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garcia hotspur 06-24-2019 09:48 PM

ADVICE on this RX-8
 
Hello! Skip to the bolded question if you don't want any background.

First a little background about me and what I'm looking for.

I've been working on my own cars for 17 years, I've done a lot of research on the RX-8 and I've decided it fits my "needs".

I'm looking to spend about $5-8k total. I don't mind buying a car that needs cosmetic fixes if the engine is healthy.

Here are the kinds of scenarios I'm looking for:

Manual, ideally sport model, not Yellow or red (except the black cherry color), ideally not a 2004.

1) car has a bad engine, but the body is straight (no major dents, or scratches) for $1-3 k. I spend another ~$3k on a reman engine and drop it in myself.

2) car has a recent rebuild, reman, or just low miles with good compression, but needs some paint correction or a respray. Buy car for $3-6k I spend $1-3k on paint.

3) take out a small loan and get something that doesn't need anything.. Forum member Steve Dallas has a beautiful example:
https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8s-sale-w...k-mica-269686/

I'm located in California Bay Area, and I'm not afraid to travel or use a transportation service.


Finally the specific question:

https://sandiego.craigslist.org/esd/...917559504.html

Does this car seem to have a respray or body work? The owner says it doesn't to his knowledge but there are some chips, cracks, and "spots" on the car that seem suspicious. He says he tried to use touch up paint on the chips. The cosmetics overall are terrible.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...8042e65141.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...b4649eb143.jpg
chip above headlight
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...19ee51f801.jpg
chip between suicide doors
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...a67e26786f.jpg
"spots" on fender
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...e8a88fac48.jpg
crack on rear bumper near license plate
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...03a6a19265.jpg
compression test at mazda near el cajon
It looks like a tack ricer car, but I don't mind removing all that stuff and getting back to stock.The mods are only cosmetic, which is a plus, and the engine seems great (compression numbers 8.3 - 8.7). I know he's asking too much, but I think he'll budge on the price after a while.

What do you all think? Any advice is Greatly appreciated. Thank you!

CaymanRotary 06-27-2019 02:02 PM

Out of curiosity, how old is that compression test? Also, 2006 isn't much better than a 2004 so I wouldn't pay a premium for that. Any other problems with it other than the paint and that super ugly front body kit?

Edit: just noticed he said original color was silver so he definitely had it resprayed.

Ricky SE3P 06-27-2019 02:11 PM

Honestly, bodywork done RIGHT can get VERY expensive. My advice? Get something that the motor is FUBAR'd but the body is excellent and drop a reman into it (upgrade to quality full aluminum radiator, aluminum coolant overflow tank, and a few other misc. upgrades to protect the new investment/motor from premature failure should a life-support component fail due to age and wear.

garcia hotspur 06-27-2019 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by CaymanRotary (Post 4891740)
Out of curiosity, how old is that compression test? Also, 2006 isn't much better than a 2004 so I wouldn't pay a premium for that. Any other problems with it other than the paint?

I had the same question, but you can actually see the date of the compression test on the doc. It's 6-19-2019. Other than paint, it needs new tires. My main concern is that it's been resprayed / has had body work. I suspect it's been in an accident and damaged on the right side, front, and rear, and that's why the paint is chipping and cracking in those areas. I'm no paint expert, though. I just don't want to deal with bad body work and any problems that may come up as a result of a collision.

garcia hotspur 06-27-2019 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by Xero Ryuu (Post 4891741)
Honestly, bodywork done RIGHT can get VERY expensive. My advice? Get something that the motor is FUBAR'd but the body is excellent and drop a reman into it (upgrade to quality full aluminum radiator, aluminum coolant overflow tank, and a few other misc. upgrades to protect the new investment/motor from premature failure should a life-support component fail due to age and wear.

I'm definitely leaning towards this idea. Though I know a great body shop that would do an excellent respray for $3-4k.

CaymanRotary 06-27-2019 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by garcia hotspur (Post 4891742)
I had the same question, but you can actually see the date of the compression test on the doc. It's 6-19-2019. Other than paint, it needs new tires. My main concern is that it's been resprayed / has had body work. I suspect it's been in a damaged on the right side, front, and rear, and that's why the paint is chipping and cracking in those areas. I'm no paint expert, though. I just don't want to deal with bad body work and any problems that may come up as a result of a collision.

It's definitely been repainted. You can check the vin on Carfax and see if it's ever been in an accident. Bad paintwork isn't a problem if the engine and transmission in good shape. Take it for a test drive and make sure you go through all the gears and make sure it has good acceleration. You should be hitting 60 mph from standstill in about 6 seconds if you floor it.

If all checks out offer him $5000. Thats what I would pay for it.

Ricky SE3P 06-27-2019 03:43 PM

You can for the most part see paint and body work/damage/repairs.

You CAN'T see inside the motor (unless you take it out and open it up)

Play it smart, play it safe. Get a clean chassis, never repaired/resprayed and put a new (remanufactured) heart in it.

CaymanRotary: $5,000 I would expect a clean body and good engine, this is not a $5,000 car.

CaymanRotary 06-27-2019 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by Xero Ryuu (Post 4891753)

CaymanRotary: $5,000 I would expect a clean body and good engine, this is not a $5,000 car.

I disagree as long as transmission good. This engine put out great numbers on a very recent compression test plus it has very low milage. I think $5,000 reasonable.

Ricky SE3P 06-27-2019 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by CaymanRotary (Post 4891758)
I disagree as long as transmission good. This engine put out great numbers on a very recent compression test plus it has very low milage. I think $5,000 reasonable.

Transmissions here in the states can be purchased for $500 or less.

I frequent craigslist/offerup/letgo amongst other platforms, and I've messed with Rx8's long enough to know there isn't anything special about this car.

Motor is good (not perfect but good), body needs love. I wouldn't pay more than $4,500 at most for that car, probably closer to $4,000.

Ive seen clean condition 2009 Rx8's recently with less than 100k on the chassis with good compression getting posted with a starting asking price of $6,200. Probably negotiate down to the mid $5,xxx range.


Honestly Steve's car is a great deal if you're willing to work on getting it over here. Alternatively find something within 300 miles of where you live and go pick it up.

CaymanRotary 06-27-2019 04:58 PM

Well, around where I am cars are more expensive. Still think that guy can get $5k for it with little effort. I like the expensive upgrades ($500 BHR coils!) but I doubt this seller would take $4500 since he has it listed for $7k. Sometimes worth it if you like that particular vehicle. RX8s in good condition becoming very rare to find used. I'd just buy a used front bumper and take that thing to Maaco for the $500 paint special.

garcia hotspur 06-27-2019 08:07 PM

Hahaha. I really appreciate all the thoughts and advice you two!

sinkas 06-30-2019 07:07 PM

That Blue is hard to enjoy

johnareval0 09-12-2019 07:39 AM

If you cannot pay for a car report, you can go to VinCheck.info for a free vehicle history report. However, I think it only works for North American-made vehicles and to units with identification number containing 17 characters.

NotAPreppie 09-12-2019 08:20 AM

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...ea890bf9bd.gif


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