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RotaryResurrection 10-16-2014 11:25 PM

NEGATIVE: stigma8 / Horace Parkinson / Nakeisha Estrada
 
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This person went by the forum name stigma8. His real name is apparently Horace Parkinson and he is from Ridgewood/Brooklyn NY area. He uses his (apparently) girlfriend Nakeisha Estrada's paypal account and email address nakeishaestrada@gmail.com and his email address is horaceparkinson@gmail.com .

I've had 3 transactions with this joker, none of them went smoothly, and I received much less than described in 2 of them.

The first was a rear iron I bought a couple months back for $140 plus my own shipping label. He was hard to deal with and slow at shipping, but eventually the part did arrive. IT was terribly packed in a box twice the size of the part with no padding in the box and was hanging out of a box when it arrived. It was not in as-described condition as there was more-than-average surface wear, but it was fair enough to let it slide. When I complained about the pisspoor packaging he told me to shut up, told me that I sound like his ex gf, and next time I should "send packaging material" if I didnt like his.

(I originally had a few pics of the damaged box but eventually deleted them).

The second was the 2 rotor housings for $350, they looked decent in his picture but it was not very detailed so I knew I was taking a chance. When they showed up one of them had significant damage from previous apex seal failure that made it not usable. I only took a chance buying from him because of the high demand for them and how hard they are to find.

RotaryResurrection 10-16-2014 11:27 PM

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When I pointed out the damage discrepancy, he tried to claim that IRP built an engine with those housings, that he bought and later tore down. I later talked to Ihor from IRP and he said that he did not build any engine with those housings, he did not sell stigma8 any engine at all, but he did sell stigma8 ONE housing "out the door" and it did not look like either of the 2 stigma8 sold me. There is also a post by stigma8 praising Omar at OJ imports in texas for the awesome engine he built plus the fact that you do not have to supply a core to him. I think the guy bought a shitty rebuild from some random person, bought some more parts, tried to make 2 out of 1, failed, sold all the failed junk parts to me and other people on the forum, and bought the rebuild from Omar/OJI.

Stigma8 was also offering another "good" set of irons for sale. He sent me some pics full of flash glare without much detail, but they looked okay from a distance. He offered to give me one of the irons he was selling for free in exchange for the bad rotor housing, and since I needed irons anyway I bought the other 2 for 300 more. Again this was really a little too high for 2 irons, but if they were in good condition it would be worthwhile because I really need the parts badly.

I paid for the irons on sep 18. October rolls around and I ask where the hell my irons are. Stigma replies in a PM oct 1 that "the irons went out this week" because he was out of town and his GF "forgot" to ship them. I ask for tracking and am ignored. A couple days later on Oct 6 I file a paypal claim. Suddenly my irons show up a couple of days later Oct 9. The date on the shipping label is Oct 7. Hmmm.

RotaryResurrection 10-16-2014 11:29 PM

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Here is what showed up.

RotaryResurrection 10-16-2014 11:33 PM

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more of the awesome packaging.

RotaryResurrection 10-16-2014 11:38 PM

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pics of the "good" irons. Irons are damaged on the faces, partially from shipping but mostly from previous rebuild attempts/apex seal failure. 2 of the 3 of them are not reusable. They may not even be salvageable by resurfacing.

RotaryResurrection 10-16-2014 11:44 PM

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One of them even has the beginnings of someone's failed porting attempt.

RotaryResurrection 10-16-2014 11:46 PM

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exterior damage in shipping.

RotaryResurrection 10-16-2014 11:55 PM

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After I filed the paypal claim, I received the following communication from him.


Originally Posted by Horace Parkinson 10-10-14
Don't try to scam me brother u clearly recived your items and now u r trying to get money back. As far as pricing I already gave u a discount on the parts u ordered so don't try to get money u don't deserve from this. It ain't gonna happen again. I tried to help u out before but now u r getting out of hand.

I respond:


Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection
Receiving a discount on more junk to replace the junk you already sent still does not make it alright. Two of the three irons you sent are scratched to shit BY THE SAME APEX SEALS THAT DAMAGED THE JUNK ROTOR HOUSING YOU SENT ME.

Sending me your leftover junk parts from your failed build does not equate to "helping me out". If anyone has concerns about a scam, it is me. So far I have paid you $650 for 5 "good" parts (2 rotor housings, 3 irons) and of those 5 only 2 were actually usable (1 housing, 1 iron). So now $650 for 2 parts that are actually worth about 300 by themselves does not look like you've helped me very much does it?

He responds again.


Originally Posted by Horace Parkinson
Don't try to tell me I sent u junk parts. These are parts u will happily use on your builds and u just trying to get money u don't deserve my housings were sent out perfect fine, if u wanna go there u bought used parts not brand new ones . Those edge u claim to be damaged are fine just the way they r u are clearly nip picking because u didn't get your package as fast as u wanted to. U ain't gonna scam me and get my money. Your company might have done it to open of my friend with their engine builds but it ain't gonna happen to me. Be a man and stop bitching.

At that point I had no more time to waste on him so I just stopped responding.

As of today paypal reviewed the claim and found that I am entitled to a refund upon return of the items, so I'll send them out and we'll see what happens. That's more than I could have hoped for, but I guess it was hard for them to ignore all of my documentation versus this retard's methods of communication and selling.

DVerdeyen 10-17-2014 01:33 AM

+1 to this. I ordered a part from him two weeks ago and then noted that this seller was sketchy. He continued to ignore my tracking info requests but would gladly present me with new pictures of parts I may be interested it.

Then when I saw RIWWP close his thread and warn about his potential scams, I opened a paypal claim as well. Same thing, my package just happened to show up three days later with the label showing he sent it two days before.

In response to me opening a paypal claim he responded with, "hey man I received ur package y is the paypal claim still open?"

Considering he sent me something I'm not sure if his heads on right.

Besides that I'm actually surprised he sent me the correct part because all I was going on was a schematic with the part I was purchasing circled. Came with no wrapping or anything to protect it but in the end I suppose I at least got what I paid for.

RIWWP 10-17-2014 06:42 AM

Thanks for the thread RR, glad to see you should be able to get something back.

As a heads up to everyone else, the staff originally removed Stigma8's right to PM, to force him to do business out in the open. However his response to this was basically that "the rules don't apply to me" and "I can bypass the rules by getting another member ID". So I banned him permanently.

Not just from this, but because it was the final straw considering the difficulties I have had in the past with him violating classifieds rules about multiple threads and other advertising methods.


Fortunately, with the new member rules he can't just "simply get a new ID" because of the post count and waiting period to re-sell on the classifieds, however he may still attempt it at some point. So keep an eye out for any repeating parts shipped by the same name under a different ID, and report it if you see it.

RotaryResurrection 10-21-2014 09:12 PM

Yay for me, paypal actually ruled in my favor and refunded the $300 for the junk irons. But, I had to spend $60 sending them back first. To my knowledge the seller never responded other than what was written above.

That *still* doesnt cover the $175 I lost on the one junk rotor housing he sent me before that, though.

DVerdeyen 10-21-2014 09:37 PM

He continued to harass me through my personal email which PayPal gave him. He told me to get a real mans car (Porsche GTS).. Guess he doesn't know I own a Porsche Carrera S as well:evil_laug

RotaryResurrection 10-21-2014 09:38 PM

lulz

RIWWP 10-22-2014 10:37 AM

Yeah, his PM communication to me was loaded with that type of amusing "insult" that only an immature e-thug makes. They always show their true colors when they are faced with someone that doesn't just bow to their wishes.

DVerdeyen 10-22-2014 04:24 PM

"e-thug" lolol:yelrotflm

RotaryResurrection 10-23-2014 09:44 AM

He'll be a few hundred short this month so I bet he has a quarter tank of gas in his new e-class right about now lol.

paimon.soror 10-23-2014 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection (Post 4637753)
He'll be a few hundred short this month so I bet he has a quarter tank of gas in his new e-class right about now lol.

Aw now he cant buy those Gator Boots, with the pimped out Gucci suit

WaitingforFI 10-31-2014 09:34 AM

Good info..
That reminds me:

RotaryResurrection 10-31-2014 10:46 AM

I'mma show you somethin' rookie,
press that button
the trunk went "uh-uh"
and all of the sudden
4 15's didnt see no wires,
and then I heard BOOM from the amplifiers

:bowdown:

thehulk623 12-10-2014 09:29 PM

stigma is back
 
He tried to sell me a motor. He is going by the member id of tjrxx88. He is claiming to have a ported motor for 2g. Thank god i read your threads and recognized his email.

RIWWP 12-10-2014 09:32 PM

Hmm, that ID isn't showing up on RX8Club member lists.

Were you contacted on this forum with that ID? When? Do you mind forwarding me the PM if so?

RotaryResurrection 12-10-2014 10:19 PM

That should be the ported motor he claimed to have gotten from OJ imports after he sold me all his junk parts.


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