Shifter sitting too low
 

Hey guys, I noticed my shifter sits too low compared to other rx8s I've seen. The bottom of the shift knob is about a 1/2 inch below the silver ring in the center console (so the shifter is recessed into the center console). In every other rx8 I've seen it sits about an inch or so above the ring. I've had difficulty shifting because the shift knob, due to its height, physically hits the outer ring when shifting, especially in reverse.

Car has a new clutch and the shop could've screwed something up putting the transmission back in the car. If this is the case, what should I look at adjusting to fix it? Front subframe? Engine mounts? Other potential cause would be the car has a short shifter that I don't know about. Seems unlikely a short shifter would hit the center console though.

Power Plant Frame probably isn't adjusted properly causing the transmission to sag.

Bizarre. They might not have lined up the power plant frame correctly but that doesn't exactly have a ton of play to it. Maybe they forgot the PPF entirely and your trans is held up by the driveshaft? Probably want to get under there...

Just got done figuring out how to check the power plant frame and that looks like the issue. You can see marks where the nuts used to be (completely opposite where they are now). I should be able to lift the back of the transmission until the studs are back in their original position. But I think there's a specific alignment measurement from Mazda that I should probably follow.

How bad/dangerous is driving the car with the power plant frame misaligned? Should I not drive the car until this is fixed?

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Undo the nuts... jack it up until the nuts are where they used to be....


That will be good...👍

no, no, no :slap:

it needs to be adjusted such that dimension A as shown in the diagram below is 55mm / 2.16”

that may align with the previous pattern, but not necessarily so don’t assume, you can use a jack without the indicated bolt though
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If only the front end was loosened i would bet that 9x out of 10 there will be no difference....

Only time i have seen a difference is when the shaft and complete ppf has been removed....

I understand, but my thought process is to eliminate assumptions and be sure. Loosening the rear is not usually a big deal though. Because unlike the front, it has the additional lateral positioning bolt to aid alignment.

those nuts generally take a strong impact gun or big breaker bar. I use a long HD 3/4” breaker bar on them myself. The cordless impact guns they offer now can likely handle it though.

it could be they were never properly tightened the previous time though, then came loose and moved.
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I understand your need for perfection...

I'm more of a realist 😉

If they can't find the information thats already here... gotta make it simple

That x-member can become bent up after a few scrapes so :
Better than Mazda's instructions ...actually align the gearbox and diff by setting them at the same angle. Easiest way to do that is to set the whole car at an angle such that the diff is at zero degrees . Then just set the transmission to zero degrees also.

not at all, if you’re going to teach somebody then educate them properly is all. :dunno:

if anything, the perfectionist response is from Brettus seeing as how the actual spec in the photo clip from the service manual I posted has an 8mm / 0.3” tolerance range

typical forum hilarity ensues … :lol:
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I actually ended up with a vibration after setting to Mazda spec. Wasn't till I realised the aftermarket engine mounts I was using were much lower than stock that I thought to do it the above way . Fixed my issue plus have seen vibration issues on race cars solved the same way as well.

Last time I used my laser... now thats a**l 😉

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If we were doing it right then we’d explain in detail that the setting has a more urgent consideration than shifter height; as Brettus mentioned, the drivetrain alignment between the engine/transmission and the rear differential. It’s also a good point that changes to the mounts between those two points; even extreme sagging, may need to be given consideration in setting the height. I’m not sure we need to go this far though


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