not doing a turbo setup as I have been driving my DD and not driving my truck for a while, I got in it the other and was like damn I hate this turbo lag!

BecauseRaceCar

I heard they have done a lot since then to remedy those issues, hopefully that is true. Yeah I live right near there and those are some big hills to somersault down, I already barrel rolled down one of them.

BecauseRaceCar

Here are some mockup pics, this is with the oil pan resting on the crossmember I notched. If I moved the fuel lines and harnesses up top I could pick up another inch+, but the coolant outlet would be literally into the firewall.

PS, the po hammered the firewall/wiper motor tray back to "fit" the 2jze he had in there.

BecauseRaceCar

Here are some pictures of the coolant exits at the back of the block, would probably have to make a plate that mounts to the block with a 90 degree coolant outlet and a remote thermostat.

charlienofun

Great work @BecauseRaceCar I'm about to get started on a j32a2 + s2000 transmission into my 04 Rx8. I've got the j2f trans adapter and almost everything I need to start test fitting.

Did you consider swapping over to the NC Miata subframe? It doesn't get the rack as far fwd as you did but I'm thinking it might give just enough room with a v6...

BecauseRaceCar

Thanks! And thats going to be a cool setup there, cant say I have ever seen one of those swaps.

Hmmm didnt think about swapping the sub frame, I am going to have to look into that.

charlienofun

Thanks! I have read that the NC Subframe bolts in - I'm thinking for swaps where the smaller rack in the stock location works this could keep from having to go custom on the subframe. I was researching this because NASA has a rule in the ST3/4/5 classes where you take some points for modifying the subframe. I'm not sure if I'm going to bother or not, I guess I'll figure it out after I test fit with the stock subframe. If I have to mount the Miata rack like you did I might just hack it all up and go mustang steering rack. I'm quite a few steps behind you, still cleaning up my chassis.

BecauseRaceCar

That would be cool if it does. Yeah without modifying the sub frame and/or firewall I dont know if much else will fit.

BecauseRaceCar

I stripped some stuff off the motor to see if it helps and it doesnt really. That motor is damn tall.

trackjunkie

thanks for posting all the pics. i think the k20 deck height is about 20 mm shorter than k24. wonder how that would fit.