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Kat73 12-28-2017 06:57 PM

Help! Why is it continuing to flood!
 
Car flooded after dead battery. Changed battery, bought new starter and cleaned plugs. Deflooded and got car started. Warmed temp up before turning off. Won’t restart! Seems to be flooded again. Repeated deflood procedure and can get started, even drive down the road. Turn off and again won’t start!!😡 Sounds like it’s flooded again. Any ideas? Will buy new spark plugs tomorrow to try. Plugs, wires and coils were changed in March. Any ideas of what else could be going on?

jer2911 12-28-2017 09:36 PM

Search for warm/hot start issues. There are several threads concerning this issue. You can find a lot of information in the sticky section at the top of the new member forum. (Have a compression test to confirm the engine is good)

Loki 12-29-2017 01:06 AM

It won't restart while still warm from running, or much later when it has cooled down?

If the first, have a compression test, if the second, check your spark plugs for signs of coolant (thick green deposits). Let us know what you find.

Kat73 12-29-2017 06:36 AM

Yes, it won’t restart while still warm. Once you turn it off you have to do the deflood procedure to get it started again. My husband took the plugs off three times while trying to deflood and there was gas and oil on them but nothing green. All of this started after a dead battery (and a husband who knows nothing about the rotory) tried to get it running again. Could low compression just start all of a sudden like that? The car is a 2005 with 93,000 miles.

jer2911 12-29-2017 08:01 AM

Good morning Kat
The engine that is in my avatar is the 3rd one to go into the silver car in my sig. It's my daughter's car and it stalled two houses up and she coasted into the driveway and called me. I went through the same procedure your husband is doing to no avail. I put the car on a rollback and sent it to the dealership to get a compression test and it failed (mid 5's to low 6's) that second engine had just over 90k. I would believe a compression test would be your next step. You could have another issue but the compression test will be your base on where to go. The dealership should be able to uncover any issues with the engine while performing the compression test.

jer2911 12-29-2017 08:11 AM

Mazurfer has a classified post that you can read that just posted referring to his 8

BigCajun 12-29-2017 08:51 AM

A compression test is always a good idea, but mine has been failing for a long time and still runs good with only some delay at hot starts..
Do you know if the coils are good?
Are they good quality coils or eBay knockoffs?
A coil tester can eliminate that possibility.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...956311acb9.jpgAlso, ask your husband to ensure that all of the coils and plugs have the wires 'snapped' on tight, and be sure the wires are in good condition and not pinched or binding against anything.
Also be sure the plugs are OEM laser irridium, with 2 for leading and 2 for trailing.
Can't use cheap stuff on these ignition components.

Kat73 12-29-2017 01:55 PM

He bought new plugs this morning and problem solved! It starts right up. So I guess a bad flood can ruin the plugs.
Thanks guys for all of your help!! This forum has been so helpful and saved me so much money over the last few years!! Great place for any Rx8 owner for sure. ��

Mazurfer 12-29-2017 07:42 PM

Compression issues could start like that.
Honestly...instead of trying the deflood over and over, I'd be more interested in getting it running one more time.......Then drive it around a little while, park it overnight and see how it starts up in the morning. If it starts okay cold, but not when warm, then you really need to get that compression checked.
Mine will start just fine after about 45 minutes to an hour after being turned off warm.

Mazurfer 12-29-2017 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by BigCajun (Post 4847289)
A compression test is always a good idea, but mine has been failing for a long time and still runs good with only some delay at hot starts..
Do you know if the coils are good?
Are they good quality coils or eBay knockoffs?
A coil tester can eliminate that possibility.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...956311acb9.jpgAlso, ask your husband to ensure that all of the coils and plugs have the wires 'snapped' on tight, and be sure the wires are in good condition and not pinched or binding against anything.
Also be sure the plugs are OEM laser irridium, with 2 for leading and 2 for trailing.
Can't use cheap stuff on these ignition components.


Boy, that sounds familiar!!!! :crying:
I've put mine up for sale, but am still on the fence about putting another motor in it and keeping it.

BigCajun 12-30-2017 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by Mazurfer (Post 4847357)
Boy, that sounds familiar!!!! :crying:
I've put mine up for sale, but am still on the fence about putting another motor in it and keeping it.

I'm already planning to replace the engine with a reman, I can't bear to let it go yet.
I love it now more than when I first bought it.
When I'm no longer able to work on it myself I'll give it to my daughter, she wants it.

Redrotarycar 01-01-2018 09:14 PM

I would check the coils, grounds and compresion test it.
Post if you fix it.

Good luck..


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