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WaitingforFI 03-21-2007 10:06 AM

RX8 > '07 Shelby GT
 
"Not that a regular Mustang would have faired all that much better, but the experience still left us yearning for something (anything) more refined. A Mazda RX-8, perhaps? A BMW 328i? Not only are those two infinitely better to drive, but they’re also cheaper than a Shelby GT. "
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llzjayarzll 03-21-2007 10:11 AM

some people are narrow minded. (i.e domestic car makers.)

Japan8 03-21-2007 10:25 AM

i.e. RX-8 owners

mysql101 03-21-2007 10:25 AM

btw, a friend from NJ came to visit me last weekend. He rented the Shelby GT-H.

I then let him drive my turbocharge RX-8. He said my car felt like it had more power than the Shelby, and this coming from a hard core mustang fan.

I drove both - so if mine dynos at 275 whp, the shelby felt like it was about 240 whp. Not sure if it's the weight difference or the slushbox that hurt it most.

Japan8 03-21-2007 10:38 AM

The article doesn't say the setup sucks, it says that Ford is smoking crack (or more like the people who buy the car) for charging that much for just adding the Shelby name on top of "off-the-shelf" parts available from Ford Racing. No arguments there. Some people are stupid enough to pay it for the name.... but I sure as hell wouldn't. Just pick up a regular GT with the CS (California Special) package... same bumper, hood scoop (different) and side scoops... spoiler delete... and then hit the Ford Racing site and order the parts... it even lists all the ones used on the Shelby GT and the part numbers. If you want to be a poser... you can get some racing stripes and even get the official Shelby lettering from Shelby's site. And pocket the change... or spend it on more parts like bigger brakes, bushings and a supercharger...

The article isn't saying so much that the car is horrible... it's like I said... for what you are paying you expect more. That's not the car's fault... that's Ford for pricing it like that and the dumb babyboomers who are more than happy to pay it to have a "Shelby". :rolleyes:

Get a GT and mod it. It won't say Shelby on it, but your pocket will love it and the supercharger you can buy with the change will make it seem like a much better deal.



Originally Posted by mysql101
btw, a friend from NJ came to visit me last weekend. He rented the Shelby GT-H.

I then let him drive my turbocharge RX-8. He said my car felt like it had more power than the Shelby, and this coming from a hard core mustang fan.

I drove both - so if mine dynos at 275 whp, the shelby felt like it was about 240 whp. Not sure if it's the weight difference or the slushbox that hurt it most.


I'd say weight. At least GM slushboxes are so good now that Vettes and GTO's with AT get better 1/4mi times than MT...

snizzle 03-21-2007 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by Japan8
I'd say weight. At least GM slushboxes are so good now that Vettes and GTO's with AT get better 1/4mi times than MT...

The real reason is that you have to shift before 60 (at least that was the case w/the MT GTO).

Nevermind: misred.....

zoom44 03-21-2007 10:56 AM

Every Shelby goes from Ford to Shelby's place in Vegas to have the Shelby bits added. then on to the dealership.

Ajax 03-21-2007 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by Japan8
I'd say weight. At least GM slushboxes are so good now that Vettes and GTO's with AT get better 1/4mi times than MT...

Could be the RX-8's sick first gear and final drive too. That 4.44 gear ratio with some power behind it feels retarded fast.

Japan8 03-21-2007 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by zoom44
Every Shelby goes from Ford to Shelby's place in Vegas to have the Shelby bits added. then on to the dealership.

And? they don't do anything special other than add the numbered and signed plaque to the car. :boring: The few mods can be done anywhere or even yourself. Having Shelby install them adds 0 value other than cost.

zoom44 03-21-2007 11:43 AM

no it doesnt add 0 value. thats what adds all the value- Its done at Shelby by Carrol's people.

strokercharged95gt 03-21-2007 11:48 AM

Since Ford has gotten rid of the SVT section of the company that brought things such as the lightning and the terminator Cobra, this is what ford is doing to trying to cover that portion of the market. The car is basically a repackaged GT with a few extra parts on and they jacked the price up. I doubt it will be a big seller as anyone with a brain would pay a little more for the GT-500, Saleen, Roush, or Steeda. It was a mistake to get rid of the SVT branch of ford and I wouldnt be suprised to see more repackaged junk like this from ford.

Japan8 03-21-2007 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by zoom44
no it doesnt add 0 value. thats what adds all the value- Its done at Shelby by Carrol's people.

it adds yuppie value. That's worth 0 in my book and in 15 or so years it may prove to add little to the value of the car as well (which is what some yuppie collectors hope for when they over pay for one of these... collector value).

You can get a Shelby CS6 package for a V6 Mustang... it comes with a plaque and Shelby lettering too. :cwm27:


Originally Posted by strokercharged95gt
Since Ford has gotten rid of the SVT section of the company that brought things such as the lightning and the terminator Cobra, this is what ford is doing to trying to cover that portion of the market. The car is basically a repackaged GT with a few extra parts on and they jacked the price up. I doubt it will be a big seller as anyone with a brain would pay a little more for the GT-500, Saleen, Roush, or Steeda. It was a mistake to get rid of the SVT branch of ford and I wouldnt be suprised to see more repackaged junk like this from ford.


+1

bascho 03-21-2007 12:08 PM

The Shelby GT exists because there is a sub-section of the market that has more money than brains. Anyone willing to spend over $40K for a Mustang GT with some bolt-on parts is crazy.

I like the Mustang (hell, that's why I own one), but they are a $30K car at best. The GT500 is a $40K car at best.

Can't fault the dealers or Ford for taking advantage of a profit opportunity on a car when they can.....especially right now.

Japan8 03-21-2007 12:12 PM

My thoughts exactly Bryan. Can't blame Ford and the dealers if so many fools are willing to pay $70k for a marked up GT500... same for the Shelby GT. Not bad cars per se, but not at that price.

bascho 03-21-2007 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by Japan8
My thoughts exactly Bryan. Can't blame Ford and the dealers if so many fools are willing to pay $70k for a marked up GT500... same for the Shelby GT. Not bad cars per se, but not at that price.


This is off topic....but American LeMans Series is coming to Detoit (Detroit Belle Isle Grand Prix) on Sept 1st......you goin?

CKay 03-21-2007 12:45 PM

My friend has a GT500, and i drove it last week, it handled really well to my surprise, and in a straight line when you hear that supercharger scream, wow. He just order the Shelby GT and when it arrives I'll take it out for a spin and let you know what I think.

GT34 03-21-2007 01:03 PM

Exactly, it all comes down to the name. And with many loyal enthusiasts to the mustang and shelby name, ford would have to be completely stupid not to target the market just below those able to afford the gt500. But I agree with anyone else, the money could be better spent.

CKay 03-21-2007 01:16 PM

If you could find a GT500 at a reasonable price you would be stupid not to buy it, it runs the same times as a C6 vette plus, the engines is forged, and just the typical bolt ons will have you owning alot of things. yea its not goin to handle as while as a vette, but most Americas in the sports car world, just care about whos faster in a straight line, at least in TX, and the gt500 with bolt ons will own anything in that price range with bolt ons in a straight line. Don't get me wrong i love the vettes but, forged ford engines can handle so much power.

fdtt19 03-21-2007 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by CKay
If you could find a GT500 at a reasonable price you would be stupid not to buy it, it runs the same times as a C6 vette plus, the engines is forged, and just the typical bolt ons will have you owning alot of things. yea its not goin to handle as while as a vette, but most Americas in the sports car world, just care about whos faster in a straight line, at least in TX, and the gt500 with bolt ons will own anything in that price range with bolt ons in a straight line. Don't get me wrong i love the vettes but, forged ford engines can handle so much power.

Exactly, the car runs freakin 10's with an intake, exhaust, and tune.

llzjayarzll 03-21-2007 04:26 PM

^^^ too bad thats all that it does =/

bascho 03-21-2007 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by fdtt19
Exactly, the car runs freakin 10's with an intake, exhaust, and tune.


9's when you also add a smaller pulley and drag slicks

http://www.evoperform.com/videos.htm

dillsrotary 03-21-2007 05:34 PM

I'd rather have a rousch, supercharged plus tons of suspension work added.

DOHCTR 03-22-2007 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by llzjayarzll
^^^ too bad thats all that it does =/

Well, itll sure walk an RX8 stoplight to stoplight...

And sure, the RX8 would beat it in a heated race around the local grocery store parking lot :rolleyes:

N rider89 03-22-2007 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by DOHCTR
Well, itll sure walk an RX8 stoplight to stoplight...

And sure, the RX8 would beat it in a heated race around the local grocery store parking lot :rolleyes:

i would have to watch out racing in a parking lot, i might run in to one of the billions of mustangs there ;)

Stavesacre21 03-22-2007 07:35 PM

oh snap!

comparing the agile rx-8 to a HP factory shelby?! I'm really curious as how on earth the 8 even got it's name mentioned at all in a review of a shelby GT. apples to oranges, really.


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