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treahuggs 07-10-2010 06:17 PM

Often the engine needs rebuilding 2004 model
 
Im looking to buying a Rx-8 and ive found alot of 2004 models for sale. Is there anything wrong with the 2004 years? Theres so many for sell i just want to make sure its not a lemon year. Also i know that the engines need (or needed) to be rebuild about every 40k miles depending on driving. Did they fix this with the 2004 and up models?

Basically what im asking-
Is the 2004 years good?
How often should the engine be rebuild with the 2004 years?
Or general need to know info on the engine.

Thank you

VashGS 07-14-2010 03:38 PM

All Series 1's engines have a set of manufacturers defects (seals, carbon buildup, thin oil, high temps from poor fan programming to keep it more quiet for whimps that don't like fans). Ooo.. did I just type all that. :) In my opinion lol.

This is why Mazda has extended warranty in USA (why not world?? boggle) to 100,000 see the sticky above.

RotaryMachineRx 07-14-2010 05:13 PM

40000kms (25000miles) on my 04.... still runnin strong

9krpmrx8 07-14-2010 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by RotaryMachineRx (Post 3635175)
40000kms (25000miles) on my 04.... still runnin strong


113,000 on mine and 3rd motor. Glad yours has lasted 25,000 :rolleyes:

DarkBrew 07-14-2010 05:42 PM

125,000 km

Looking forward to the 160,000 km club

You'll need coils, plugs and maybe wires every 40K or so

Make sure any car you buy didn't miss any TSBs or recalls

You need to warm it up nicely, keep the oil level up and the oil clean, get it up to redline often and use premium gas with cleaning additives.

treahuggs 07-15-2010 06:27 PM

Is the 2005 year any better or more reliable then the 2004? Im all for buying a Rx-8 but i wont be able to pour thousands into it all the time nor have it in the shop often. It would be my everyday car. And thanks guys

DarkBrew 07-15-2010 06:32 PM

No real difference as long as the updates were done.
Mine has been reliable; but I spend thousands on upgrades anyway! Such is the rotary addiction...

JantzenRX-8 07-15-2010 06:46 PM

70k miles on my 2004 no issues so far. Replaced the coils at 50k and that's about it for non-regular maintenance.

JantzenRX-8 07-15-2010 06:46 PM

70k miles on my 2004 no issues so far. Replaced the coils at 50k and that's about it for non-regular maintenance.

azzuro 07-15-2010 07:05 PM

106000 kms and still running fine on original engine.

RX8sd 07-15-2010 11:08 PM

Ive had a couple issuse, but none leading to a replaced engine though....62grand on it now

C-PHLAT 07-16-2010 12:04 AM

I got a '04 MT used back in january, with 54k miles at the time. It has 68k now. I changed the plugs and coils recently. I think the coils needed it more than the plugs. Not a difficult, or expensive task if you do it yourself. I also ended up gutting my cat because there were chunks falling out of it upon removal after I noticed loss of power at high rpms. That was that. fixed....next . Only get it if you are willing to get a little dirty from time to time, and like to floor it.. ;)

dondo 07-16-2010 12:06 AM

my 04 was great for 77k miles when the compression got a little low so i got a new motor. you wouldn't have to though. i'd say go for it!

shaunv74 07-16-2010 12:49 AM

1st motor replaced at 56K miles. Just tested my 2nd motor at 67K miles and the compression low again. Going to have to bring it in to get engine number 3. No idea what the life on these engines should be. :dunno:

R3n3sis36 07-16-2010 05:33 AM

im on the 2nd motor replaced at 50k currently 80k running very stong. Good warm up b4 use, redline b4 i get home, constant awareness on oil level and changes, water temp, clean the MAF sensor on oil changes and premix on a aggressive drive. jus changed plugs and coils.

VashGS 07-16-2010 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by shaunv74 (Post 3636957)
1st motor replaced at 56K miles. Just tested my 2nd motor at 67K miles and the compression low again. Going to have to bring it in to get engine number 3. No idea what the life on these engines should be. :dunno:

Well this is why Mazda has stepped up and give the 100,000 extended. The engines should give 120,000+ in my opinion otherwise they will never have a good enough reputation. Mazda must make Renesis match older rotaries (hence S2 changes). I'll spare the 1st gen is best speech. :)

Nissan likes to play secret engine swap with REV-UP oil problem in the 350z (no recall just they fix sometimes... if your lucky). Example of it could be worse.

RXFEVER 07-17-2010 02:38 PM

Well with 92,600 miles on mine it just required coils, plugs, good oil (no synthetic) and filter. Little low in compression but still pushing hard. See you :wavey:

treahuggs 07-18-2010 09:05 AM

What makes it worth all this shop time and money? And how much are we talking here/ freq i need to get stuff replaced?

RX-865 07-19-2010 11:00 AM

I'm at 110,000 miles and the only thing i had to have done besides plugs, wires, coils, was to replace the coolant seals. Still on engine numero uno though for a 2004 model.

RotaryMachineRx 07-19-2010 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by treahuggs (Post 3639270)
What makes it worth all this shop time and money? And how much are we talking here/ freq i need to get stuff replaced?


As for "all the shop time" the only time mine has spent in a shop was to get the wheels aligned after installing my S-Tech Springs. As long as you perform regular maintenance on it.... Oil/filter change every 4000kms, add half a quart of oil every 2000kms you should be fine. Before you buy one I would get a dealership to test the compression of the engine for you and do a thourough check-up. If you buy from a dealer they do all this for you free of charge with a detail as well; mine did anyway. As for any other irregular maintenance it is easy enough to do yourself (ie. Spark plugs and coils) with any type of experience. If you don't have the experience find someone who does that can help you and this site has some very good DIY's that will guide you step by step for almost everything.

As for what we love about this car... go test drive one... it's hard to explain in words and the longer you own one the more you become attached to it...:cuddle:

Huey52 07-19-2010 12:33 PM

How did you infer from all the solid "no problem" longevity posts that there was a lot of shop time and expense??? :confused:

It appears many of the noobies lack the ability to digest information prior to additional posting. If you're not going to be availed of the insight provided by owners then why bother asking in the first place? :wallbash:


Originally Posted by treahuggs (Post 3639270)
What makes it worth all this shop time and money? And how much are we talking here/ freq i need to get stuff replaced?


treahuggs 07-20-2010 06:11 PM

I asked that cause ive also been to other forums and everyone says they all have to go to get it worked on alot. I want one really bad but cant afford pouring money into one... yet.

Huey52 07-21-2010 08:05 AM

^ Keep in mind that the majority, who have no issues, don't post theads entitled "I have no issues." [I did one time just for the heck of it when I was similarly exasperated]

"They all have to go and get it worked on a lot" is a very subjective comment in this context.

shaunv74 07-21-2010 11:24 PM

+1. I have done regular maintenance myself and haven't had any problems to speak of. Except my motor replacement issues under warranty. :dunno:

I did have the cat. O2 sensor go bad but I could have done that myself if I'd had the time before the emissions inspection.

treahuggs 07-22-2010 05:50 PM

Ok in the chance i buy one. How should i treat it? I hear replace the oil alot and keep the engine warm by running it fairly hard. Anything else?


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