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domino-s 04-21-2008 08:01 AM

BAD: Robert Hamilton
 
I purchased a Greddy ECU from Robert Hamilton, robert.hamiltoniii@us.army.mil

He did not ship nor did he refund the money, Paypal claim cannot refund the full amount and it looks like i'm getting stuck with the bill.

I know this sounds awkward but should I contact the US Army and let them know that this person has commit fraud?

He was a ebay verified member and paypal verified but that means nothing I guess. You would think that since they are verified and commit a crime that they can press criminal charges and follow the paper trail back.

What does verified mean then? any two bit crook can get verified and have zero repercussions.

He has a RX-8 and I hope that nobody here get's scammed by him

spokenstone 04-21-2008 07:21 PM

Find out his unit and get in touch with his commanding officer. You'll get your money back.

chrism 04-22-2008 03:27 PM

what was his name here?....where is the thread?

Jedi54 04-22-2008 03:29 PM

^^^ what Chris said...

Falken 04-22-2008 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by spokenstone (Post 2419731)
Find out his unit and get in touch with his commanding officer. You'll get your money back.

Easier said than done.

TeamRX8 04-22-2008 04:40 PM

he could be in the brig, he could have been suddenly deployed, he might even have been killed in action ... :dunno:

then again, no such person may even exist in the military, you may have been scammed from the start ...

zoom44 04-22-2008 05:03 PM

why dont you check into the legitamacy of that site (in case its a clever phish or copy of some kind ) with the army

https://www.us.army.mil
and how hard it is to get an email from there if you arent army or DA

then ask how to contact that person

alz0rz 04-22-2008 05:23 PM

it's also not hard to spoof an email address... even less for a scammer.

Razz1 04-22-2008 11:20 PM


Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 2421794)
he could be in the brig, he could have been suddenly deployed, he might even have been killed in action ... :dunno:

then again, no such person may even exist in the military, you may have been scammed from the start ...

oh my gosh! that could never happen.

domino-s 04-23-2008 06:44 PM

I checked the email header information and tracked it back to the U.S Military.

Gave me misinformation (ie: fake tracking #), the package never arrived and he never bothered to email me back in any regard.

I don't know which user he is, but here is his ebay account: http://myworld.ebay.com/ebaymotors/rghamilton3/

you see he did buy a turbo timer and other rx-8 equipment, so there's a good chance he has a turbo rx-8.

This is the largest rx8 forum, so I'm assuming that he's lurking on here. It's unfortunate to pass judgement on him, especially a person that serves in the military where core values are extremely important.

I sent him another email trying to give this one last try to resolve this, but I highly doubt results since it's already been 5 weeks

jones75254 04-23-2008 09:49 PM

^^There are bad seeds in every garden man. Military is no exception. My advice is keep digging. Unless he has a totally fictitious identity from which he used to obtain a bank account and then create online accounts with paypal and ebay, he had to have used valid bank/credit card info to become verified. Im willing to bet that is indeed his real name. Turn over enough rocks and you will be surprised what will surface. He is counting on you just to throw up your hands and forget about it...dont do it. If it were me i would find out if he was/is actually in the military and if you can verify that, then finding out where he is located/based out of is just a matter of spending time on the phone. Trust me, i use to work for the government doing security background checks on military personnel for security clearances, tracking them down can be time consuming but very doable.

Charles R. Hill 04-23-2008 09:55 PM

Then there is always the option of only doing business with people of good repute around here.

JAY04GT_MT 04-24-2008 12:18 PM

These are his mods: "RO_JA Formula 1 Rims, R-Magic Body Kit, AxialFlow Shortshifter, Cobb AccessPORT, Greddy T618z Turbo @ 7PSI, Greddy Airnix Intake, Greddy Type 31c Intercooler"

This is his AIM and rx8club username: wgnfolife
This is his myspace: http://www.myspace.com/leftsidegreen

He lives in Fort Carson, CO and is 20 years old. Born December 13, 1987.
He's from Dallas/Fort Worth. He did join the Army.

He is active on http://coloradomazdaclub.com by the username of RX 8 Ghost.

This is his photobucket: http://s122.photobucket.com/albums/o276/WGNFOLIFE/

Hope this helps.

jones75254 04-24-2008 02:32 PM

^^There you go. A few clicks and presto. The way to get at this guy is to go through those around him. Forum members, family members, friends, co-workers, superiors, ect. No one likes to have people above them know of their dirty laundry, also, if you pester those around him they will in turn pressure him to rectify the situation, out of responsiblity or just the fact they get tired of you pestering them.

domino-s 04-24-2008 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by JAY04GT_MT (Post 2425515)
These are his mods: "RO_JA Formula 1 Rims, R-Magic Body Kit, AxialFlow Shortshifter, Cobb AccessPORT, Greddy T618z Turbo @ 7PSI, Greddy Airnix Intake, Greddy Type 31c Intercooler"

This is his AIM and rx8club username: wgnfolife
This is his myspace: http://www.myspace.com/leftsidegreen

He lives in Fort Carson, CO and is 20 years old. Born December 13, 1987.
He's from Dallas/Fort Worth. He did join the Army.

He is active on http://coloradomazdaclub.com by the username of RX 8 Ghost.

This is his photobucket: http://s122.photobucket.com/albums/o276/WGNFOLIFE/

Hope this helps.

Jay, before I confront him. I want to make sure this is the same guy. Can you PM me the details?

* Note to self, Don't mess with Jay

joshj84 04-24-2008 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 2426374)
we have a winner ... :cwm27:

Thats actually not Robert :) his name is Shane. Atleast I believe I'm right on that.


Look OP get in contact with me via email joshj84@gmail.com I'll help deal with this I'm one of the presidents on CMZC.

JAY04GT_MT 04-24-2008 09:02 PM

PM'd.

Greek Racer 8 04-25-2008 12:44 AM

I'll find out whats up. I'm Greek8 on CMZC. I know him and will get in contact with him tomorrow for you.

And WTF Josh what are you doing on 8club. You own a MS3.

joshj84 04-25-2008 03:30 AM


Originally Posted by jones75254 (Post 2425815)
^^There you go. A few clicks and presto. The way to get at this guy is to go through those around him. Forum members, family members, friends, co-workers, superiors, ect. No one likes to have people above them know of their dirty laundry, also, if you pester those around him they will in turn pressure him to rectify the situation, out of responsiblity or just the fact they get tired of you pestering them.


Jones no offense but if you or anyone starts bugging my forums members there's gonna be a pissed off me :) I already said get ahold of me and I'll help with this issue as I run that forum. I -will- get this resolved so again lets stop posting public things about this guy and get ahold of me maybe eh?

joshj84 04-25-2008 05:19 PM

So nobody wants to resolve this?

huzer21 04-25-2008 06:58 PM

He's at Army NTC for the next couple of weeks. I'm not Army, so I don't know what that really means, but I don't know if he has internet access while he's away. I haven't met him personally, but he's part of the local forums and seems like a stand up guy.

HiTMaNN 04-25-2008 07:12 PM

I love threads where people start doing investigations it is awesome!

wgnfolife 04-25-2008 08:27 PM

I thought this issue was resolved. I never gave a fake tracking number just the one I was issued. I would never scam someone because I wouldn't want that to happen to me. I'm sorry it came to this but I believe this was taken way to far. No need to get personal over a business transaction that didn't work out.

jones75254 04-25-2008 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by joshj84 (Post 2427173)
Jones no offense but if you or anyone starts bugging my forums members there's gonna be a pissed off me :) I already said get ahold of me and I'll help with this issue as I run that forum. I -will- get this resolved so again lets stop posting public things about this guy and get ahold of me maybe eh?

LOL, well no offense, but I nor anyone else here gives a rats ass if you are pissed or not. Fact is YOUR forum member screwed one of ours, so, we will do what the hell we need to do to get our boy taken care of, if it means draggin his name through the mud or harrassing every single forum he's a member of, so be it.

You have no clue how far the rx8club peeps will go to protect their own, so i suggest you do less talkin here and more action there........

jones75254 04-25-2008 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by wgnfolife (Post 2428650)
I thought this issue was resolved. I never gave a fake tracking number just the one I was issued. I would never scam someone because I wouldn't want that to happen to me. I'm sorry it came to this but I believe this was taken way to far. No need to get personal over a business transaction that didn't work out.

Huh??? Domino-S care to explain?


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