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Mazda to push Skyactiv Turbo to more vehicles
From the Earnings report
Going forward, Mazda plans to expand the SKYACTIV lineup by offering its 2.5-liter direct-injection turbo engine on a wider range of vehicles. |
Now this is good news. RWD/AWD Mazda 6 please.
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I'm hoping they'll dust off the tooling for the '8 and put the 2.5T in that.
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Haven't heard a peep about a Mazdaspeed3 in a while...?
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Good...now it's time to build a RWD 2 door sports car with some decent power.
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give me an AWD sedan like the 6....
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Originally Posted by NotAPreppie
(Post 4816615)
I'm hoping they'll dust off the tooling for the '8 and put the 2.5T in that.
:yelrotflm |
And the R&D is mostly done. Just make sure to crash test a few and the costs are all in the tooling/production.
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Knew this would happen when Mazda first stated their turbo 2.5 would fit in all their 3s and 6s.
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come on next gen 6....
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I'll trade in my WRX for a bitchin' AWD turbo Mazda sedan.
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This pains me so much knowing I'm going to miss out on a turbo 6. I just got a 2017 M6 at the end of February. I got a great deal so I guess I can't be too mad. I wonder if turbos can be retrofitted at least aftermarket.
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I would be interested in Speed 6 or 3, but unfortunately I need to replace my aging Xterra first.
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dj: replace Xterra with a turbo diesel CX-5 this fall and then get a 6 or 3 some time next year when they release them with the 2.5L.
WINNING. :cool: |
I need something i can take camping and tow with. I should get a truck honestly, for as much as my X carries all time. I dont think the CX-5 could go the places I go when heading up to the mountains. I am looking at the Jeep GC diesel (if they ever get cert'd by the EPA and CARB) or the Volvo XC60 T8 (when I can finally test one). Other than that maybe I will wait to see what the new Bronco is going to be.
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Mazdaspeed6 would be awesome.
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Originally Posted by TC4Tay
(Post 4820333)
Mazdaspeed6 would be awesome.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...c89e93b174.jpg |
Meh, A speed6 needs to be four door.
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That rendering looks more like a 3 and closer to its proportions than a 6. That wouldn't be a bad idea either, a AWD 3.
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I need a modern mazdaspeed6!! Lol, not going to lie though, i like the power in my 6 right now but would love the new modern features.
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doesn't the current CEO not like the mazdaspeed line?
didn't he make some comments towards it a while back? as for the 2.5T, I do like that Dave Coleman confirmed that the cars being built today are being designed to ensure they can take the 2.5T if Mazda decides to go that route. It would basically be plug and play. The new KF CX-5 is a prime example. now, put that in a 6 and they could have a real winner but I worry about what that does to their class leading fuel mileage. without a hybrid / electric / hydrogen in the fleet, this could be a hit to Mazda's #'s and make them even less appealing to the masses who lets be honest, they just look at brochure specs and pick the highest one. |
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They will probably put the 2.5T's into boring FWD cars.
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Originally Posted by WaitingforFI
(Post 4820386)
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I sure did.
I love my Cayman. BC. |
Originally Posted by Bladecutter
(Post 4820468)
I sure did.
I love my Cayman. BC. |
Originally Posted by 77mjd
(Post 4820519)
Cayman is probably the route I'm gonna end up going as well. I'm a couple years away from buying anyway so I'll be able to see what happens with the Supra and see if the Z ever gets a refresh. It's probably a safe bet to give up on Mazda for any high performance at this point.
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Originally Posted by Mazdaspeed RX8 ver2
(Post 4821618)
It seems like a natural progression for purist that we end up with a Porsche in our garage one day.
I have no idea what might be available in the future, but I hope it's going to be epic. BC. |
Originally Posted by Bladecutter
(Post 4821630)
I went from a '98 Boxster to an '11 RX-8, and then on to the '15 Cayman.
I have no idea what might be available in the future, but I hope it's going to be epic. BC. |
hi, I'm here for the Cayman owner's club...err.... wait...
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Originally Posted by Jedi54
(Post 4821761)
hi, I'm here for the Cayman owner's club...err.... wait...
:scratchhe https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...5c0ec2ddbb.jpg |
Comparing a 2015 Cayman to an Rx-8 is silly. More so if it is an S or GTS.
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Originally Posted by Mazdaspeed RX8 ver2
(Post 4821723)
How do you like Cayman over the rx8?
I would rather Mazda step up its damn game and make a replacement for the RX-8 with everything we want as Mazda fans. The RX-8 is a lighter feeling car at the steering wheel and controls compared to the Cayman, even though their weights are nearly identical. The Cayman feels more stable on mid corner bumps because of all the weight behind the seats, of course. Both cars are lightning fast when pitching through esses and tight corners, and are rock stable in those weight transitions. Mazda wins for interior room, and ability to lean back and relax, or to carry passengers (no duh, I know), but the Cayman wins for being able to drive from Denver to Detroit to Maine, and then back without bankrupting you in gas and oil purchases. We had our car for just a couple of weeks and had put 2k miles on it before our 5500 mile journey with the Cayman to my mom's 70th b-day party in New Brunswick, Canada. Both cars are stunning to look at, and I never get tired of looking at either one. I always keep my eyes out for RX-8's while driving, and miss mine. But, when the road is open in front of me, and I get to open up the Cayman to 7500 rpms, with that engine howling just behind my back, I'm not missing the RX-8 all that much.
Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
(Post 4821811)
Comparing a 2015 Cayman to an Rx-8 is silly. More so if it is an S or GTS.
It was the direction I was planning to go as I owned the RX-8 (unless Mazda released something in the time frame that I was ready to make a purchase), and it was just a matter of time before I bought it. That damned sexy CX-5, however, delayed that plan by 2 years. Also, my Cayman is a Base, so 231 hp vs 275 with nearly the same weight is a good progression in life. Perfectly fine comparison to make, in my opinion. All the sporting options are checked (MT, PASM, PTV w/LSD), without any of the fluff (except the 14 way memory leather seats option since my wife and I are on different height spectrums, and for the adaptive xenon headlights). I love the Cayman, and I don't sit in it, thinking I wish it had a bit more power, or more torque, or got better fuel mileage, or that it has a less squeaky interior. That car is a gem, and you get exactly what you pay for with the money you put down - an expertly built canyon carving no compromises sports car that sounds and looks as good as it drives. And I daily drive the hell out of it. Over 30k miles in the 2 years I've owned it so far. BC. |
A speed3 would be amazing.
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Originally Posted by ne0tas
(Post 4823285)
A speed3 would be amazing.
They just did the 3. They need to Speed something RWD. |
Originally Posted by Steve Dallas
(Post 4823310)
Because torque steer is awesome!
They just did the 3. They need to Speed something RWD. |
Originally Posted by Bladecutter
(Post 4821877)
Honestly, I wish I could have both cars at the exact same time.
I would rather Mazda step up its damn game and make a replacement for the RX-8 with everything we want as Mazda fans. The RX-8 is a lighter feeling car at the steering wheel and controls compared to the Cayman, even though their weights are nearly identical. The Cayman feels more stable on mid corner bumps because of all the weight behind the seats, of course. Both cars are lightning fast when pitching through esses and tight corners, and are rock stable in those weight transitions. Mazda wins for interior room, and ability to lean back and relax, or to carry passengers (no duh, I know), but the Cayman wins for being able to drive from Denver to Detroit to Maine, and then back without bankrupting you in gas and oil purchases. We had our car for just a couple of weeks and had put 2k miles on it before our 5500 mile journey with the Cayman to my mom's 70th b-day party in New Brunswick, Canada. Both cars are stunning to look at, and I never get tired of looking at either one. I always keep my eyes out for RX-8's while driving, and miss mine. But, when the road is open in front of me, and I get to open up the Cayman to 7500 rpms, with that engine howling just behind my back, I'm not missing the RX-8 all that much. It may be silly for you, but it's not for me. It was the direction I was planning to go as I owned the RX-8 (unless Mazda released something in the time frame that I was ready to make a purchase), and it was just a matter of time before I bought it. That damned sexy CX-5, however, delayed that plan by 2 years. Also, my Cayman is a Base, so 231 hp vs 275 with nearly the same weight is a good progression in life. Perfectly fine comparison to make, in my opinion. All the sporting options are checked (MT, PASM, PTV w/LSD), without any of the fluff (except the 14 way memory leather seats option since my wife and I are on different height spectrums, and for the adaptive xenon headlights). I love the Cayman, and I don't sit in it, thinking I wish it had a bit more power, or more torque, or got better fuel mileage, or that it has a less squeaky interior. That car is a gem, and you get exactly what you pay for with the money you put down - an expertly built canyon carving no compromises sports car that sounds and looks as good as it drives. And I daily drive the hell out of it. Over 30k miles in the 2 years I've owned it so far. BC. |
Originally Posted by Bladecutter
(Post 4821877)
Honestly, I wish I could have both cars at the exact same time.
I would rather Mazda step up its damn game and make a replacement for the RX-8 with everything we want as Mazda fans. The RX-8 is a lighter feeling car at the steering wheel and controls compared to the Cayman, even though their weights are nearly identical. The Cayman feels more stable on mid corner bumps because of all the weight behind the seats, of course. Both cars are lightning fast when pitching through esses and tight corners, and are rock stable in those weight transitions. Mazda wins for interior room, and ability to lean back and relax, or to carry passengers (no duh, I know), but the Cayman wins for being able to drive from Denver to Detroit to Maine, and then back without bankrupting you in gas and oil purchases. We had our car for just a couple of weeks and had put 2k miles on it before our 5500 mile journey with the Cayman to my mom's 70th b-day party in New Brunswick, Canada. Both cars are stunning to look at, and I never get tired of looking at either one. I always keep my eyes out for RX-8's while driving, and miss mine. But, when the road is open in front of me, and I get to open up the Cayman to 7500 rpms, with that engine howling just behind my back, I'm not missing the RX-8 all that much. It may be silly for you, but it's not for me. It was the direction I was planning to go as I owned the RX-8 (unless Mazda released something in the time frame that I was ready to make a purchase), and it was just a matter of time before I bought it. That damned sexy CX-5, however, delayed that plan by 2 years. Also, my Cayman is a Base, so 231 hp vs 275 with nearly the same weight is a good progression in life. Perfectly fine comparison to make, in my opinion. All the sporting options are checked (MT, PASM, PTV w/LSD), without any of the fluff (except the 14 way memory leather seats option since my wife and I are on different height spectrums, and for the adaptive xenon headlights). I love the Cayman, and I don't sit in it, thinking I wish it had a bit more power, or more torque, or got better fuel mileage, or that it has a less squeaky interior. That car is a gem, and you get exactly what you pay for with the money you put down - an expertly built canyon carving no compromises sports car that sounds and looks as good as it drives. And I daily drive the hell out of it. Over 30k miles in the 2 years I've owned it so far. BC. I have not driven a base, but the GTS I looked at was wonderful, no comparison to an RX-8 in anyway IMO and that is as it should be since you can buy an RX-8 for $10.00 now days. |
That's gonna become more and more common. A lot of other manufacturers are using turbos now on family cars.
Honda, for example, is already using a 1.5 I4T for the new Civics on the higher trims. Words have it that the new 2018 Accords will ditch the 3.5 V6 for a 2.0 I4T. Turbos are not necessarily a bad thing, but an I4T doesn't exactly have the same smoothness as a V6, so a lot of people still prefer a NA V6 setup. |
Originally Posted by NotAPreppie
(Post 4823365)
They'd need a RWD platform first.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...c40dc454ac.jpg |
The one car in their rwd platform is the least likely to receive Turbo Skyactiv anything, for now at least. MX-5 is still about 'balance' and lightweight is a very important part of that equation.
Paul. |
There was a Mazdaspeed Miata in 2004 and 2005. It wasn't that great, but it existed. With a few mods, those cars are pretty quick.
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Originally Posted by Mazmart
(Post 4823490)
MX-5 is still about 'balance' and lightweight is a very important part of that equation.
Paul. |
Originally Posted by Steve Dallas
(Post 4823635)
There was a Mazdaspeed Miata in 2004 and 2005. It wasn't that great, but it existed. With a few mods, those cars are pretty quick.
I think Mazda 6 is the obvious candidate. Paul. |
Yeah, if they do the ND MX-5, they will have to upsize everything--brakes, hubs, spring rates, etc. It is probably the 6's turn again.
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I think that with the new accord(2018) and the new kia stinger out there they need to do something to give the 6 more power
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I read the Stinger was going to be close to 50k, that is just nuts for a KIA. Even the most expensive Accord (fully loaded hybrid) is not expected to be over 40k. My buddies fully loaded 6 GT was just over 30k so if they added the turbo engine and don't increase the price much they could have a winner.
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Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
(Post 4824317)
My buddies fully loaded 6 GT was just over 30k so if they added the turbo engine and don't increase the price much they could have a winner.
And of course a 6MT option. |
And ditched FWD but that's doubtful.
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Turbo SA-G in the Mazda 6 with optional AWD.
winning! |
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