RX8 > '07 Shelby GT
"Not that a regular Mustang would have faired all that much better, but the experience still left us yearning for something (anything) more refined. A Mazda RX-8, perhaps? A BMW 328i? Not only are those two infinitely better to drive, but they’re also cheaper than a Shelby GT. "
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some people are narrow minded. (i.e domestic car makers.)
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i.e. RX-8 owners
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btw, a friend from NJ came to visit me last weekend. He rented the Shelby GT-H.
I then let him drive my turbocharge RX-8. He said my car felt like it had more power than the Shelby, and this coming from a hard core mustang fan. I drove both - so if mine dynos at 275 whp, the shelby felt like it was about 240 whp. Not sure if it's the weight difference or the slushbox that hurt it most. |
The article doesn't say the setup sucks, it says that Ford is smoking crack (or more like the people who buy the car) for charging that much for just adding the Shelby name on top of "off-the-shelf" parts available from Ford Racing. No arguments there. Some people are stupid enough to pay it for the name.... but I sure as hell wouldn't. Just pick up a regular GT with the CS (California Special) package... same bumper, hood scoop (different) and side scoops... spoiler delete... and then hit the Ford Racing site and order the parts... it even lists all the ones used on the Shelby GT and the part numbers. If you want to be a poser... you can get some racing stripes and even get the official Shelby lettering from Shelby's site. And pocket the change... or spend it on more parts like bigger brakes, bushings and a supercharger...
The article isn't saying so much that the car is horrible... it's like I said... for what you are paying you expect more. That's not the car's fault... that's Ford for pricing it like that and the dumb babyboomers who are more than happy to pay it to have a "Shelby". :rolleyes: Get a GT and mod it. It won't say Shelby on it, but your pocket will love it and the supercharger you can buy with the change will make it seem like a much better deal.
Originally Posted by mysql101
btw, a friend from NJ came to visit me last weekend. He rented the Shelby GT-H.
I then let him drive my turbocharge RX-8. He said my car felt like it had more power than the Shelby, and this coming from a hard core mustang fan. I drove both - so if mine dynos at 275 whp, the shelby felt like it was about 240 whp. Not sure if it's the weight difference or the slushbox that hurt it most. I'd say weight. At least GM slushboxes are so good now that Vettes and GTO's with AT get better 1/4mi times than MT... |
Originally Posted by Japan8
I'd say weight. At least GM slushboxes are so good now that Vettes and GTO's with AT get better 1/4mi times than MT...
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Every Shelby goes from Ford to Shelby's place in Vegas to have the Shelby bits added. then on to the dealership.
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Originally Posted by Japan8
I'd say weight. At least GM slushboxes are so good now that Vettes and GTO's with AT get better 1/4mi times than MT...
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Originally Posted by zoom44
Every Shelby goes from Ford to Shelby's place in Vegas to have the Shelby bits added. then on to the dealership.
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no it doesnt add 0 value. thats what adds all the value- Its done at Shelby by Carrol's people.
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Since Ford has gotten rid of the SVT section of the company that brought things such as the lightning and the terminator Cobra, this is what ford is doing to trying to cover that portion of the market. The car is basically a repackaged GT with a few extra parts on and they jacked the price up. I doubt it will be a big seller as anyone with a brain would pay a little more for the GT-500, Saleen, Roush, or Steeda. It was a mistake to get rid of the SVT branch of ford and I wouldnt be suprised to see more repackaged junk like this from ford.
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Originally Posted by zoom44
no it doesnt add 0 value. thats what adds all the value- Its done at Shelby by Carrol's people.
You can get a Shelby CS6 package for a V6 Mustang... it comes with a plaque and Shelby lettering too. :cwm27:
Originally Posted by strokercharged95gt
Since Ford has gotten rid of the SVT section of the company that brought things such as the lightning and the terminator Cobra, this is what ford is doing to trying to cover that portion of the market. The car is basically a repackaged GT with a few extra parts on and they jacked the price up. I doubt it will be a big seller as anyone with a brain would pay a little more for the GT-500, Saleen, Roush, or Steeda. It was a mistake to get rid of the SVT branch of ford and I wouldnt be suprised to see more repackaged junk like this from ford.
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The Shelby GT exists because there is a sub-section of the market that has more money than brains. Anyone willing to spend over $40K for a Mustang GT with some bolt-on parts is crazy.
I like the Mustang (hell, that's why I own one), but they are a $30K car at best. The GT500 is a $40K car at best. Can't fault the dealers or Ford for taking advantage of a profit opportunity on a car when they can.....especially right now. |
My thoughts exactly Bryan. Can't blame Ford and the dealers if so many fools are willing to pay $70k for a marked up GT500... same for the Shelby GT. Not bad cars per se, but not at that price.
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Originally Posted by Japan8
My thoughts exactly Bryan. Can't blame Ford and the dealers if so many fools are willing to pay $70k for a marked up GT500... same for the Shelby GT. Not bad cars per se, but not at that price.
This is off topic....but American LeMans Series is coming to Detoit (Detroit Belle Isle Grand Prix) on Sept 1st......you goin? |
My friend has a GT500, and i drove it last week, it handled really well to my surprise, and in a straight line when you hear that supercharger scream, wow. He just order the Shelby GT and when it arrives I'll take it out for a spin and let you know what I think.
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Exactly, it all comes down to the name. And with many loyal enthusiasts to the mustang and shelby name, ford would have to be completely stupid not to target the market just below those able to afford the gt500. But I agree with anyone else, the money could be better spent.
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If you could find a GT500 at a reasonable price you would be stupid not to buy it, it runs the same times as a C6 vette plus, the engines is forged, and just the typical bolt ons will have you owning alot of things. yea its not goin to handle as while as a vette, but most Americas in the sports car world, just care about whos faster in a straight line, at least in TX, and the gt500 with bolt ons will own anything in that price range with bolt ons in a straight line. Don't get me wrong i love the vettes but, forged ford engines can handle so much power.
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Originally Posted by CKay
If you could find a GT500 at a reasonable price you would be stupid not to buy it, it runs the same times as a C6 vette plus, the engines is forged, and just the typical bolt ons will have you owning alot of things. yea its not goin to handle as while as a vette, but most Americas in the sports car world, just care about whos faster in a straight line, at least in TX, and the gt500 with bolt ons will own anything in that price range with bolt ons in a straight line. Don't get me wrong i love the vettes but, forged ford engines can handle so much power.
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^^^ too bad thats all that it does =/
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Originally Posted by fdtt19
Exactly, the car runs freakin 10's with an intake, exhaust, and tune.
9's when you also add a smaller pulley and drag slicks http://www.evoperform.com/videos.htm |
I'd rather have a rousch, supercharged plus tons of suspension work added.
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Originally Posted by llzjayarzll
^^^ too bad thats all that it does =/
And sure, the RX8 would beat it in a heated race around the local grocery store parking lot :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by DOHCTR
Well, itll sure walk an RX8 stoplight to stoplight...
And sure, the RX8 would beat it in a heated race around the local grocery store parking lot :rolleyes: |
oh snap!
comparing the agile rx-8 to a HP factory shelby?! I'm really curious as how on earth the 8 even got it's name mentioned at all in a review of a shelby GT. apples to oranges, really. |
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