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chancejat 04-05-2008 11:50 PM

damn i just noticed this thread....ive actually been waiting like 3 weeks for him to ship me his stock headers....should i file a claim in paypal.....he hasnt responded to any of my recent pm's

chancejat 04-06-2008 12:09 AM

he just pm'ed me back....i guess the headers are shipped...should be here tues or weds....ill let yall know....i got worried for a sec.... i hate waiting on paypals 1 month refund....

06carbon8 04-06-2008 12:14 AM

yeah, headers are shipped, you have my number in case they dont show by tuesday. jones, i pmed you back, let me know if what i said works for you. ddyou, you have email.

Kel Rx8 04-06-2008 04:30 PM

okay this weird but I am sure there are 2 sides to every story.
good luck with all parties involved

dropdeadYOU 04-06-2008 04:56 PM

no offense but maybe you have the wrong email because I totally didnt get anything from you and your in my contacts list.

marcagarcia@gmail.com OR
dropdeadmarcus@gmail.com

dropdeadYOU 04-07-2008 03:34 AM


Originally Posted by dropdeadYOU (Post 2392143)
no offense but maybe you have the wrong email because I totally didnt get anything from you and your in my contacts list.

marcagarcia@gmail.com OR
dropdeadmarcus@gmail.com

Actually, I would appreciate it if you contacted me through paypal so its on the record with them. thank you.

alz0rz 04-07-2008 09:01 PM

met him today for a quick sale of clear corners.. was a cool stand up guy.. freaking tall.

just read this thread now and i believe something else has to be going on..

my .02

HiTMaNN 04-07-2008 10:16 PM


Originally Posted by alz0rz (Post 2394373)
met him today for a quick sale of clear corners.. was a cool stand up guy.. freaking tall.

just read this thread now and i believe something else has to be going on..

my .02

How would meeting him for a quick sale allow you to make a judgment on his business practices? I don't know him nor have I done business with him but after reading both sides of the story he was clearly in the wrong and I am glad he rectified the situation.

alz0rz 04-07-2008 10:27 PM


Originally Posted by HiTMaNN (Post 2394534)
How would meeting him for a quick sale allow you to make a judgment on his business practices? I don't know him nor have I done business with him but after reading both sides of the story he was clearly in the wrong and I am glad he rectified the situation.

took my post the wrong way :P, i was just thinking that there might be another side to the story.. something i should have picked up in the last few posts :)

dropdeadYOU 04-08-2008 04:40 AM


Originally Posted by HiTMaNN (Post 2394534)
How would meeting him for a quick sale allow you to make a judgment on his business practices? I don't know him nor have I done business with him but after reading both sides of the story he was clearly in the wrong and I am glad he rectified the situation.

I would like to say that he hasnt rectified anything with me and never actually contacted me. Also it remains to be seen if he rectified anything with jones. I PM'd him, emailed him and posted here since his last post on this thread and he hasn't messaged me back in any of those forms. Its funny, when he wanted to sell me the rear protege lip he responded to my emails the same day. If I remember I will call him today.

I also have a paypal claim open for this transaction and he has not made any attempt to reply to the messages sent to him through that.

jones75254 04-08-2008 06:50 AM

If you call me employing someone from that area to have to actually go to his house and pick up a bumper that is rightfully mine when he was suppose to send it to me over 3 weeks ago rectified, then you got ur heads screwed on the wrong way. The pickup is suppose to go down today, so we will see if he keeps his word to at least be there to give the bumper to my guy. So, until that bumper is in my guys hands, im not counting on antyhing.

There are NO 2 SIDES to these stories, they are clear cut cases of extreme negligence, nothing less. Brian himself will tell you this, as he has admitted to such on numerous PM's to me. I wont post them just because i believe his rep has suffered enough and will continue to feel backlash from this.

If there were 2 sides, dont you think he would come on here and present his side?? Use your heads. Just because you met him at a meet or bought some $50 clear corners off him, doesnt mean you know shit about his ethical code. He has shown a pattern on this negligence and that alone tells the story.

chrism 04-09-2008 12:37 PM

so did you get it?

klepto 04-09-2008 01:03 PM

Wow...I met the guy once never spoke to him....then he had an accident. Then his GF ??? told everyone about the accident and assured that business that is pending would be handled once he gets better. She did request everyone who was doing business w/him to email her (which she provided her email). Has anyone tried contacting the GF directly maybe?

Brian...I really hope you do what is right. Seems like allot of people were sympathetic to what happened to you and paitant as well. Don't go dicking everyone...do what's right and also I think it is only right you state your side of the story. Right now your rep is taking a beating of a life time...

IMO I think Brian should just give back the $$$ at this point. If it is spent then just ship or make arrangements for the parts he did business on to get delivered/picked up.

Man up Brian...man up.

klepto 04-09-2008 01:06 PM

FYI uf you paid via Paypal you are protected through Paypal and if you used a linked credit card through Paypal you are also protected through your credit card provider. If you paid bank/wire transfer or check you can dispute this with the bank directly. In any event unless you handed over money (w/no documentation) then you are covered. If you handed over money or a money order I'm sure you have documentation. With the proper documentation you can file a civil law suit in small claims court. You can be awarded upto $5,000.00. But be prepared to provide documentation to prove what happened. If he doesn't show up you get a default judgment. Now I am not sure if this works in an interstate situation but if anything you may want to look into it.

06carbon8 04-09-2008 03:51 PM

yes, the bumper was picked up yesterday. however, paypal also decided the dispute in his favor. which of course they would, i never once tried to say i wasn't wrong. i know this is entirely my fault. so basically jones got the bumper for free. kind of shitty he took the bumper AND the money but nothing i can do i guess. now i just need to take care of ddyou with the rear lip. chance, i'm assuming the header arrived? i never got a call from you so i'm guessing everything went ok.

jones75254 04-09-2008 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by 06carbon8 (Post 2397805)
yes, the bumper was picked up yesterday. however, paypal also decided the dispute in his favor. which of course they would, i never once tried to say i wasn't wrong. i know this is entirely my fault. so basically jones got the bumper for free. kind of shitty he took the bumper AND the money but nothing i can do i guess. now i just need to take care of ddyou with the rear lip. chance, i'm assuming the header arrived? i never got a call from you so i'm guessing everything went ok.

Wrong.

The Paypal claim closed yesterday (shows right there in paypal email brian) after my guy had to go pick up the damn bumper. Just because Brian SAID he was gonna be there for the transfer, i wasnt gonna withdraw the claim beforehand because he has history of lying to me over and over again, so his word means nothing. When my guy called me and told me he got the bumper, i logged onto paypal and it showed that the claim closed in my favor that very day. And i DID NOT RECIEVE ANY MONEY. Paypal DOES NOT reimburse you simply becuase the claim was decided in your favor. What they do is suck any $ the seller has in their account in effort to use THAT $ to reimburse the buyer. And i paid straight from my bank account, no credit card so i couldnt get a charge back. Paypal sent me a message saying claim was in my favor but due to Brian not having enough $ in his account to reimburse the claim, i dont get shit. The only way i would have gotten any money back is if he had it in there for them to take. It was his dumbass fault for ignoring paypal's emails re: this. Not my responsibility. I told him i would drop the claim when the bumper was secure, he's the one who ran out of time, not me. I wasnt about to withdraw a damn thing until i knew that bumper was comign to me. His fault he waited so long and it so happened the claim closed on his ass. Is out of my hands now.

Brian WTF do you mean FREE!!! I paid you the $ for it. You took the money and spent it!!! How is that FREE!!!! I wish paypal could somehow squeeze you for the money, you deserve it. Due to all this your paypal priviledges are pretty much OVER. Unless you want to put some more money in there form which they will just take from you to pay off your claims. Hope it was worth it.

Brian, do you want me to post the PM's you sent me?? Let me remind you the gist of just a couple..........

you, "I will pay your $ back, AND i will send the bumper, i have no need for it" that was few weeks ago

and another just a little while ago, "Im gonna give you the bumper AND $100 to make up for the shitty way i handled this"

Remember those???? Of course you do.

Brian, you should do NOTHING but concentrate on making good with the other guys you screwed. Do anything but that and i will post every single BS PM you have ever sent. I have abs no sympathy for you. You handled all this like a gutless, spineless coward. Doesnt matter what anyone else thinks, i know it and most importantly, you know it.

jones75254 04-09-2008 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by klepto (Post 2397494)
Then his GF ??? told everyone about the accident and assured that business that is pending would be handled once he gets better. She did request everyone who was doing business w/him to email her (which she provided her email). Has anyone tried contacting the GF directly maybe?

I got ahold of her via email, she failed twice at shipping the bumper (she inherited the burden in lieu of the accident) when she said she would. I totally didnt mind that at all, she would had been under lot of pressure. I didnt feel the need to further drag her into her man's mess more than she already had so i never again tried to contact her after the first couple weeks.


Originally Posted by klepto (Post 2397494)
Man up Brian...man up.

MEN honor their word.:icon_no2:

chrism 04-09-2008 06:23 PM

wow.......so completely wow

RedefineRX8 04-09-2008 08:02 PM

^^ yeah... seriously... unreal.

9krpmrx8 04-09-2008 08:59 PM

Shit man, at least you got the bumper. Otherwise he may have had another "accident".

jones75254 04-09-2008 09:22 PM

Well, bout the only thing i DO believe at this point is that he indeed was in a very unfortunate accident, and i extended plenty of options as well as time for recovery. Is hard to believe someone would orchestrate such an outlandish lie just to buy time to honor a few online transactions, but in my line of work i have seen way worse, so, time will tell i guess.

rx8racer123 04-09-2008 10:04 PM

lies lies lies

Kel Rx8 04-09-2008 10:14 PM

what the hell is going on in here ? LOL

dropdeadYOU 04-10-2008 04:27 AM


Originally Posted by klepto (Post 2397494)
Wow...I met the guy once never spoke to him....then he had an accident. Then his GF ??? told everyone about the accident and assured that business that is pending would be handled once he gets better. She did request everyone who was doing business w/him to email her (which she provided her email). Has anyone tried contacting the GF directly maybe?

Actually he agreed to sell me the rear lip AFTER he had the accident, recovered and started posting on the forum again. So that doesnt apply in my case.

dropdeadYOU 04-10-2008 04:39 AM


Originally Posted by 06carbon8 (Post 2397805)
now i just need to take care of ddyou with the rear lip.

Then why havent you emailed me, PM'd me, or contacted me through Paypal?
I wish you would... I'm not going to beg you to speak to me or to send me something I already paid for. I'm not going to stoop to insulting you. We're both men here.

I've already been given ALL of your contact information from Jones.
You have my address. Send me the lip. Message me.

Hell, I'll give you my phone number if that'll be easier. If you're posting on here then you can easily send me a message.


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