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waterguy 01-12-2013 03:04 PM

Regen method for the New Mazda 6 diesel?
 
I am a former mazda owner, 323, and want my next purchase to bring me back to mazda. started looking at the 3, then the cx 5 and now the new 6. My dealer said the diesel should be out in the late summer/early fall. Like the diesel more for performance second fuel economy...I don't have a long commute.
Doing research on line and reading about diesels and the DPF/regen, I am concerned about getting a diesel. I have read the issues and fix(?) for the cx 5 in australia, and have heard the 6 2.2 diesel will not have this problem. Does anyone know if the 6 2. diesel will use the same method of injection in the cylinder during the exhaust cycle or not? I have tried to get specific details from mazda usa and on internet searches but without luck.

Thanks in advance for your responses.

waterguy 02-10-2013 10:53 AM

Apparently there will be no functional changes to the regen method for the 2.2 skyactiv D. I have spoken with my local dealer and he notes no significant changes. I suppose the 6 will address the rising oil issue, by modifying the frequency and duration of the active regens, but diesel will be injected in the cylinder.
I test drove the new 6 AT touring and really liked it, but want to drive the manual tranny, and the diesel.
I have driven the passat TDI 6MT and want that torque from the 6, but am concerned about the dpf technology. I will follow the rollout of the diesel 6 in the US and hope mazda is successful with it.

ASH8 02-11-2013 03:59 PM

It will be the same engine as used in the CX-5 2.2 SA-D..

Since the ECU update (Regen frequency) I have not heard of any more rising issues, have you?,
I will say one thing and I don't care what diesel brand engine one owns, they are NOT for short commutes.

Considering the US spec 6 diesels are not even made yet, I believe most of the bugs will have been sorted out.

waterguy 02-11-2013 10:08 PM


Originally Posted by ASH8 (Post 4425203)
It will be the same engine as used in the CX-5 2.2 SA-D..

Since the ECU update (Regen frequency) I have not heard of any more rising issues, have you?,
I will say one thing and I don't care what diesel brand engine one owns, they are NOT for short commutes.

Considering the US spec 6 diesels are not even made yet, I believe most of the bugs will have been sorted out.

I hope so want it to be a success! It does appear the rising oil issue is being addressed. Is there a recommended type of daily driving commute minimum distance, "short commutes" is somewhat relative.

RIWWP 02-11-2013 10:23 PM

I believe that it's largely time based, not mileage based. You want everything to get hot, and you need to spend a proportionally high amount percentage of the time at temperature. At a pure guess, call it ~75% or more of the time the engine is on. So if it takes 5 minutes or so to get up to temp, then you probably want a general average minimum of 20 minute drives. In some metropolitan areas, this can easily be 5 miles in that 20 minutes. Other areas it's actually closer to 16-22 miles.

This doesn't mean that short drives are to be avoided at all cost, just don't make them a significant portion of the whole. Like I drive 74 miles one way when I head into work (not every day), but the store is 1/3rd of a mile away. If I bought a diesel for my wife, it would only ever see that 1/3rd of a mile, but if I had it, then it would see plenty of the long duration, so the quick store trips periodically aren't really that big of a deal.

waterguy 02-11-2013 10:32 PM

okay thanks, round trip for me is 30 miles, with weekend trips longer, and with the diesel I would want to make even more weekend road trips.


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