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Adoniscastaneda0 05-30-2014 11:36 PM

Low idle problem
 
Ok so ever since I got this car I've had an idle problem. it mostly goes really rough and low after driving it hard for about 10 mins and if I turn it off and try to turn it back on after that it won't start until after about 10 mins of trying. Engine shuts off when I come to a stoplight/sign because it's too low to keep it from dieing at a stop I shift it into neutral and rev the car until I move again. I checked my coils and changed my plugs and wires and also cleaned my throttle body. I'm hoping it's not a compression problem but if it is I wanna make sure exactly what it is so I won't get ripped off. Might rebuild the engine myself with a couple other ppl. Anyone know how to run a compression test the right way or where to get it tested for cheap?! Please help I love this car and I really wanna fix it and not sell

tza0001 05-31-2014 09:43 AM

To do a compression test you need a tester…Do you have a tester? Notice that rotary engines do not use the same tester with piston engines. I suggest taking the car to a dealer/rotary specialist and let them do it.

RIWWP 05-31-2014 11:53 AM

This link jumps to a post talking all about the compression test, why you need it, and why you need to have it done at a dealer: https://www.rx8club.com/new-member-f...4/#post4533733

The post after that is all about how to interperet the compression scores.

Stubbs 05-31-2014 12:02 PM

You can get a general sense of the health of the motor with a regular compression tester. It's not as accurate as a rotary specific test but it'll tell you if you have a bad motor.

Procedure:
Drive the car around the block a few times to get it warmed up, then pull the wheel and pull out the leading plugs on the front and back housing and disconnect the e-shaft sensor. Get a standard compression tester and pull the schrader valve out of the end of the hose and install the hose in the front housing. Have an assistant hold the throttle open and crank the engine over while you watch the compression tester. You should see three distinct bumps as each rotor face goes by; the bumps should be even. Repeat on the rear rotor. If you see two low bumps followed by one higher or just one bump you likely have a bad seal in the motor. If the bumps are even then re-install the schrader valve and repeat the test but note the pressure. Anything under 98 PSI indicates worn seals, and is the bottom end of Mazda's acceptable range. The engine will start and run fairly reliably down to 75 PSI though.

This video shows the procedure on a RX7 with a good front rotor and a bad rear rotor.

Adoniscastaneda0 06-01-2014 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by Adoniscastaneda0 (Post 4603334)
Ok so ever since I got this car I've had an idle problem. it mostly goes really rough and low after driving it hard for about 10 mins and if I turn it off and try to turn it back on after that it won't start until after about 10 mins of trying. Engine shuts off when I come to a stoplight/sign because it's too low to keep it from dieing at a stop I shift it into neutral and rev the car until I move again. I checked my coils and changed my plugs and wires and also cleaned my throttle body. I'm hoping it's not a compression problem but if it is I wanna make sure exactly what it is so I won't get ripped off. Might rebuild the engine myself with a couple other ppl. Anyone know how to run a compression test the right way or where to get it tested for cheap?! Please help I love this car and I really wanna fix it and not sell

How much do they charge at the mazda dealers for a compression test?

dannobre 06-01-2014 01:09 PM

Usually around $120...any more and they are ripping you off ;)

Bigger problem is finding a dealer that has a tester....a lot don't have the correct Mazda testeranymore

RIWWP 06-01-2014 01:09 PM

As low as $90, as high as $250. Typically it's in the $120-$180 range, $150 is really common. If you have a warranty on the engine and the engine fails, and you are covered by the warranty, then the compression test will be free

Adoniscastaneda0 06-01-2014 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by RIWWP (Post 4603570)
As low as $90, as high as $250. Typically it's in the $120-$180 range, $150 is really common. If you have a warranty on the engine and the engine fails, and you are covered by the warranty, then the compression test will be free

Mines an 04 and the warranty is long gone but I'm almost desperate to find the problem id probably spend nomore than $250 and that's money going to MAYBE find the problem :p

dannobre 06-01-2014 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by Adoniscastaneda0 (Post 4603572)
Mines an 04 and the warranty is long gone but I'm almost desperate to find the problem id probably spend nomore than $250 and that's money going to MAYBE find the problem :p

If they can't find the problem for $250...they have no business fixing this car...thats at least 2.5 hours of diagnostic time.....

Fixing it is another matter....remans and rebuilds cost a minimum of $3K and up


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