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joshhatten@hotmail.com 08-22-2008 03:22 PM

smoking and backfiring
 
ok i just put a turbo in my r8 about 3 weeks ago.... ive had it tuned right the only thing is i haven't put a new fuel pump and fuel injectors in yet. im wondering if that would cause grey smoke and back firing or what would cause that. how can i fix the backfiring and the smoke. when it smokes it only smokes just a little bit and it when you crank it up and it backfires everytime you let off the gas. sometimes its loud and sometimes it doesnt backfire at all. help me please i need ideas

Jedi54 08-22-2008 03:24 PM

who tuned your turbo?
what kind of turbo?
what piggyback are you using; int-x, e-manage?

do you know what your AFR's are at?

dannobre 08-22-2008 03:26 PM

Tuning :) Who tuned it...what engine management.....

A bit rich is much better than too lean....

joshhatten@hotmail.com 08-22-2008 03:43 PM

its a place in tacoma washington and my ecu is a greddy emanage piggy back ultimate and wat are afrs?

joshhatten@hotmail.com 08-22-2008 03:44 PM

but wat about the smoke some of my freinds are saying that it smokes when i drive it sometimes just a little bit and the back firing wont that burn my apex seals up?

joshhatten@hotmail.com 08-22-2008 03:45 PM

its a greddy t618z turbo kit

Jedi54 08-22-2008 03:47 PM

AFR = Air Fuel Ratio.

joshhatten@hotmail.com 08-22-2008 03:50 PM

im not exactly sure right now cuz im still in the tuning process becuz i haven't put in my fuel pump and my injectors so right now its just tuned on my stock parts and their maxed out

Jedi54 08-22-2008 03:53 PM

what PSI?
the Greddy kit shouldn't be maxxing out your stock parts. The fuel pump and injectors should be able to handle it. (fuel pump definitely, injectors you can choose to swap as many people do)

Jedi54 08-22-2008 03:53 PM

the smoke is most likely because you're running really rich. (too much fuel)
I'd go back to the tuner with your issues and have him work on your fuel maps a bit.

joshhatten@hotmail.com 08-22-2008 03:55 PM

8.7 psi is the max but for some reason my boost is all over the place from 3-8000 but it ranges and thats the max

joshhatten@hotmail.com 08-22-2008 03:57 PM

shit if you could see the maps you would understand cuz right now im running about 12 and if im not mistaken thats perfect right? and the guys who did the dyno tuning they said they couldn't push my injectors anymore cuz they were maxed

dannobre 08-22-2008 04:01 PM

Boost controller?

12psi in a Greddy kit is likely asking for it......

Stick to about 8PSI ........the Turbo can't handle much more than that anyway

joshhatten@hotmail.com 08-22-2008 04:04 PM

no 12 psi on the injectors 8.7 max on the turbo but my boost is all over the place from 2cd gear on up to 5th gear and they told me not to push my car past 4th gear past 7 grand becuz i risk detonation since my injectors are already maxed

Jedi54 08-22-2008 04:07 PM

the greddy doesn't boost very well over 7.5k rpm

joshhatten@hotmail.com 08-22-2008 04:08 PM

ya ive noticed that i only get power from 5 to 7 so wat do you guys recommend i do have my boost adjusted?

Jedi54 08-22-2008 04:09 PM

tuning.
do you have a boos controller?

joshhatten@hotmail.com 08-22-2008 04:11 PM

nope but i thought they can do something with the turbo or do i have to get a boost controller?

Jedi54 08-22-2008 04:17 PM

Here are a few threads with LOTS of great info:

Definitive Greddy Turbo Fixes

Emanage works but there are much better options out there such as the AccessPort. (it's not a piggyback, it completely reflashes your OEM pcm) Here is a thread on the emanage in case you stick with it

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-major-horsepower-upgrades-93/e-manage-ultimate-success-93286/

joshhatten@hotmail.com 08-22-2008 04:19 PM

awesome man thanks

dannobre 08-22-2008 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by joshhatten@hotmail.com (Post 2608051)
no 12 psi on the injectors 8.7 max on the turbo but my boost is all over the place from 2cd gear on up to 5th gear and they told me not to push my car past 4th gear past 7 grand becuz i risk detonation since my injectors are already maxed

12-1 AFR?...Fuel pressure is close to 60PSI at the injectors. Might be a touch lean at WOT ;)

Me thinks a bit of reading is due...so you don't have a ton of problems.

Get a boost controller..it will even things out and make it more drivable.

joshhatten@hotmail.com 08-22-2008 06:01 PM

yo should i go with a maual or a electronic boost controller?

dannobre 08-22-2008 11:52 PM

my preference is an electronic one.....

Razz1 08-23-2008 01:31 PM

Turn down your boost. Get rid of the piggy back. Buy an Access Port to control the A/F, timing ect..

Jedi54 08-23-2008 01:42 PM

josh: keep us posted on how this goes. Good luck


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