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Melocolon 01-31-2015 08:37 AM

Help! 2005 rx-8 won't start after storing
 
Hello everyone.I've had my RX8 since 2006 and being in the military have had to store it multiple times. This last week I pulled it out of a 4 month storage stay. I added a couple oz of marvel mystery oil to the fuel and took out the spark plugs and added a couple oz to the engine as well and then let it sit for 3 days. As I said I have started it after storing at least 5 times before but this time it is being extremely difficult. I have a brand new battery and I'm supporting with a shop charger. I took out each spark plug and cleaned it very well. I even removed the air intake and we tried misting fuel while cranking it to shock it to start and nothing. When we check the spark on the plugs by removing and grounding them when we crank it all I get is the first spark and then nothing.

Any recommendations or your thoughts will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

p.s. I find it really odd a new member cannot post something to the troubleshooting forum for 'a little while'. I imagine troubleshooting is one of the more dominant reasons for people joining and posting to a forum such as this so it really doesn't make any sense. ( I'm sure it's to control spam, phishing etc. but it irks me).
Thanks!
Melo

dannobre 01-31-2015 09:16 AM

Did you check that you have spark and fuel pressure?

We're your plugs wet when you pulled them?

They might be oil fouled?. ...

If it's a MT try pull start it....that's the easiest way if its flooded

BigCajun 01-31-2015 09:21 AM

1st spark then nothing leads me to believe you have either faulty coil(s), bad connections, or faulty grounding.
Be sure your wires are snapped on tightly, and your ground is not corroded, & check spark again.
That's all I can think of.
Good luck!

logalinipoo 01-31-2015 09:23 AM

Clean the ess

BigCajun 01-31-2015 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by logalinipoo (Post 4660667)
Clean the ess

Hey log, a dirty ESS can prevent spark?

logalinipoo 01-31-2015 09:41 AM

Yes. If it doesn't know the crank angle/engine rpm it wont give fuel or spark.

BigCajun 01-31-2015 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by logalinipoo (Post 4660672)
Yes. If it doesn't know the crank angle/engine rpm it wont give fuel or spark.

Thanks.:)

Melocolon 01-31-2015 12:18 PM

Didnt check fuel pressure. They were wet with oil when i pulled them . If they are oil fouled they shoukd work after we cleaned em no? Its an AT so no pull start. Thanks for the reply.


Originally Posted by dannobre (Post 4660663)
Did you check that you have spark and fuel pressure?

We're your plugs wet when you pulled them?

They might be oil fouled?. ...

If it's a MT try pull start it....that's the easiest way if its flooded


Melocolon 01-31-2015 12:20 PM

Will check both. How do i check if the coil is good?


Originally Posted by BigCajun (Post 4660666)
1st spark then nothing leads me to believe you have either faulty coil(s), bad connections, or faulty grounding.
Be sure your wires are snapped on tightly, and your ground is not corroded, & check spark again.
That's all I can think of.
Good luck!


Melocolon 01-31-2015 12:21 PM

Ok. Thanks!

QUOTE=logalinipoo;4660667]Clean the ess[/QUOTE]

Melocolon 01-31-2015 08:02 PM

Removed the ESS and cleaned it. It wasnt very dirty actually. Reset the
ESS after reinstalling and it still didnt work. I will check the coil next. Any other ideas?

dannobre 01-31-2015 08:10 PM

Is the fuel pump coming on when you turn on the key? You can jump it in the underhood fuse box...there is a connector in the firewall/drivers corner that turns it on full time.

BigCajun 02-01-2015 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by Melocolon (Post 4660700)
Will check both. How do i check if the coil is good?

There's a cheap spark tester, looks like a spark plug, that you hook up to your wires to check if they're firing.

Melocolon 04-19-2015 02:30 PM

Hey RX-8 Fam. The Red Dragon is still DEAD! Have tried all suggestions thus far. Even replaced the coils and am still getting 1 spark on first start and then nothing else at all, when I crank it after that. My bro in law is a mechanic (not rotary) and even he is baffled.

Any other ideas? Could it be the ECU? Something that controls the firing/spark must not be working but what... Thanks Team.


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