I might be leaving u guys for a sti
Well guys i think i might be trading my car i have an appointment this afternoon to test drive one i love my rx8 but not very happy with my horsepower lets see how i feel when i sit in the sti if i do purchase the first thing thats going is the ugly wing :(
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Hey if thats what you want to do good luck. If you really like the style of the WRX then there is nothing really bad to say about the car. Good luck--let us know how it turns out.
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i belive the wing on the STI is a functional wing and the tuning of the suspension system takes its downforce/stability into account, so just taking it off should be ok for daily driving but i dunno about a track day or highspeed.
Also if you make the switch, you should be pretty used to the MPGs it pretty much the same. I love the STI, esp the new 06 body, very neat looking car and good performance. enjoy it if you do get it post some pics. For me it would be white with gold wheels or blue with gold wheels...mmmm mmmm When you say your not happy with the horsepower...do you mean the numbers people are getting, or the actual feel of the speed in the car. I always wonder that, if there wasnt a number put with the power of the car, I mean if you only had to judge the power by speed and feel, would there be as many people unhappy with the 8? I think the car feels descently fast, especialy for a 3300lb car (me in the car with some gas) with 180hp at the wheels I think it moves pretty good. |
Oh dont get me wrong my 8 is no snail but after my mods i feel i should of had more horsepower when i dynoed the car it was a very sad afternoon. I think ill go with silver on silver or blue and gold well see right now iam just going to test drive i know the car inside is no way compare to my 8 so that will disappoint me right off but i think the all wheel drive will get me hooked!!
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you could always turbo, I mean, wouldnt the cost of you putting a GReddy with the Interceptor-X EMS be cheaper then the difference for an STI? I mean, trade in wise, youll get alot less then the purchase price, and the STI is more expensive to start with. You could make more then the STI with a turbo as well.
I dunno, Im just thinking cost benefit wise, the money you put into a good turbo set up, will give you a car that I beileve will be faster then the STI. Just a thought If not, enjoy your STI, theyre wicked cars |
And another one bites the dust...good luck on the new car
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only complaints you can have about the sti are
1) looks. 2) comfort. it's pretty tiny. it's funny watching a somewhat tall person try to sit in the front seat when someone is sitting behind him. it's a harsh ride in the back seats too. none of that stuff matters though if you're going for performance. it's quite the addicting ride and you'll hate the lack of hp on your 8 even more after driving the STi. :) |
thanks heads up ill see what happens
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Enjoy. It's an awesome performance car. You don't have to go though.
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Originally Posted by Chrisbert
Enjoy. It's an awesome performance car. You don't have to go though.
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hahaha he's kidding. i hope.
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Of course he is, he doesn't even OWN an 8
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Originally Posted by guy321
Of course he is, he doesn't even OWN an 8
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Originally Posted by smrx8
Well guys i think i might be trading my car i have an appointment this afternoon to test drive one i love my rx8 but not very happy with my horsepower lets see how i feel when i sit in the sti if i do purchase the first thing thats going is the ugly wing :(
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funny you say this thanks, I send out a quote for both so far only subaru has contacted me will see what happens.
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Originally Posted by Steiner
...it goes without saying that it'd be worth your while to test drive an Evo as well...
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Originally Posted by HeelnToe
Agreed. Plus the Evo tends to be a couple grand cheaper than the STi, yes?
BTW...smrx8...the Evo is not offered with side-impact airbags and in 2003 and 2004 they offered NO subsequent side protection whatsoever beside your door. The 2005 model has reinforced door beams. If safety is a concern, both cars are best of class in frontal crash test safety. The Impreza's front seat occupants fair better in side impact collisions though. |
I made the rx8 to STi jump and haven't regreted it for a second...sure i miss the smooth ride and pleasing cockpit...but who needs that when your one of the fastest cars on the road...this car is pure excitement...but i'd wait for the 06.... thats if you like the new look...just traded in my 04 sti for an 06
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Originally Posted by KYLiquid
i belive the wing on the STI is a functional wing and the tuning of the suspension system takes its downforce/stability into account, so just taking it off should be ok for daily driving but i dunno about a track day or highspeed.
Also if you make the switch, you should be pretty used to the MPGs it pretty much the same. I love the STI, esp the new 06 body, very neat looking car and good performance. enjoy it if you do get it post some pics. For me it would be white with gold wheels or blue with gold wheels...mmmm mmmm When you say your not happy with the horsepower...do you mean the numbers people are getting, or the actual feel of the speed in the car. I always wonder that, if there wasnt a number put with the power of the car, I mean if you only had to judge the power by speed and feel, would there be as many people unhappy with the 8? I think the car feels descently fast, especialy for a 3300lb car (me in the car with some gas) with 180hp at the wheels I think it moves pretty good. |
Well, I purchased both in 2004, since I was unable to decide which one I wanted as a fun car. It turned out that neither was the right choice for a fun car, but then the decision came for which will work better as a year round daily, since we have harsh winters. The RX8 lost that battle, and an S2000 took it's place as my pure fun summer car, and I have no regrets. I can't say I chose the STI over RX8 directly. Two things made it a no brainer. Practicality, and year round driveability. In your situation, it appears performance is what's most important, so it's the right call. Having used both as half daily drivers/ fun cars, I have to say the STI is just a better choice for me personally. You get that amazing performance, more room, better gas mileage (26-28mpg highway), and my personal experience says more durability and less headaches of having to take it to dealer all the time, as was the case with my RX8. I will say, I miss miss the stunning looks, comfort, and the amenities. For me, all the goodies offered were what fits well for a daily driver, not a fun summer car. If I lived in Florida, the STI would have been gone plain and simple. If you are buying this as a pure fun car, I'd definitely check out the EVO as well. If this is gonna be a daily, my opinion says the STI is the better choice over the EVO. The EVO is pure hardcore, whereas the STI isn't as nimble, and more daily friendly, without sacfiricing power. Enjoy. :)
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I have driven those 2 cars and they are ok, but I think the VW R32 is the best out of the all wheel drive pocket rockets. It is hard to find one though.
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Originally Posted by 10kRPMS
I have driven those 2 cars and they are ok, but I think the VW R32 is the best out of the all wheel drive pocket rockets. It is hard to find one though.
I agree, with the exception of it's rarity and insanely high price used. IMO, it's not better enough to spend a couple grand more for a used one over STI and EVO. I test drove a preowned 04 at dealer, and loved it, except for the fact that dealer wasn't willing to budge an inch, knowing it would sell easily. It is considerably slower, and handling is not as good as an STI, but it's luxurious, and very refined. The problem was they made only 5000 of them, and never since. Those 5000 sold fast, and that car is gonna hold it's value very well for a long time. They are not that hard to find used. You just can't find a deal on them like STI, RX8 and EVO. If you want one, you gots to pay $$$$. |
The R32 is a cool car but it is a little bit overpriced. My buddy bought one in the summer of '04 and loves it. He's not really a "car guy" though, so it's still bone stock and I doubt that will ever change. It does make for a decent tuning platform though, albeit a normally aspirated one. I personally like the R32. If I had the money I'd get one for my daily driver (I need a hatch really bad right now) and then mod the snot out of the Evo. But back when I was looking at the Evo it never entered into my mind. It might have a few more creature comforts, but for the price and the sacrifice in performance...no way. It was either gonna be an Evo or STi for me.
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Originally Posted by 10kRPMS
I have driven those 2 cars and they are ok, but I think the VW R32 is the best out of the all wheel drive pocket rockets. It is hard to find one though.
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Wow, seeing quite a number of switchers :D
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Originally Posted by Shiri
Wow, seeing quite a number of switchers :D
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I'm sure there are many that are switchers from the 8. Just as there are from the evo or STi. Those that bought the 8 for all out power realize other cars can beat it in a straight line. OMG. They are the ones that switch. The ones that bought the evo or sti that just loved that straight line power learn that the cheap looks and feel get old real quick.
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Originally Posted by VikingDJ
It's got advantages, but none of them are pure performance oriented. Of course the refinement is far far superior. You drive one and you get the feel you are driving an elegant luxury sports machine, with very respectable power, unlike the EVO or STI. It has an amazing sound to it, it's extremely comfortable, quieter, obviously much more friendly on bumpy roads, it's shifting is considerably better, It's N/A power is so smooth, and addictive for many, and as an STI owner I am allowed to say it looks nicer, but of course looks are subjective. It's more elegant and less boy toyish, cheap econo looking. However, if you rate cars on just power and performance, then this car can't compete. Arguments can be made on either end, but I think VW would be smart to bring this car back ASAP, as it sold it's first 5000 models faster then the EVO or STI. It's just a vehicle that's gonna appeal to a wider mass, because it has those intangibles that the EVO and STI don't have, while still performing extremely well. :)
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Originally Posted by scottmhr1
I'm sure there are many that are switchers from the 8. Just as there are from the evo or STi. Those that bought the 8 for all out power realize other cars can beat it in a straight line. OMG. They are the ones that switch. The ones that bought the evo or sti that just loved that straight line power learn that the cheap looks and feel get old real quick.
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Originally Posted by IkeWRX
The exhaust note on the R32 is nice, though I still prefer the Boxer sound. You say it feels like a luxury sports machine, I say it feels like a heavy German car. Don't get me wrong, I like the car quite a bit, but it's not for me nor for people with performance and modding potential high on their list (unless you want to toss HPA 15k). As for the selling 5k models faster than Evo and STi do you have anything to back that up? I looked at one long after release and they were ready to deal, the dealer they owned in the next town over had two others and they were ready to get them off their lots.
That was my opinion and personal experience in my area.The R32 sold faster based on where I live. That I know is true. As a whole, it sure as hell seems that way, but who really knows. I do know that the R32 came out considerably later as an 04 model then the STI, and I was having a very difficult time finding one at the time I got my STI. When the dealers got the R32 in, it sold right away. I needed to make up my mind immediately if I wanted an R32, where as I could sit all day and toy with the dealers for an STI. The Vw dealership didn't even care if I bought it or not. I ran into the same problem with the S2k, so I guess it's alll about where you live. It made my decision easier to get the STI. I love all cars, and will only talk good things about them. I won't boost my own car anymore then I will a car I do not own. If I don't like a car, I simply will not tlak about it. You won't find many like me. :) |
Originally Posted by IkeWRX
What are you talking about, I OWN them all the time :p
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Well from my experience you won't be disappointed. I didn't trade my 8 for an STi but purchased one before I decided to axe the 8 for a Titan. The wife drives the STi and I drive the Titan which is the only regret I have for trading my car, but since I make the payments on both she's pretty willing to let me drive it whenever I want.
I haven't missed the 8 for any reason other than navigation which I used maybe every other month. |
Originally Posted by smrx8
Well guys i think i might be trading my car i have an appointment this afternoon to test drive one i love my rx8 but not very happy with my horsepower lets see how i feel when i sit in the sti if i do purchase the first thing thats going is the ugly wing :(
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The dealer near me has 4 06 models there in four different colors. My opinion of it has changed, now that I have seen it in person. I think it's looks nicer then my 04. I swore I would not like it when looking at the pics, but once I saw it, I was wishing my front end looked like that. I'd look into an 06 if you do decide to get one. The new design is going to grow on people, and many bashers of the new style will become fanbois. The ones that think the STI is ugly, now, will always think it's ugly. :)
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I'm still waiting for my dealer to get some in, but I don't see that happening soon :(
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Hmm.. someone said that if "all out performance" is your goal, go with the STI? If all out performance is your goal, and you have that kind of money to spend, why not go with a car that is also comfortable and roomy. A GTO comes to mind. Bigger, faster engine, great gas mileage, and easily modified. If I lived somewhere where I didn't appreciate the RX-8's amazing handling characteristics, I'd definitely be going with something that was just insanely ballsy. An STI is quick, but that interior is junk, it's uncomfortable, and it's engine still has to wind to wring out the power. No, a GTO can't outhandle it, but obviously handling isn't your greatest concern if you don't appreciate the 8.
Just my .02 |
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