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ASH8 07-26-2010 04:55 PM

Mazda CX-5 SUV back on the Drawing Board again?
 
http://www.autoevolution.com/news/ma...ing-22811.html


It appears this (or Similar) Smaller SUV designed by Mazda Europe is back on the Drawing Board....again...or it may just be Internet chatter...


New ND Miata/MX-5 with SKY Engine also raising it's head..
http://www.egmcartech.com/2010/07/26...sky-g-engines/

Frankly, I can not see how Mazda can make the Miata too much smaller/lighter as it won't appeal to the US market??

I think it will be half an inch shorter and a half off it's width to justify the claim.

SKY 1.6 and 1.8 Litre engines are the go...

zoom44 07-26-2010 06:28 PM

hahahah see thats what Matt and i have been saying :) mazda europe is still pushing for that compact s/cuv windsurfer mobile. MNAO want another rotary. each is supporting the other so each gets what it wants.

lets see what shows in paris after mazda's design meeting :)

interesting thing about autocar thou- their article about the next mx-5 said it would be the first with anew sky engine while their cx-5 article says it will be the first with a new sky engine AND its pretty much a done deal that next year the 6 will offer the sky Diesel. i dont see how either of the next gen cars will be out before the 6 sky diesel.

77mjd 07-26-2010 09:16 PM

I don't think I've ever seen so much uncertainty in the auto world as there is now. Almost any brand...nobody seems to know for certain what's coming/not coming and all your left with is blogs/message boards/magazines filled with speculation. Very irritating when you're in the market for a new car and wondering if you should hold out for something that may or may not happen in a year or two.

MattMPS 07-27-2010 12:27 AM

Here in EU for Mazda Motor Europe it's easy to bet over che CX-5, i must confirm that Nissan Qashqai is selling like hot cakes....they need that kind of model to improve sales...

i've read somewhere that is planned in both 3 and 5 doors versions.....

@ASH, maybe the reduction in size of mx-5 is not so big....few cm...but that makes the difference in the global apparence of the car.....(just under 4 mt , like NA)

@zoom: frankly i don't see a new 6 for next year...they have just launched the restyled version this year here in EU....cx-7 could have a redesign...(launch january 2006 in LA)

ASH8 07-27-2010 05:28 AM

Matt...

I think I agree with you on the 6, just had a face-lift, another 2-3 years maybe??..

Sorry Charlie....;)

On the MX-5, many Journo's are saying Mazda want to get the MX-5 back to 1000KG, well the NC is only 135 KG's over that, I just cant see where they will find that much weight without a severe compromise in Size...many guys or 6 footers in the USA already complain they can not fit, so they either make the boot or trunk smaller or shorter, front of A pillar will be no lower (in fact more than likely higher, or same)...will be interesting though...I like the MX-5 as it is...

As for the so-called Photo-shopped images of the MX-5...take that with a pinch of salt...means NOTHING as NO one really knows yet...

The CX-5..MMmm, I would prefer Mazda to make a Mazda 1, there is a market for a smaller car than the 2, but they are not a large money maker or have a lot of profit margin, they can charge a lot more for SUV's.

:)

MattMPS 07-27-2010 06:52 AM


Originally Posted by ASH8 (Post 3649825)
The CX-5..MMmm, I would prefer Mazda to make a Mazda 1, there is a market for a smaller car than the 2, but they are not a large money maker or have a lot of profit margin, they can charge a lot more for SUV's.

:)


yes, cx-5 is easier to do with profits in japan than a 1....and Ashley, i think a well made CX-5 could be interesting here in EU..peolpe likes that kind of cars, even nOT with 4WD......

They need to improve sales here....today here in Italy are selling well ONLY cx-7 diesel and 2....

zoom44 07-27-2010 10:32 AM

i didnt say re-styled or new 6. i said new ENGINE offered. they arlready have said it on three occasions "the sky-diesel will be introduced into the US next year in amid sized sedan" or similar statement.

MattMPS 07-27-2010 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by zoom44 (Post 3650027)
i didnt say re-styled or new 6. i said new ENGINE offered. they arlready have said it on three occasions "the sky-diesel will be introduced into the US next year in amid sized sedan" or similar statement.

yes, i've read......but in another interview MNAO CEO have said : "is not possible to adapt SKY engines to existing platforms"...months ago......maybe was talking about gasoline SKY.....

zoom44 07-27-2010 02:59 PM

and i've just re-read a couple articles- the diesel is coming in 2012, not 2011 as i had misremembered. MX-5 redux is coming in 2011 and i found one http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe...rticle1624694/ from canada that mentions the cx-5(not by name) as the replacement for the Tribute


as well as bring a new compact crossover to market to replace the current Tribute. The new crossover will not be a shared platform with the Ford Escape, which has been the case up to now.

MattMPS 07-27-2010 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by zoom44 (Post 3650494)
and i've just re-read a couple articles- the diesel is coming in 2012, not 2011 as i had misremembered. MX-5 redux is coming in 2011 and i found one http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe...rticle1624694/ from canada that mentions the cx-5(not by name) as the replacement for the Tribute

i bet on cx7/9 II gen diesel for US....2012......

there are always the concerns about the "big" platform of Mazda (mazda6, cx7/9 and MPV) after the drawback of Ford (they will sobstitute Mazda platform with Mondeo platform for some Ford/Lincoln veichles).


a completely new one ? Mazda will go alone? or use the Mondeo platform?

EDIT: this news is strictly related IMHO

http://e.nikkei.com/e/fr/tnks/Nni20100727D27JSN01.htm


in my opinion Mazda MUST go with a more special product in this segment...the war against Camry and Accord is loose....same thing here in EU


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