New Owner SAFE Question and Answer thread
03-27-2018, 02:26 PM
#1451
40th anniversary Edition
There were also upgrades in starters after 2004. The 14-tooth S2 series starter is a direct fit in all RX8s-2004-2011, and great upgrade to all S1 starters. I changed to this.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/OEM-12V-S...&wl13=&veh=sem
https://www.walmart.com/ip/OEM-12V-S...&wl13=&veh=sem
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03-27-2018, 10:17 PM
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Thank you gwilliams, Ha I may have known some of those salespeople (well not specifically at yours) but I did work at a Mazda dealer during the early years of the RX8.
I will plan on getting a compression test down once I narrow it down to the 'one' before committing cash to it, I was just hoping to get an idea of whats 'normal' so I can whittle the list down a little first.
This has been my process so far (excuse the length of this):
I looked at a 2007 with 70K walked away from that despite the attractive price due mostly what appears to have been a reoccurring over heating issue, the radiator (replacement was aluminum but no idea on brand so don't know if it was an actual upgrade) and hoses had all been replaced, but prior to that the AC system had been stripped out and also the prior hood had some very crudely cut 'vents' (actually big *** holes). While a lengthy test drive didn't reveal any current overheating issues the fact that potential for damage was there in the past meant it was a hard pass regardless of price.
Another 2007 with 80K on original engine that, "doesn't need a compression test because he's takes care of the apex seals." From what I am gathering 80K is probably nearing the end of life of even the most perfectly maintained vehicle or at least close enough to warrant a through testing - so again pass, side note why would any seller think they could charge double book price premium and not have a test done, if I was selling one of these cars it would be the first thing I'd have done.
Also a 2007 with 120K engine was replaced 4 years ago according to Mazda, but based on a VIN history it had about 55K on it at that point - after speaking with the owner and with information gained here that one is off the list too.
This has me down to about 3-4:
A 2004 with under 50K, supposedly meticulously maintained but owner did let slip it takes longer than a piston engine to start (he was under the impression it was somewhat normal), well maybe nothing or maybe something big, with the info from you guys it is something that needs more investigation (compression test, etc) before commitment.
A 2004 with under 30K, information is sparse on this one, but owner is open/willing to get a compression test, waiting for more info about options/color before pursuing.
A 2005 with 120K though supposedly rebuilt at 90K open to getting a compression test done but a boat load of 'performance' aftermarket parts, a poor mistmatch bumper replacement and a younger (no offense to any whippersnappers) recent shortly term owner have me wary.
Lastly a 2004 with again 120K, lacking leather but supposedly the owner does have recent compression test paperwork that I am waiting to receive copies of, no leather but with confirmed engine health and an attractive price and supposedly 'mint' condition I can be flexible.
I just want to say thanks again for everyone's input, it has definitely helped me avoid some potential problem cars and will hopefully make sure I can find the right one shortly.
Also I had been checking the recalls and contacting Mazda about prospective cars if the current owner had no information.
I will plan on getting a compression test down once I narrow it down to the 'one' before committing cash to it, I was just hoping to get an idea of whats 'normal' so I can whittle the list down a little first.
This has been my process so far (excuse the length of this):
I looked at a 2007 with 70K walked away from that despite the attractive price due mostly what appears to have been a reoccurring over heating issue, the radiator (replacement was aluminum but no idea on brand so don't know if it was an actual upgrade) and hoses had all been replaced, but prior to that the AC system had been stripped out and also the prior hood had some very crudely cut 'vents' (actually big *** holes). While a lengthy test drive didn't reveal any current overheating issues the fact that potential for damage was there in the past meant it was a hard pass regardless of price.
Another 2007 with 80K on original engine that, "doesn't need a compression test because he's takes care of the apex seals." From what I am gathering 80K is probably nearing the end of life of even the most perfectly maintained vehicle or at least close enough to warrant a through testing - so again pass, side note why would any seller think they could charge double book price premium and not have a test done, if I was selling one of these cars it would be the first thing I'd have done.
Also a 2007 with 120K engine was replaced 4 years ago according to Mazda, but based on a VIN history it had about 55K on it at that point - after speaking with the owner and with information gained here that one is off the list too.
This has me down to about 3-4:
A 2004 with under 50K, supposedly meticulously maintained but owner did let slip it takes longer than a piston engine to start (he was under the impression it was somewhat normal), well maybe nothing or maybe something big, with the info from you guys it is something that needs more investigation (compression test, etc) before commitment.
A 2004 with under 30K, information is sparse on this one, but owner is open/willing to get a compression test, waiting for more info about options/color before pursuing.
A 2005 with 120K though supposedly rebuilt at 90K open to getting a compression test done but a boat load of 'performance' aftermarket parts, a poor mistmatch bumper replacement and a younger (no offense to any whippersnappers) recent shortly term owner have me wary.
Lastly a 2004 with again 120K, lacking leather but supposedly the owner does have recent compression test paperwork that I am waiting to receive copies of, no leather but with confirmed engine health and an attractive price and supposedly 'mint' condition I can be flexible.
I just want to say thanks again for everyone's input, it has definitely helped me avoid some potential problem cars and will hopefully make sure I can find the right one shortly.
Also I had been checking the recalls and contacting Mazda about prospective cars if the current owner had no information.
(If you can't do that go for an 06-08, as the later year S1's apparently never had as many issues) They said either the 04-05 were good and never really gave problems if you were lucky, or they has issues right off the truck. Mind you this is coming from guys who've been with Mazda Canada since the car came out.
Take it how you will, but I've heard nothing but "Turns out the motor was crap anyway" stories from the 04-05's that didn't have a rotary inclined owner from the beginning or.. people who've gotten the car from others who likely didn't know how to treat it right....
Don't even get me started on the "Motor replaced XXX,XXX Miles/kms ago, only have '
It's the reason why I've skipped over many a far cheaper S1 Rx8 and went straight to the Series II R3. (Updated motor, OMP and oil injection system, stiffer chassis, and various other improvements, and the fact that RX8 rep was in the pits and nobody but enthusiasts really bought them)
80k Kilometers OR Miles isn't the end of a rotary unless someone was really abusing it, and neglecting it like they were to say, a beater Toyota corolla
Though.. I wish you luck if you do decide to buy one!
Last edited by Motakai; 03-27-2018 at 10:19 PM.
03-27-2018, 10:27 PM
#1453
Smoking turbo yay
S2s are quite a bit more expensive than S1s from what I have seen.
I, too, looked at a bunch of S1s before settling on the S2. It was priced quite a bit higher than the S1s, though.
And they are rare as only 17000ish S2s were ever produced. The only one I can find in my area is this Sport AT that's been sitting at a dealer forever.
I don't know how much you care, but I would go for a GT(if you want comfort) or R3(if you want handling) rather than the Sport... The price difference wouldn't be huge anyway.
I, too, looked at a bunch of S1s before settling on the S2. It was priced quite a bit higher than the S1s, though.
And they are rare as only 17000ish S2s were ever produced. The only one I can find in my area is this Sport AT that's been sitting at a dealer forever.
I don't know how much you care, but I would go for a GT(if you want comfort) or R3(if you want handling) rather than the Sport... The price difference wouldn't be huge anyway.
03-27-2018, 10:34 PM
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Motaki, Thank you for input, problem is things are slim pickings, I've cast my net wide across the interwebz (not to say I didn't miss one) and there are a grand total of 3 09+ RX8s within a 250-300 mile radius of my location and all 3 are autos. Its not that I don't want a S2 or even that I can't afford one, I just quite simply can not find one.
I wont be buying any without a compression test so hopefully that will likely save me some pain going forward, hopefully avoid the crap motor anyways scenario. I know the 04 suffers from first of the bunch syndrome but the only significant difference I've really seen is the starter. I'd take a properly maintained 04 with test results over a 06 or 07. Maybe the R3 will be in the future.
I wont be buying any without a compression test so hopefully that will likely save me some pain going forward, hopefully avoid the crap motor anyways scenario. I know the 04 suffers from first of the bunch syndrome but the only significant difference I've really seen is the starter. I'd take a properly maintained 04 with test results over a 06 or 07. Maybe the R3 will be in the future.
03-27-2018, 10:39 PM
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I was leaning/wanting a GT due to the leather and heated seats, but again its lower on the list of priorities than a healthy engine and maintenance records.
From what I understand there should be no difference (outside of the seats) ride wise between the GT and T (moon roof is a non negotiable need) or were you stating for the S2.
From what I understand there should be no difference (outside of the seats) ride wise between the GT and T (moon roof is a non negotiable need) or were you stating for the S2.
03-27-2018, 10:51 PM
#1457
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I was leaning/wanting a GT due to the leather and heated seats, but again its lower on the list of priorities than a healthy engine and maintenance records.
From what I understand there should be no difference (outside of the seats) ride wise between the GT and T (moon roof is a non negotiable need) or were you stating for the S2.
From what I understand there should be no difference (outside of the seats) ride wise between the GT and T (moon roof is a non negotiable need) or were you stating for the S2.
If you can find a Manual S2, and are willing to go the extra (Hundreds of) miles to get one, expand your search area. Not sure if New Hampshire has snow on the ground right now, but I wouldn't be surprised if ads are down for the winter until spring comes kicking down the door. A S2 would be worth the wait if your up for it.
I think there might be an SII Gt 2009 in Crystal white mica still hanging around Royal Motormart in Brooklyn NY, and believe I've seen a private ad for a R3 2009 in black in union city, NJ.
Hit up Car-gurus and Autotrader once a day till you fine something interesting....
Last edited by Motakai; 03-27-2018 at 11:09 PM.
03-27-2018, 11:05 PM
#1458
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Yes I have an OBDII reader already and it has already been put to use during the search.
Are you referring to maintenance records to do with the engine, or more general. For example 10K since a fully documented rebuild and detailed history since then but somewhat sparse prior, does it matter since the engine has been rebuilt? The general opinion I get here is that engine health/history/test results trumps general maintenance records, ideally there would be both, but in reality I'm not sure that will happen or if it is even out there.
Are you referring to maintenance records to do with the engine, or more general. For example 10K since a fully documented rebuild and detailed history since then but somewhat sparse prior, does it matter since the engine has been rebuilt? The general opinion I get here is that engine health/history/test results trumps general maintenance records, ideally there would be both, but in reality I'm not sure that will happen or if it is even out there.
03-27-2018, 11:27 PM
#1459
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Service Records are not the be-all end-all. They tell you how the car was treated certainly, it'd tell you if it's seen a winter, and it'd tell you if the owners treated the car like crap, which can lead to headaches later on.
For the record, under no circumstance would I touch a car that doesn't have records of the rebuild.(EDIT: IF, it has a rebuilt motor) Period. Not even if compression results are mint. No rebuild records means you have no way of knowing the quality of the rebuild, it might have 10k on the rebuild but it could've been put together like crap and will last another 3k miles no matter how good you are to it. ALTHOUGH, if full rebuild documentation is available? Do some research on the shop that did it and find out if they produce good results.
For records, in non-rebuild cars motor specific records are more valuable since it is the Achilles's heel of the car. So what if there's brake and suspension records since it came off the lot, what good will that do you when the motor could've had several tow-in incidents, de-flooding services and keeps throwing CEL codes?
Also. It really needs to be said around here, but even though a Rotary-Specific compression test tells you a lot, it won't let you know one of your main Eccentric shaft bearings is 5000 miles from going south. (Or other vital problems really)
(TLDR, The RX-8 is predictable in everything but what makes it special, and knowing knowing down to the last hour Rain-x was applied won't do you any good when you get the surprise 4500$ motor quote)
For the record, under no circumstance would I touch a car that doesn't have records of the rebuild.(EDIT: IF, it has a rebuilt motor) Period. Not even if compression results are mint. No rebuild records means you have no way of knowing the quality of the rebuild, it might have 10k on the rebuild but it could've been put together like crap and will last another 3k miles no matter how good you are to it. ALTHOUGH, if full rebuild documentation is available? Do some research on the shop that did it and find out if they produce good results.
For records, in non-rebuild cars motor specific records are more valuable since it is the Achilles's heel of the car. So what if there's brake and suspension records since it came off the lot, what good will that do you when the motor could've had several tow-in incidents, de-flooding services and keeps throwing CEL codes?
Also. It really needs to be said around here, but even though a Rotary-Specific compression test tells you a lot, it won't let you know one of your main Eccentric shaft bearings is 5000 miles from going south. (Or other vital problems really)
(TLDR, The RX-8 is predictable in everything but what makes it special, and knowing knowing down to the last hour Rain-x was applied won't do you any good when you get the surprise 4500$ motor quote)
Last edited by Motakai; 03-28-2018 at 12:40 AM.
03-28-2018, 12:01 AM
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So you'd pass on a 20K mile car with figures in the high 8s 1 owner and FSH just because it hasn't been rebuilt? Personally I wouldn't but to each their own I guess, but I appreciate your point of view.
If I restrict my purchase to only cars with a rebuild (and one with full documentation and from a reputable shop) I'll still be shopping for one two years from now. Would I love to find that 2007 with 50K one owner from new, 5K on a rebuild from a decent shop with stack of receipts showing even the air freshener they bought on the way home from the dealership the day they got it - you bet your *** I do, but will I - not a chance.
This has been an on going search for a while now, its ramped up in recent weeks hence why I have ended up here but I've been watching the market in my area and the perfect scenario doesn't exist. I'm going to have deviate from that perfect car and I'm trying to figure the best way to do so.
If I restrict my purchase to only cars with a rebuild (and one with full documentation and from a reputable shop) I'll still be shopping for one two years from now. Would I love to find that 2007 with 50K one owner from new, 5K on a rebuild from a decent shop with stack of receipts showing even the air freshener they bought on the way home from the dealership the day they got it - you bet your *** I do, but will I - not a chance.
This has been an on going search for a while now, its ramped up in recent weeks hence why I have ended up here but I've been watching the market in my area and the perfect scenario doesn't exist. I'm going to have deviate from that perfect car and I'm trying to figure the best way to do so.
03-28-2018, 12:07 AM
#1461
Smoking turbo yay
Motaki, Thank you for input, problem is things are slim pickings, I've cast my net wide across the interwebz (not to say I didn't miss one) and there are a grand total of 3 09+ RX8s within a 250-300 mile radius of my location and all 3 are autos. Its not that I don't want a S2 or even that I can't afford one, I just quite simply can not find one.
I wont be buying any without a compression test so hopefully that will likely save me some pain going forward, hopefully avoid the crap motor anyways scenario. I know the 04 suffers from first of the bunch syndrome but the only significant difference I've really seen is the starter. I'd take a properly maintained 04 with test results over a 06 or 07. Maybe the R3 will be in the future.
I wont be buying any without a compression test so hopefully that will likely save me some pain going forward, hopefully avoid the crap motor anyways scenario. I know the 04 suffers from first of the bunch syndrome but the only significant difference I've really seen is the starter. I'd take a properly maintained 04 with test results over a 06 or 07. Maybe the R3 will be in the future.
Like said, expand your search radius, but do know that S2 can be a bit more pricey than S1.
I was leaning/wanting a GT due to the leather and heated seats, but again its lower on the list of priorities than a healthy engine and maintenance records.
From what I understand there should be no difference (outside of the seats) ride wise between the GT and T (moon roof is a non negotiable need) or were you stating for the S2.
From what I understand there should be no difference (outside of the seats) ride wise between the GT and T (moon roof is a non negotiable need) or were you stating for the S2.
As for moonroof, be careful. It's great to have when the sun is out, but if you are a tall dude and/or if you want to do AutoX, I would recommend an 8 without a moonroof. I am not that tall(5'9") and I think I might have to be a bit picky when buying a helmet for AutoX because the moonroof takes away like 2" of headroom.
Service Records are not the be-all end-all. They tell you how the car was treated certainly, it'd tell you if it's seen a winter, and it'd tell you if the owners treated the car like crap, which can lead to headaches later on.
For the record, under no circumstance would I touch a car that doesn't have records of the rebuild. Period. Not even if compression results are mint. No rebuild records means you have no way of knowing the quality of the rebuild, it might have 10k on the rebuild but it could've been put together like crap and will last another 3k miles no matter how good you are to it. ALTHOUGH, if full rebuild documentation is available? Do some research on the shop that did it and find out if they produce good results.
For records, in non-rebuild cars motor specific records are more valuable since it is the Achilles's heel of the car. So what if there's brake and suspension records since it came off the lot, what good will that do you when the motor could've had several tow-in incidents, de-flooding services and keeps throwing CEL codes?
Also. It really needs to be said around here, but even though a Rotary-Specific compression test tells you a lot, it won't let you know one of your main Eccentric shaft bearings is 5000 miles from going south. (Or other vital problems really)
(TLDR, The RX-8 is predictable in everything but what makes it special, and knowing knowing down to the last hour Rain-x was applied won't do you any good when you get the surprise 4500$ motor quote)
For the record, under no circumstance would I touch a car that doesn't have records of the rebuild. Period. Not even if compression results are mint. No rebuild records means you have no way of knowing the quality of the rebuild, it might have 10k on the rebuild but it could've been put together like crap and will last another 3k miles no matter how good you are to it. ALTHOUGH, if full rebuild documentation is available? Do some research on the shop that did it and find out if they produce good results.
For records, in non-rebuild cars motor specific records are more valuable since it is the Achilles's heel of the car. So what if there's brake and suspension records since it came off the lot, what good will that do you when the motor could've had several tow-in incidents, de-flooding services and keeps throwing CEL codes?
Also. It really needs to be said around here, but even though a Rotary-Specific compression test tells you a lot, it won't let you know one of your main Eccentric shaft bearings is 5000 miles from going south. (Or other vital problems really)
(TLDR, The RX-8 is predictable in everything but what makes it special, and knowing knowing down to the last hour Rain-x was applied won't do you any good when you get the surprise 4500$ motor quote)
You'd think my old Accord V6 is reliable, but I could lose sleep over the timing belt randomly snapping on me(even happened to someone with a newer one with only 5000 km on the clock, though that was a lemon) or the VCM screwing up my piston rings...
03-28-2018, 12:39 AM
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So you'd pass on a 20K mile car with figures in the high 8s 1 owner and FSH just because it hasn't been rebuilt? Personally I wouldn't but to each their own I guess, but I appreciate your point of view.
If I restrict my purchase to only cars with a rebuild (and one with full documentation and from a reputable shop) I'll still be shopping for one two years from now. Would I love to find that 2007 with 50K one owner from new, 5K on a rebuild from a decent shop with stack of receipts showing even the air freshener they bought on the way home from the dealership the day they got it - you bet your *** I do, but will I - not a chance.
This has been an on going search for a while now, its ramped up in recent weeks hence why I have ended up here but I've been watching the market in my area and the perfect scenario doesn't exist. I'm going to have deviate from that perfect car and I'm trying to figure the best way to do so.
If I restrict my purchase to only cars with a rebuild (and one with full documentation and from a reputable shop) I'll still be shopping for one two years from now. Would I love to find that 2007 with 50K one owner from new, 5K on a rebuild from a decent shop with stack of receipts showing even the air freshener they bought on the way home from the dealership the day they got it - you bet your *** I do, but will I - not a chance.
This has been an on going search for a while now, its ramped up in recent weeks hence why I have ended up here but I've been watching the market in my area and the perfect scenario doesn't exist. I'm going to have deviate from that perfect car and I'm trying to figure the best way to do so.
Last edited by Motakai; 03-28-2018 at 12:55 AM.
03-28-2018, 12:48 AM
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Oh gotcha, I thought you were saying you'd only take a rebuild only, now I understand that makes more sense. The way I am leaning is towards finding the lower mileage well cared for one with original motor which checks out good, IMO low miles tends to mean less owners, more care and better history not to mention better overall condition of the car in general.
I did extend my search to about 500 miles (though it becomes a little more difficult at that point since not all the places support that large a radius (I used a few different zip codes to try and compensate), I found 4 more S2s, 2 autos and finally 2 MTs, but neither are appealing, one is quite over priced even by S2 standards and the other is too cheap with some supposedly 'simple issue(s)' and both look like they are out of the Fast and the Furious.
I did extend my search to about 500 miles (though it becomes a little more difficult at that point since not all the places support that large a radius (I used a few different zip codes to try and compensate), I found 4 more S2s, 2 autos and finally 2 MTs, but neither are appealing, one is quite over priced even by S2 standards and the other is too cheap with some supposedly 'simple issue(s)' and both look like they are out of the Fast and the Furious.
03-28-2018, 01:18 AM
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Oh gotcha, I thought you were saying you'd only take a rebuild only, now I understand that makes more sense. The way I am leaning is towards finding the lower mileage well cared for one with original motor which checks out good, IMO low miles tends to mean less owners, more care and better history not to mention better overall condition of the car in general.
I did extend my search to about 500 miles (though it becomes a little more difficult at that point since not all the places support that large a radius (I used a few different zip codes to try and compensate), I found 4 more S2s, 2 autos and finally 2 MTs, but neither are appealing, one is quite over priced even by S2 standards and the other is too cheap with some supposedly 'simple issue(s)' and both look like they are out of the Fast and the Furious.
I did extend my search to about 500 miles (though it becomes a little more difficult at that point since not all the places support that large a radius (I used a few different zip codes to try and compensate), I found 4 more S2s, 2 autos and finally 2 MTs, but neither are appealing, one is quite over priced even by S2 standards and the other is too cheap with some supposedly 'simple issue(s)' and both look like they are out of the Fast and the Furious.
03-28-2018, 10:52 AM
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Skip to the bottom for direct links to the two manuals:
Here is the search from CL:
https://nh.craigslist.org/search/cta?query=rx8&search_distance=200&postal=03064&min _auto_year=2009
Nothing in a 200 mile radius, can't search larger than that, but I have picked a few other zip codes that are a 100 miles plus from me and it makes no difference, also going 200 miles north or east of me involves an ocean or border :D
I did find this one out in PA:
https://scranton.craigslist.org/cto/...532401636.html
This is the autotrader search:
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/Mazda/RX-8/Nashua+NH-03064?zip=03064&startYear=2009&numRecords=25&sortB y=relevance&firstRecord=0&endYear=2019&modelCodeLi st=RX8&makeCodeList=MAZDA&searchRadius=500
All four listed has autos and the 3 with pictures I have verified has such.
Cars.com:
https://www.cars.com/for-sale/searchresults.action/?mdId=21794&mkId=20073&page=1&perPage=20&rd=500&se archSource=GN_REFINEMENT&showMore=true&sort=releva nce&stkTypId=28881&yrId=20201&zc=03064
3 autos, again verified per pic.
There is one manual but IMO its way over priced even for a S2: https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...3389/overview/ and I'll take a hard pass on the neon/LEDs
Kbb.com
https://www.kbb.com/cars-for-sale/cars/mazda/rx-8/?distance=500&year=2009-2020
again both autos
True car:
https://www.truecar.com/used-cars-fo...archRadius=500
Again both autos
https://scranton.craigslist.org/cto/...532401636.html
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...3389/overview/
If anyone has any leads on anything or at better places to search I'm all ears. I have also searched FB but I get the same only autos for S2s
Sorry missed that part of your prior post, I think I have found the two you reference in NJ/NY but they are both autos, or maybe they are different cars and I didn't see anything about one in Manchester but I will double check again. Yes we have a little snow, but it is spring and IMO sports car selling season is underway.
OK I have found the two you mentioned, appears neither have a moonroof, I can forgo the leather but the moonroof is kind of a sticking point. But I will add cargurus to my list of search engines to check.
Here is the search from CL:
https://nh.craigslist.org/search/cta?query=rx8&search_distance=200&postal=03064&min _auto_year=2009
Nothing in a 200 mile radius, can't search larger than that, but I have picked a few other zip codes that are a 100 miles plus from me and it makes no difference, also going 200 miles north or east of me involves an ocean or border :D
I did find this one out in PA:
https://scranton.craigslist.org/cto/...532401636.html
This is the autotrader search:
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/Mazda/RX-8/Nashua+NH-03064?zip=03064&startYear=2009&numRecords=25&sortB y=relevance&firstRecord=0&endYear=2019&modelCodeLi st=RX8&makeCodeList=MAZDA&searchRadius=500
All four listed has autos and the 3 with pictures I have verified has such.
Cars.com:
https://www.cars.com/for-sale/searchresults.action/?mdId=21794&mkId=20073&page=1&perPage=20&rd=500&se archSource=GN_REFINEMENT&showMore=true&sort=releva nce&stkTypId=28881&yrId=20201&zc=03064
3 autos, again verified per pic.
There is one manual but IMO its way over priced even for a S2: https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...3389/overview/ and I'll take a hard pass on the neon/LEDs
Kbb.com
https://www.kbb.com/cars-for-sale/cars/mazda/rx-8/?distance=500&year=2009-2020
again both autos
True car:
https://www.truecar.com/used-cars-fo...archRadius=500
Again both autos
https://scranton.craigslist.org/cto/...532401636.html
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...3389/overview/
If anyone has any leads on anything or at better places to search I'm all ears. I have also searched FB but I get the same only autos for S2s
Sorry missed that part of your prior post, I think I have found the two you reference in NJ/NY but they are both autos, or maybe they are different cars and I didn't see anything about one in Manchester but I will double check again. Yes we have a little snow, but it is spring and IMO sports car selling season is underway.
OK I have found the two you mentioned, appears neither have a moonroof, I can forgo the leather but the moonroof is kind of a sticking point. But I will add cargurus to my list of search engines to check.
Last edited by jakejm79; 03-28-2018 at 11:06 AM.
03-28-2018, 11:48 AM
#1466
Smoking turbo yay
If anyone has any leads on anything or at better places to search I'm all ears. I have also searched FB but I get the same only autos for S2s
Sorry missed that part of your prior post, I think I have found the two you reference in NJ/NY but they are both autos, or maybe they are different cars and I didn't see anything about one in Manchester but I will double check again. Yes we have a little snow, but it is spring and IMO sports car selling season is underway.
OK I have found the two you mentioned, appears neither have a moonroof, I can forgo the leather but the moonroof is kind of a sticking point. But I will add cargurus to my list of search engines to check.
Sorry missed that part of your prior post, I think I have found the two you reference in NJ/NY but they are both autos, or maybe they are different cars and I didn't see anything about one in Manchester but I will double check again. Yes we have a little snow, but it is spring and IMO sports car selling season is underway.
OK I have found the two you mentioned, appears neither have a moonroof, I can forgo the leather but the moonroof is kind of a sticking point. But I will add cargurus to my list of search engines to check.
If you want an S2 with moonroof, you have to have the leather, since only GT trim had the moonroof option, and even then, some GTs aren't equipped with it from what I have seen. It will be hard to find.
03-28-2018, 11:53 AM
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OK that explains things a little, I guess that means if I end up with a S2 it will be something with both things I want (leather and a roof), but I'm remaining realistic and given the better choice of S1s over S2s I can be more picky and make sure I get a good one - or that's the plan.
03-28-2018, 12:10 PM
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Agreed, hence why the moonroof is the only real requirement. I've done plenty of interior swaps before on other cars so totally comfortable with the idea, does anyone know if the S1 touring for example is prewired for power heated leather seats, in the past I've had to add the wiring so that's something I am totally comfortable with but was just curious. TBH its more the heated part rather than the leather part that I want, but from what I recall they are packaged together or at least commonly found together. I have added aftermarket seat heaters in the past tho (de skinning and re skinning the seats) so I guess that is always a possibility.
03-28-2018, 12:35 PM
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The S2 base model is also pre-wired for everything the GT has. If you're requirement is a sunroof than your cutting down the grand majority of S2's ever made. Only a small portion of GT trim (The only trim I THINK, that had the sunroof) were made. ALSO: Use AutoTempest to search for cars. It combines most of the car listing onto one website.
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03-28-2018, 12:47 PM
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And yeah, not a lot of S2 has moonroof, but retrofitting one isn't really an option, either. You are right, GT is the only trim that has the moonroof as an option, and not every GT has it.
03-28-2018, 12:50 PM
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I have looked at the wiring manual before, and not everything is pre-wired. The audio system wiring, for example, are different. And then there is the halogen and HID low beams(and the auto adjustment and washers that come with HIDs).
And yeah, not a lot of S2 has moonroof, but retrofitting one isn't really an option, either. You are right, GT is the only trim that has the moonroof as an option, and not every GT has it.
And yeah, not a lot of S2 has moonroof, but retrofitting one isn't really an option, either. You are right, GT is the only trim that has the moonroof as an option, and not every GT has it.
03-28-2018, 12:57 PM
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I have looked at the wiring manual before, and not everything is pre-wired. The audio system wiring, for example, are different. And then there is the halogen and HID low beams(and the auto adjustment and washers that come with HIDs).
And yeah, not a lot of S2 has moonroof, but retrofitting one isn't really an option, either. You are right, GT is the only trim that has the moonroof as an option, and not every GT has it.
And yeah, not a lot of S2 has moonroof, but retrofitting one isn't really an option, either. You are right, GT is the only trim that has the moonroof as an option, and not every GT has it.
The other thing to consider is that the moonroof kills your headroom by what? 2-2.5 inches (As a guy who's 6ft1, I wouldn't fit with the moonroof without uncomfortably slouching in the seat) My friend who's 6f5 barely drives his 8 because of the moonroof in his car... he either has to do mock-Igor, or literally stick his head out the roof.