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gwilliams6 01-30-2017 12:00 PM

Without reliability it doesn't matter how fast they are.

The RX7-based race cars were legendary for their reliability and won many races by outlasting their more powerful opponents. I witnessed this many times in person at tracks across America, including Daytona.

These Mazda prototypes' teething pains are frustrating , but I know Mazda and Speedsource won't give up.

Jedi54 01-30-2017 12:47 PM

I get the feeling the cars were tuned down a bit in order for Mazda to finally do something they hadn't done in a few years; finish the race.
Mission (sort of) accomplished for 1 of the cars.
While neither car avoided trips to the garage, I think they showed these motors are far more robust / reliable then what they had been racing in the past.
The 55 had an oil leak of some sort, I'm sure we'll find out it was some stupid hose or something that burst.

12 hours of Sebring will show us a lot about the reliability of these cars but I'm much more confident with these motors than in years past.

ajrrx8 01-30-2017 02:44 PM

Are these not the same engines they ran last year? 2 liter turbo.

Jedi54 01-30-2017 02:46 PM

it's built on the same MZ motor but they overhauled the hell out of it in the offseason.

gwilliams6 01-30-2017 04:14 PM

[QUOTE=Jedi54;4803085 12 hours of Sebring will show us a lot about the reliability of these cars but I'm much more confident with these motors than in years past.[/QUOTE]



And the track roughness at Sebring will surely test any loose fittings !!

RX-Tuner 01-31-2017 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by gwilliams6 (Post 4803111)
[QUOTE=Jedi54;4803085 12 hours of Sebring will show us a lot about the reliability of these cars but I'm much more confident with these motors than in years past.

I agree about the motors Jedi, hopefully we are right. Sebring is always a good test of reliability and design so we shall see.

And the track roughness at Sebring will surely test any loose fittings !![/QUOTE]

And fillings as well Gwilliams6, lol.

It's frustrating that the #70 actually got hit hard enough in the right rear wheel to be punted off course by Jeff Gordon. Racing is racing and things happen but ironically the #70 later had a clutch or gearbox issues which sent it to the garage for hours. If something gets tweaked a few thousandths in a gearbox, it's a huge deal. So was it a weak link rearing it's head or was it damaged from the impact....

ajrrx8 01-31-2017 06:36 PM

Yeah, to win one of these you pretty much have to have a flawless 24 hours on the track.

gwilliams6 02-02-2017 06:56 PM

If you missed the race, here it is online (complete 24 hrs) at Imsa.tv in three multi-hour part videos. Enjoy !

Part 1 - 2017 Rolex 24 At Daytona | IMSA.tv

Jedi54 03-16-2017 06:55 PM

12 hours of Sebring is this weekend!


Even after getting hit with a BOP (balance of Performance) the Cadillacs were STILL fastest in today's practice

Jordan Taylor found some speed in the Wayne Taylor Racing Cadillac DPi-V.R and posted the fastest time in the second IMSA WeatherTech SportsCar Championship practice session in preparation for the Mobil 1 Twelve Hours of Sebring.

After languishing toward the bottom of the speed charts for much of the session, Taylor uncorked a fast lap of 1:49.888 seconds with just under 20 minutes to go in the hour-long practice.
can we say... sandbagging?

WaitingforFI 03-17-2017 08:40 AM

Nice! Hopefully Fox sports wont make me channel hop like they do for the Rolex

Bladecutter 03-18-2017 09:21 AM

I'm looking forward to seeing which Mazda craps out of the race first.
I'm also watching the qualifying laps from yesterday, and its unbelievable how bumpy this track is. I was amazed how rough the Detroit street track was last year, but this one, how is this a professional race track in this condition?

BC.

WaitingforFI 03-18-2017 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by Bladecutter (Post 4810006)
I'm looking forward to seeing which Mazda craps out of the race first.
I'm also watching the qualifying laps from yesterday, and its unbelievable how bumpy this track is. I was amazed how rough the Detroit street track was last year, but this one, how is this a professional race track in this condition?

BC.

tradition... Also, those qualifying times are insanely close. I can't wait

Bladecutter 03-18-2017 10:26 AM

Looks like #55 wins:


Of course, the kings of bad luck, the Mazda Prototype, didn’t take long to join them in the pits. The No. 55 Mazda had a flat left rear tire within the first few minutes
Can't even get to the start of the race without SOMETHING happening.

BC.

Jedi54 03-18-2017 11:54 AM

flat tire?
damn it, that's just terrible luck.

they can recover from that if they can execute their pit stops correctly.
c'mon Mazda, we need to see you guys making a run at the podium

Bladecutter 03-18-2017 12:55 PM

#70 crashed big into a wall:

Here's The Nightmare Ride You Never Want To Take When Your Brakes Fail At 170 MPH

#55 is 10 laps behind the leader.

Another quality showing by Mazda.
I'm going to go watch the Avs play the Red Wings instead.

BC.

Jedi54 03-18-2017 01:04 PM

gawd damn it Mazda.
ugh.
Was looking forward to watching the race later today but looks like I'll also be watching some hockey as well.
And BC, you know it's bad when you'd rather watch your Avs play than a race... (been a rough year for my Devils as well)

Bladecutter 03-18-2017 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by Jedi54 (Post 4810035)
And BC, you know it's bad when you'd rather watch your Avs play than a race... (been a rough year for my Devils as well)

Well, the Avs played Detroit on Thursday, and actually came away with a win, so my chances of watching a victory are much, much higher today.

Unless someone disqualifies all the Caddies, and spots Mazda 40 laps every race, that is.

BC.

Jedi54 03-18-2017 01:31 PM

The Cadillac's are just freaking monsters out there.
It's their series to lose if this is how the season is going to be. I still have some optimism that Mazda will get their shit together but I fear that on the sprint races Cadillac is just going to demolish the competition. (worse than usual)

Bladecutter 03-19-2017 08:48 AM

So, did anyone catch what happened to #70?
I went outside for a while to scoop dog poop, then went to pick up dinner, came back, and it was listed as OUT.

BC.

Jedi54 03-19-2017 12:25 PM

they brought the car into the garage because of a misfire issue and while in there they found a crack in the suspension.
game over for the #70.

rough day for Mazda.

Bladecutter 03-20-2017 08:13 AM

Misfire again.
Isn't that what took out #55 near the end of Daytona?

Well, here's to hoping they show up for the next race.

Avalanche, as it turned out, didn't show up in the third period, either.
Hence why scooping dog poop was preferable to either sporting event.

BC.

Jedi54 03-20-2017 11:05 AM

Next race is Long Beach which I was excited to go to.
Now, thinking I'm probably staying home for that one...

WaitingforFI 03-22-2017 08:28 AM

Finally watched the rest of Sebring. Great race for Cadi, anyone know why Ford fell off that pace at the end? I would think that the turbo cars would have an advantage with the cooler night temps.

Jedi54 03-31-2017 03:23 PM

Mazda, Nissan DPis Given Power Increases for Long Beach

Both the Mazda RT24-P and Nissan Onroak DPi will head into next weekend’s IMSA WeatherTech SportsCar Championship round at Long Beach with power increases, in the latest round of Balance of Performance adjustments.

The Nissan has been given an increase in turbo boost pressures across all RPM ranges, while the Mazda will benefit from a boost from the 2000-7000 RPM range.

might help them compete against all the power the Caddys have down low.

Jedi54 04-07-2017 09:56 PM

SHOCKER!
Cadillac takes the pole. :rolleyes:


A dominant and record-breaking run in qualifying for Ricky Taylor has put Wayne Taylor Racing and Cadillac on pole for Saturday’s Bubba Burger Sports Car Grand Prix at Long Beach.


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