Dan Morey

Hey guys recently bought an 2005. Mazda rx8,but have run into a problem it doesn’t want to start, I have replaced EVERYTHING fuel and spark related, but when cranking over (and when I can get it to start) gas drips out of my exhaust. Has good compression, cylinder 2 run super rich.

Miatadvr

I’m not as knowledgeable as most on here but have you tried resetting the fuel trims?

Also, what fuel are you running?

Loki

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Sounds like the injectors are miswired. Common mistake when replacing the engine.
Did it work fine at some point, and then broke, or you bought it like this?

Ermintrudew

Is this phenomenon of excess fuel? gasoline burning does not go away very fuel consumption.

Dan Morey

the car ran ok when I got it it had a cylinder 2 mis fire so I tried to put sea foam in the gas and red line it a few times to get it Thur I did that than car started to smoke bad and started going Thur gas quick like 1/4 tank in about 5 mins so I put all new coils and plug and all new injectors fuel pump fuel damper and now the car will start every once in a blue moon and when it dose it hose Thur gas very quick can’t drive it any where

Dan Morey

the car puts out so much feel it’s not starting unless I pull the fuel pump fuse but last night I wasn’t Thur all the wires on car found the the 1st i’m injector pigtail wires were bearing crossed so I buy new pigtail put it on and no difference so I checked my spark and only my leads are sparking not my trailing???????HELP

Dan Morey

Can o2sensors if gone bad make your car not start??

Loki

iTrader: (1)

Only the leads should be sparking, that's fine.
How long did you drive with a misfire?

There are a few options here:
- injectors miswired. I can't understand what you mean about the pigtail. You said you had them replaced, which is when they would have become miswired. It's really easy to mix up the primaries and secondaries. That would cause your current no start problem, separate from the original misfire problem.
--- check your injector positions and wiring against the proper wiring. You can google for that.

- loss of compression due to driving with a misfire for a while and destroying the cat and the engine
--- get a compression test

- some kind of massive air leak. See if it does better if you unplug the MAF.

In any case, get the spark plugs out and clean the gas off them before trying to start again after you perform any fix.




Can you write in real English though? It's really hard to understand and help.

Dan Morey

I drove it like that for a few days but Compression check was done already and all wiring was checked last night the car was running good when I got it until I did the red line with sea foam in the gas didn’t have any fuel issues till I did that?

Dan Morey

Why do the trailing spark plug not fire?

Dan Morey

And my car is empty on my exhaust it was hollowed out

Loki

iTrader: (1)

Trailing ignition is not required in startup.
I think the original misfire issue is separate from this no start issue, and in attempting to fix the misfire (coils, injectors, fuel pump, etc), the new issue was introduced. That's the only thing that makes sense to my mind.
Can you retrace your steps of what all was touched during the work?

Are there any OBD codes set?

Dan Morey

Everything I mentioned were the only things that were touched and what I had to take apart to get to them I did for goer because a lot of things I looked up said maf sensor going bad I changed that to but when I pull the plugs out the are soaked in gas to and black Sut on them? And the plugs are new

Loki

iTrader: (1)

Right, so it's flooding out, which means too much fuel. Since we're talking about startup there aren't too many ways for that to happen (given that the spark plugs are firing):

- it's firing the wrong injectors (either r1 for r2 and vice versa, or secondary instead of primary), which means they're wired incorrectly OR the incorrect injector is in the primary position. They are not all the same.

Since you say only R2 is running rich like this, that further confirms it one of the R2 injectors. What is R1 doing?

- there is way, wayyy too much fuel pressure, but this is highly unlikely or even possible.



I know you checked the injectors, but all the signs still point there.

Are the coils wired to the correct spark plugs?

Dan Morey

I believe so leads are on bottom and trailing on top first coil lead second trail third lead fourth trail and according to the diagram I found injectors are correct and I put them back the way they were when I took them out.cyclinder 2 is near fire wall correct?

Dan Morey

And the car is doing the same thing it was doing when the problem started before I took any injectors out at all all I did before this happened was put sea foam in my gas and red line the rpms than car started acting up

Dan Morey

Could the Bare wires that were crossed together on the primary first injector cause this problem to stay happening after being fixed?

Dan Morey

The only codes I had before this happened was cylinder 2 misfire and heat o2sensore

furansu

Verify injector wiring is correct:

Dan Morey

Yes that is the same diagram I found

WinnipegSE3P

You put seafoam in your gas???? You're not supposed to put seafoam in your gas...

Dan Morey

Yes I put sea foam in my gas why are you not supposed to I mixed oil with it when I did it so it would mess with drying anything out

WinnipegSE3P

Seafoam is supposed to be put into the engine thru the vacuum hose, never in your gasoline. Was this seafoam meant for gas use or is it the normal one?

Dan Morey

The sea foam Is used for gas

Dan Morey