Mazda Hydrogen rotary Series Hybrid
Mazda Begins Commercial Leasing of World's First Hybrid Rotary Hydrogen Vehicle
25/03/2009 13:05 The FINANCIAL -- Mazda Motor Corporation on March 25 commenced commercial leasing of the Mazda Premacy Hydrogen RE Hybrid, a hydrogen hybrid vehicle that offers substantially improved performance thanks to the addition of a hybrid system. Mazda is the world’s first automobile manufacturer to begin commercial leasing of a hydrogen hybrid vehicle; the first units will be delivered to local government authorities and energy-related companies during 2009. The Premacy Hydrogen RE Hybrid is Mazda’s second hydrogen rotary engine model to be commercialized; the first was Mazda’s unique RX-8 Hydrogen RE. The Premacy Hydrogen RE Hybrid’s finalized specifications were approved by Japan’s Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism (MLIT) on March 5, 2009. The first vehicles received their registration numbers from the Hiroshima branch of the Chugoku District Transport Bureau on March 25. The Premacy Hydrogen RE Hybrid features a series-type hybrid drivetrain, which combines Mazda’s hydrogen rotary engine with an electric motor. The engine output is converted to electricity, which then powers the motor that drives the wheels. This hybrid system boosts the hydrogen fuel range of the Premacy Hydrogen RE Hybrid to 200 kilometers, twice the range of the RX-8 Hydrogen RE, and increases the maximum output by approximately 40 percent, to 110 kilowatts. Mazda’s latest eco-car features many other forward-looking environmental technologies, including Mazda’s proprietary dual-fuel system, which enables the car to run on gasoline if hydrogen is unavailable, and interior parts made from Mazda’s plant-derived Biotechmaterials. Based on the Sustainable Zoom-Zoom plan, Mazda is committed to pursuing harmony between driving pleasure and environmental and safety features, and the quest for an advanced Zoom-Zoom world. Mazda aims to offer vehicles that “look inviting to drive, are fun to drive, and make you want to drive them again.” |
Or some of you may prefer to ride around in Neil Young's LinkVolt, a '59 Lincoln convertible that also has a rotary series hybrid, with a choice of fuels:
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This is one nice article. Good read, and it is good news for Mazda!
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Main specifications of the Mazda Premacy Hydrogen RE Hybrid
Base model: Mazda Premacy Overall length: 4,565mm Overall width: 1,745mm Overall height: 1,620 mm Engine: Mazda’s hydrogen rotary engine (with dual-fuel system) Motor: Alternating current synchronous motor Maximum output: 110 kW Generator: Alternating current synchronous generator Battery: Lithium-ion (Li-ion) Seating capacity: Five Fuel: Hydrogen and gasoline Hydrogen tank: 35 MPa high-pressure tank History of Mazda’s hydrogen vehicle development 1991: Developed first hydrogen rotary engine vehicle, HR-X 1992: Conducted test drive of golf cart equipped with fuel cell 1993: Developed second hydrogen rotary engine vehicle, HR-X2 Developed MX-5 test vehicle equipped with hydrogen rotary engine 1995: Conducted Japan’s first public road tests of a hydrogen rotary engine vehicle, Capella Cargo. 1997: Developed Demio FC-EV 2001: Developed Premacy FC-EV, conducted first public road test in Japan 2003: Announced RX-8 hydrogen rotary engine development 2004: Received MLIT approval for public road testing of RX-8 Hydrogen RE 2006: Started commercial leasing of RX-8 Hydrogen RE in Japan (eight models have been delivered to date) 2007: Signed agreement to provide RX-8 Hydrogen REs to Hynor, a Norwegian national project 2008: Commenced public road tests in Norway with RX-8 Hydrogen RE validation vehicle 2009: Commenced commercial leasing of Premacy Hydrogen RE Hybrid in Japan |
There are 2 good things about that Premacy. The first being that it is a series hybrid rather than a parallel. The second thing is that the engine still runs on gasoline you don't absolutely have to run it on that hydrogen crap. ;)
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
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There are 2 good things about that Premacy. The first being that it is a series hybrid rather than a parallel. The second thing is that the engine still runs on gasoline you don't absolutely have to run it on that hydrogen crap. ;)
but H2 is not crap IMHO :lol: still believe (or hope?) into a rotary powered car hybrid (gasoline-feed) in 2 or 3 years....... |
Burning H2 as a fuel makes no sense - it has such huge upstream costs that it saves no fuel if you look at the big picture.
The only viable source for commercial hydrogen is a steam/methane reformer. We have six of these at work (as far as I know, we are the biggest hydrogen producer and user in the world). They use methane (CH4) to crack the hydrogen out of ordinary water (2 x H2O) and produce carbon dioxide (CO2) and lots'o'hydrogen (H8) You can see that this process uses gas, produces CO2 and is very expensive and energy intensive. Now if you burn that hydrogen in your car, producing only water out the tailpipe ("See, I can drink it! No pollution! I've saved the world!!") you are only fooling yourself......... The answer of using perfectly good electricity to make hydrogen makes even less sense than using perfectly fine maize to make gasohol. People are all pumped about the Ballard electric fuel cell, invented here in Canada - amazing efficiency, quiet electric cars - but the fuel cell has an achilles heel; the working part is a platinum foam/sponge that is full of water. If it freezes even once, it is scrap. Canadians should probably not get too excited about this technology...... |
i thought Norway produced the most? http://www.hynor.no/english
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
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There are 2 good things about that Premacy. The first being that it is a series hybrid rather than a parallel. The second thing is that the engine still runs on gasoline you don't absolutely have to run it on that hydrogen crap. ;)
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Don't look for a Mazda hybrid production model for another 5-10 years, also more on their commitment to lighter weight vehicles (without higher costs), etc:
http://www.reuters.com/article/reute...52P1KB20090326 |
Originally Posted by robrecht
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I hope the article is correct and it is truly a series hybrid. This was rumored back in November. The older Premacy hydrogen hybrid from the 2007 Tokyo auto show was a parallel hybrid. The range is still 200 km, which is just not impressive at all. I hope there's more range on gasoline.
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Originally Posted by Mazmart
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Definitely 'series hybrid'. I've seen their illustrations.
Paul. |
Originally Posted by robrecht
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Don't look for a Mazda hybrid production model for another 5-10 years, also more on their commitment to lighter weight vehicles (without higher costs), etc:
http://www.reuters.com/article/reute...52P1KB20090326 big mistake IMHO. in some parts of mayor cities here in EU gasoline hy. are allowed to circulate, diesels NOT. |
Again it's so obvious the EU are pushing manufacturers into a corner where they will have to have a hybrid of some sorts....
2015 will be the year you will see Mazda make it's move...if it still exists! |
Originally Posted by ASH8
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Again it's so obvious the EU are pushing manufacturers into a corner where they will have to have a hybrid of some sorts....
2015 will be the year you will see Mazda make it's move...if it still exists! but Germany (the country) it's against these rules....... Italy, France and UK are "more likely" Toyota and Honda are pushing hard on Prius & Insight over here. |
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