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L337fpc 08-30-2010 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by alnielsen (Post 3693046)
From the pictures, it looks like it bends toward the back seat. Is it straight across?

It its 100% straight across.

L337fpc 08-30-2010 02:16 PM

I need dyno numbers from invasion08, Scarslett, treceb...what were your numbers? I need to finish updating the first post with the results.

Brettus 08-30-2010 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by markryan22 (Post 3692934)
I think mines set at 6 or 7 right now. If I want more I'd prob upgrade the tubro so I don't kill my engine again..

If a stock Greddy turbo will make 250-260 comfortably on a MT then it will make 220-230 easily on an AT . Just need to wind up the BOOST mon !

Also : you won't need the fuel pump - but a good upgrade all the same .
Suggest you mount an extra rad where the 2nd oil cooler would go to get a handle on engine temps .

HockeyRX-8 08-30-2010 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by L337fpc (Post 3693386)
I need dyno numbers from invasion08, Scarslett, treceb...what were your numbers? I need to finish updating the first post with the results.

should just make a new thread in the multi-media section

L337fpc 08-30-2010 03:19 PM

i was gonna do that when i made the video. but as of right now, its gonna be a bit for me to sit down for a few hours and chop it all up...and figure out the order.

HockeyRX-8 08-30-2010 03:21 PM

true that....also, if you want, I have the printout of my hp curve uploaded on my computer....do you want to include the printouts in the thread?

invasion08 08-30-2010 03:21 PM

To save you time do not even put mine in there. Something is wrong with my car, and i need to get it fixed.

L337fpc 08-30-2010 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by HockeyRX-8 (Post 3693507)
true that....also, if you want, I have the printout of my hp curve uploaded on my computer....do you want to include the printouts in the thread?

PM me a link to your graph. I want to make a nice clean thread soon.


Originally Posted by invasion08 (Post 3693508)
To save you time do not even put mine in there. Something is wrong with my car, and i need get it fixed.

:pat:

Brettus 08-30-2010 03:29 PM

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Whos turbo setup was this and how did it go ?

Attachment 255073.


Great pics BTW

L337fpc 08-30-2010 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 3693525)
Whos turbo setup was this and how did it go ?

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...y/IMG_9562.jpg.


Great pics BTW

that was jim's rx8 that he is toying with. he is in search of an ems system.

Brettus 08-30-2010 03:36 PM

What's wrong with an AP ?

So it didn't go on the dyno ?

L337fpc 08-30-2010 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 3693535)
So it didn't go on the dyno ?

Nope. Jim has major plans for that car. But from what I heard...he is very interested in using an AP to tune it. His car is setup with a custom turbo and NX nitrous system. We'll see what it does in the future.

Brettus 08-30-2010 03:40 PM

Yeah - sounds interesting . Is Jim on this site ?

HockeyRX-8 08-30-2010 03:41 PM

I was really hoping to see that 8 make a pull :(

L337fpc 08-30-2010 03:49 PM

He has an account, but he is really really busy lately.

09Factor 08-30-2010 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by markryan22 (Post 3692923)
My 04 AT Greddy Turbo got 183 HP and 172 T, my fuel injectors and pump need to be upgraded plus i really need better cooling. Temps were getting up to 236 degrees.... not good. Jeff said with that and another tune could be easy 200 HP.

I'm just happy it runs so smooth and kicks you back in the seat lol.

Congrats! :icon_tup:
I agree with Jeff, there' room for improvement in those #'s.

ShellDude 08-30-2010 07:33 PM

PING PING -- I detonated, we think twice when we got back on the dyno after everyone left.

We had thought earlier in the day that I may have a fuel pump problem... @ WOT I was running dangerously lean right around 6500-7000 RPM. It'd be fine up to that point but right around 6500 it was shooting up real bad.

So we had the dyno operator and JPR Jim construct a improv fuel pressure gauge and thinking we'd see a fuel pressure loss. Well pressure held solid at 60PSI all the way up to the point fuel leaned out again and then there was this all to subtle *twink* sound. Made a couple more changes to the map and tried again... ran even richer up to 6500 and wouldn't you efen know it, it *twinked* again.

Current thought is bad injector. Car doesn't feel any different but it was a smidge disturbing to hear detonation. Will have to keep a close watch over things as I await injector cleaning/replacement.

That 180 pull wasn't at full boost either.

Rotr8 08-30-2010 07:40 PM

Mine pinged about a half dozen times and became very predictable with the tirtiary ports opening, then it went ping one more time and chunk ca chunck chunck,,, new motor reving was the next sound the car made about a month later

ShellDude 08-30-2010 07:56 PM

hopefully two is my limit and next time I hear a ping is from a microwave dinner!

Brettus 08-30-2010 07:59 PM

Have run to 13.5 at 13psi when I experienced the dreaded ping . Below that was OK .
What was your AFR . You suspect one of the P2 injectors ?

markryan22 08-30-2010 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by ShellDude (Post 3693901)
PING PING -- I detonated, we think twice when we got back on the dyno after everyone left.

Damn, how was the car running home? I'm going up to KDR tomorrow so I'll be able to get the engine cover for you. I'll see if they can get upgraded injectors, and a estimate on the new cooling layout Jeff suggested.

sinned2545 08-30-2010 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by L337fpc (Post 3610907)
2) Hockey RX-8 - NA - 196whp

RAY HOLDING IT DOWN FOR TNC!!!!!!!!!! :bowdown:

HockeyRX-8 08-30-2010 11:02 PM

haha...thanks Dennis! I should also mention that my name Torquey lives up to it's reputation as my car produced 1800 WTQ!!!!! :lol::lol::lol::lol:

MazdaManiac 08-31-2010 01:34 AM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 3693927)
Have run to 13.5 at 13psi when I experienced the dreaded ping . Below that was OK .
What was your AFR . You suspect one of the P2 injectors ?

He doesn't have P2s - it is a 4-port auto.
His AFR was 11.7:1.
I think the AFR reading was an aggregate of a very lean rotor and a very rich rotor, caused by a secondary injector that is under-performing.
I was commanding 8.5:1 to get that 11.7:1. The other 4-port auto turbo was not so problematic in this regard (though it would sweep from 190° to 236°on a single dyno pull).

Brettus 08-31-2010 01:56 AM


Originally Posted by MazdaManiac (Post 3694255)
He doesn't have P2s - it is a 4-port auto.
His AFR was 11.7:1.
I think the AFR reading was an aggregate of a very lean rotor and a very rich rotor, caused by a secondary injector that is under-performing.
I was commanding 8.5:1 to get that 11.7:1. The other 4-port auto turbo was not so problematic in this regard (though it would sweep from 190° to 236°on a single dyno pull).


I guess the only practical way to check that is flow testing the injectors . Come across this before ? Seems unusual given the accuracy of the stock injectors


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