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VelociRedBeast 01-30-2005 07:02 PM

Scion TC
 
anyone test drive this car yet? i looked at one today and thought it was pretty cool, especially with all the accessories you can buy for it from factory..

rx8wannahave 01-30-2005 07:14 PM

No, but I did sit in one and if I ended up not getting my 8 I would have gotten the tC, as my fall back on car, but it is a pretty nice car. I just wish it was rwd and had about 220HP, that would have been sweeeeet.

But, it's fwd, has 160HP, and weighs about the same as our 8...so it's not really fast nor can it handle too well.

VelociRedBeast 01-30-2005 07:22 PM

oh, I didn't know it was FWD..I've never driven a fwd car.. :/ I'm looking at buying a car cheaper than the 8, And my final two came down to scion and Cobalt, but the Scion wins in looks and originality so It looks like I'm heading towards that, but now the question is what accessories are out there..

RPIRX-8 01-30-2005 07:23 PM

Its kind of a tuner's dream though, which is what I think they are going for. This is the Celica replacement and that VVT-I engine can really be tuned (Apexi SAFC, Exhaust, Intake, turbos galore, etc). In fact, I just saw the Nitto tuned tC on Car and Driver TV that puts down over 500hp to the wheels.

ZoomZoomH 01-30-2005 07:26 PM

scion has a big hit with the tC, i am see it popping up all over the place now, definitely more popular than the xA or xB

Moostafa29 01-30-2005 07:26 PM

Why does the tc have more options than we do? Its a really nice car, and I'd like to have it as a daily driver, and make my 8 the project car/garage queen, but I see no reason why it came out a year after ours, and there are more options for it already.

MrH 01-30-2005 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by Moostafa29
Why does the tc have more options than we do? Its a really nice car, and I'd like to have it as a daily driver, and make my 8 the project car/garage queen, but I see no reason why it came out a year after ours, and there are more options for it already.


It has the same engine as the 4 cylinder Camry. Though the Camry doesn't exactly command a huge aftermarket, the engine really isn't anything new or complex.

The tC isn't a bad car by any means. Why anyone would want to dump a lot of money into it, I don't know. I'd take a Mazda3s hatchback over one though.

rx8wannahave 01-30-2005 07:56 PM

I hear you can get a TRD turbo fo it, right out of the factory without voiding your warranty or anything...it's a nice little car, but the FWD thing really stinks!

ZoomZoomH 01-30-2005 08:10 PM

when you pay that extra $$ for the 8 compared to the tC, part of it pays for the *superior* drivetrain layout ;)

Im_DANomite 01-30-2005 11:43 PM

TRD doesn't make a turbo. supercharger, yes. my little sister drives around a Scion tC. great little car that comes with a lot for only $16k. it's not a replacement for the celica, it's not a replacement for anything. it's an add-on. Scion itself is an add-on to the Toyota line. Toyota's plan was to market towards the younger generation w/ these "hip" affordable rides that come w/ a bunch of options. the aftermarket industry is blowing up and they figured everyone is getting into it, why not sell them something they can work with? if you noticed, Toyota is becoming the Oldsmobile of the japanese car industry. their flagship sports car is the MR-S...wtf?? Mitsubishi answered their challenge from Subaru's WRX by bringing out the EVO. Mazda brought back the rotary in the 8 as Nissan brought back the infamous "Z". Toyota doesn't have an answer to anyone right now. i guess the Celica GT-S is an answer to the new Si and RSX Type-S. but seriously, their current line doesn't excite the younger generation. if only toyota made cars like the mr2 and supra again...

not a lot comes with the car. panoramic sunroof, 17" alloy wheels, mp3/cd/radio, sport bucket type seats, turn signals built in the side mirrors. that's about it.

Mr. Ed's rx-8 01-31-2005 01:25 AM

power everything also comes standard. i originally was going to get a tC but got screwed around by the dealership. ended up spending more but i ended up with the 8 and couldn't be happier!

i will say though that it is a good little car and i would buy one in a heart beat if i could afford it. but that would just be money that i could put into the 8!!!

DreRX8 01-31-2005 07:56 AM

Actually it is a Celica replacement--because the Celica is dead now, so is the MR2. Besides Toyota was quoted saying such in evey mag. that tested the Scion tC. The TRD supercharger boost output to 200Hp; I was pushing my girlfriend to check this car out-but she is lookin at the Mazda 3 5 door.

czr 01-31-2005 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by DreRX8
Actually it is a Celica replacement--because the Celica is dead now, so is the MR2. Besides Toyota was quoted saying such in evey mag. that tested the Scion tC. The TRD supercharger boost output to 200Hp; I was pushing my girlfriend to check this car out-but she is lookin at the Mazda 3 5 door.

I am car shopping for my sister and think I am down to those two cars as well. The tC is the same price as the regular 3 not the 3s or hatchback and the 3 does not even come standard with a/c. But I believe the prices on the Mazda3 are negotiable and the tC is not. Also, I am noticing a lot more unhappy 3 owners than tC owners on their forums though. Probably won't make a decision until a couple of months, so we'll see what happens. Too bad they didn't have these cars 5 years ago.

Oh yea, it's probably cheaper/funner to mod the car yourself so I'd keep the tC mod free out the dealership.

Gambit 01-31-2005 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by rx8wannahave
I hear you can get a TRD turbo fo it, right out of the factory without voiding your warranty or anything...it's a nice little car, but the FWD thing really stinks!

I believe it's going to have an optional supercharger that will push it to 200hp. It looks like they made the celica stubbier and rounder (IMO uglier because I like the celica). Not a bad deal for what it costs though

Shocka 01-31-2005 09:05 AM

my friend has a tC, auto. Its a really nice car. My ONLY problem with the car was that its interior is not refined at all.

In the performance catagory it is easily compared to a 99-00 Civic SI. Its looks to havea decent after market, specifically from the Celica.

For the price i think it makes a great daily driver.

As for a xA i test drove it and i was def impressed. Lacks power no doubt but one fun car to drive. Not as fun as the Mazda3 but right now I would say it was a close second in my book.

Feras 01-31-2005 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by Im_DANomite
TRD doesn't make a turbo. supercharger, yes. my little sister drives around a Scion tC. great little car that comes with a lot for only $16k. it's not a replacement for the celica, it's not a replacement for anything. it's an add-on. Scion itself is an add-on to the Toyota line. Toyota's plan was to market towards the younger generation w/ these "hip" affordable rides that come w/ a bunch of options. the aftermarket industry is blowing up and they figured everyone is getting into it, why not sell them something they can work with? if you noticed, Toyota is becoming the Oldsmobile of the japanese car industry. their flagship sports car is the MR-S...wtf?? Mitsubishi answered their challenge from Subaru's WRX by bringing out the EVO. Mazda brought back the rotary in the 8 as Nissan brought back the infamous "Z". Toyota doesn't have an answer to anyone right now. i guess the Celica GT-S is an answer to the new Si and RSX Type-S. but seriously, their current line doesn't excite the younger generation. if only toyota made cars like the mr2 and supra again...

not a lot comes with the car. panoramic sunroof, 17" alloy wheels, mp3/cd/radio, sport bucket type seats, turn signals built in the side mirrors. that's about it.

i wouldnt call the z infamous...its a great car and all z's and zx's exuded a real charisma, beautiful machines.

DreRX8 01-31-2005 09:51 AM

The 3 comes standard with A/C--at least thats what the brochure says.

czr 01-31-2005 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by DreRX8
The 3 comes standard with A/C--at least thats what the brochure says.

No. It is optional, just reconfirmed it. Standard on the s though.

DreRX8 01-31-2005 10:36 AM

Ok--the S is what I was loooking at (cause that is the model that my gf is peepin). I stand corrected.

rx8wannahave 01-31-2005 03:04 PM


The TRD supercharger boost output to 200Hp
OK OK, I was wrong, a SC...what I should have said was there would be a TRD FI system for the car...lol, are all of you happy now...lol

bNguyen 01-31-2005 03:21 PM

I test drove the tC when I was in the market for another car. Off the back the acceleration feels pretty good (test drove the manual). The guy at the dealership told me to feel free to drive as I liked. I pushed it to as much as I could without having to worry about cops, but for being a FWD it's pretty good in the right turns of about 90 degrees at 45mph. I mean driving my mom's accord and the tC I felt a difference between the two and obviously a difference from my RX7. I think its a well rounded car and with the optional add-ons is nice...yeah it's like a tuner's dream car because of all the things that can be done to it.

ender_okc 02-01-2005 08:12 AM

Well I own a TC manual. and all I can say is that this car is really really nice for the price!! its probably the most fun car you can buy for 16k!!! it looks a lot nicer than it should for that price!! I have 9k miles on it and no problems. I love the sunroof too and the MP3 player is nice too, but if I had the money I would get rid if it right away to get an 8. I have test drove one a few times and absoulutly love it, but if I were to get one I would have to get it fully loaded. :) thats just me though, I will just have to save my pennies and try to get it in a couple of years :) if you have any questions on the TC just let me know.

Gambit 02-01-2005 08:26 AM

ender...have you ever driven the celica, if so how do they compare? My gf has a 2000 celica and it's pretty fun whipping around turns in it :)

ender_okc 02-01-2005 08:32 AM

I have driven a celica but it was a long time ago so I cant really compare, but the TC has more get up and go then you would think. it really suprises people when they drive it! its partly because it has 163 lbs of tourqe to go along with the 160HP. its not a bad little engine

czr 02-01-2005 08:39 AM

What mods have you done to it?


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