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TALAN7 12-01-2011 04:54 PM

Hyundai considering turbo v8 or v8 for Genesis coupe
 
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...comment-376279

With the debut of a new 5.0-liter Tau V8 in the Genesis Sedan R-Spec and rumors that it will find its way under the hood of the Genesis Coupe, Hyundai isn’t necessarily committed to eight-cylinders. That’s not surprising as the industry moves towards forced induction options like turbocharging and supercharging in order to deliver ideal power levels with reduced fuel consumption.

At a recent product preview and engineering tech session at Hyundai Motor America’s technical center in Ann Arbor, MI, powertrain boss John Juriga admitted that a turbocharged version of the company’s 3.8-liter V6 (offered in both the Genesis coupe and sedan) is a possibility for the future. “The 3.8 is a contender for turbocharging for some high-output applications,” he said. In fact, Juriga did one better, going on to comment that such an engine already exists and is undergoing testing. Speaking with AutoGuide, Jurega qualified that statement, commenting that the Hyundai engineering team is constantly exploring new engine options and that the existence of a prototype is no guarantee that such an engine will make it into production.

Expanding on Juriga’s comments, HMA CEO John Krafcik indicated that the Korean automaker is currently at a crossroads as to its future engine plans for its high-performance and premium models. Krafcik referenced the brand’s two SEMA Show Genesis Coupe concept cars, one powered by a 5.0-liter V8, the other by a supercharged 3.8-liter V6. The two cars, he explains, were built to generate feedback, to see which method of power delivery is preferred, with the more traditional high-displacement V8 versus the forced induction option. I like that they're looking to the public

“We’re looking for feedback from you folks,” said Krafcik, speaking to the assembled journalists. AutoGuide was obviously more enamored with the V8 option when we got a chance to see both cars at the SEMA Show, although a turbocharged V6 option, versus a supercharged one, might change that. What would you rather have?

9krpmrx8 12-01-2011 05:04 PM

Very tempting indeed. Rhyes Millen Genesis Coupe with Hyundai 5.0-liter Tau V8. 450HP.

http://newscarprices.com/wp-content/...esis-rm500.jpg
http://newscarprices.com/wp-content/...esis-rm500.jpg

pking1122 12-01-2011 07:24 PM

Turbo V6 for me.

monchie 12-01-2011 09:10 PM

What's up with Hyundai! From my perspective, Hyundai is improving their cars way better than other car companies. I never owned a Hyundai before in my life, but it seems i'm kneeling into it.

Globetrahter 12-02-2011 09:13 AM

A V8 Turbo would be dope!

TALAN7 12-02-2011 12:11 PM

I think a v8, no matter how awesome it would be, would turn this car into a muscle car and affect handling

9krpmrx8 12-02-2011 01:35 PM

Is the V8 M3 a muscle car? Lots of sports car have V-8's.

Chris 12-02-2011 01:38 PM

seriously. audi does it, bmw does it, and the list goes on

bose 12-02-2011 02:28 PM

Almost every drift car that actually does well has a v8 swap.

Saying a V8=muscle car is fail.

TALAN7 12-02-2011 03:17 PM

You are all correct

Chris 12-02-2011 03:21 PM

^ that was easy :lol:

if they do go through with this, it would make a fantastic coupe. Hyundai just keeps getting better and better. Soon they will be expensive :(

TALAN7 12-02-2011 03:22 PM

How does this car handle? I've never driven one.

9krpmrx8 12-02-2011 03:36 PM

I test drove a "track packaged" Coupe with the V-6, Brembo brakes, etc. It handled well, but not as well as my 8. The salesmen let me rip on it and I did not feel as comfortable in it. But with some seat time I could see myself owning one.

http://www.stanceworks.com/wp-conten...Genesis-4.jpeg

Roidz 12-02-2011 04:40 PM

I really like the genesis coupe. I saw a really cool looking one in so cal a couple weeks ago driving down the 5 (should have snapped a pic). I'm excited for the new one to come out and see what it's all about.

8 Maniac 12-02-2011 05:14 PM

I still think Talan has a point... V8 doesn't inherently mean muscle car, but a move in that direction might mean it becomes more like a muscle car if they take the car in the wrong direction. Notice that all of the examples mentioned are in significantly different price ranges. The new 5.0 mustangs would be a better comparison, though many refuse to consider those sports cars in spite of the impressive performance.

I don't hate V8's and I actually like quite a few V8 cars, but I kind of like or dislike a car getting a V8 based on feel. I preferred the I6 M3's more than the new V8. It still performs great, but it just doesn't fit my concept of the M3. I feel the same way with the Audi S4. I have a B5 S4 with the bi-turbo V6 engine and I would not trade it for the B6 or B7, which both had the 4.2L V8 engine. I love the B8's with the supercharged V6. A turbo V6 mustang doesn't sound/feel right. The new 5.0's are impressive and I wouldn't want that to change. A turbo 6 cylinder vette would be wrong, even if it performed well.

A turbo 6 cylinder engine just seems right for the genesis, not a V8. If it gets a V8, I can't help but feel it will tip more in the direction of muscle car and move away from the sports car realm.

pdxhak 12-02-2011 05:23 PM

The motor fits in the bay so nice. Looks like it was meant to be there.

9krpmrx8 12-02-2011 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by pdxhak (Post 4136894)
The motor fits in the bay so nice. Looks like it was meant to be there.


Forward thinking I think.

TALAN7 12-02-2011 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by 8 Maniac (Post 4136889)
I still think Talan has a point... V8 doesn't inherently mean muscle car, but a move in that direction might mean it becomes more like a muscle car if they take the car in the wrong direction. Notice that all of the examples mentioned are in significantly different price ranges. The new 5.0 mustangs would be a better comparison, though many refuse to consider those sports cars in spite of the impressive performance.

I don't hate V8's and I actually like quite a few V8 cars, but I kind of like or dislike a car getting a V8 based on feel. I preferred the I6 M3's more than the new V8. It still performs great, but it just doesn't fit my concept of the M3. I feel the same way with the Audi S4. I have a B5 S4 with the bi-turbo V6 engine and I would not trade it for the B6 or B7, which both had the 4.2L V8 engine. I love the B8's with the supercharged V6. A turbo V6 mustang doesn't sound/feel right. The new 5.0's are impressive and I wouldn't want that to change. A turbo 6 cylinder vette would be wrong, even if it performed well.

A turbo 6 cylinder engine just seems right for the genesis, not a V8. If it gets a V8, I can't help but feel it will tip more in the direction of muscle car and move away from the sports car realm.

Exactly my point. Unless they put a lot of money into other aspects of the performance of the car it just becomes a coupe with a big engine. That's good but what level of performance are they shooting for? Mustang GT, Camaro SS, or Shelby/CTS-V?

bose 12-02-2011 07:22 PM

Muscle cars are big an heavy as fuuu. This would still be sub 3500lbs, it has sleek styling and there is something to be said about 400+ ft lbs of torque, naturally aspirated.
I would probably scoop one up if the price was good, hell you get a 10 year warranty.

monchie 12-04-2011 12:30 AM


Originally Posted by RWD+LSD=Zoom (Post 4136823)
Hyundai just keeps getting better and better. Soon they will be expensive :(


I'll bet...lol

Harrigan 12-04-2011 12:40 AM

bottom line its still Korean made......

8 Maniac 12-04-2011 01:55 AM


Originally Posted by Harrigan (Post 4137476)
bottom line its still Korean made......

And?...

Harrigan 12-04-2011 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by 8 Maniac (Post 4137492)
And?...

Hyundai doesnt seem to have the best quality made cars. Thats why they sell them for so cheap. Like a brand new hyundai accent is like 9 grand and looks like a tin can on wheels. I dont know just not my preferance of choice.

8 Maniac 12-04-2011 03:53 PM

They're fairly reliable and, from what I've seen, the materials aren't terrible in quality. I wouldn't have bought a tiburon... but I know that some of their higher end cars have been pretty nice for a while and I've heard rather good things in recent years for their cars in general. The genesis has been rather well praised... still needs bit more time to see how long term reliability will be.

Some Hyundai cars are manufactured in the US. The genesis is manufactured in Korea though.

Roidz 12-04-2011 07:46 PM

I dunno Harrigan, I'm liking my 2012 sonata. It's no rx8 obviously, but I would say the quality is pretty damn good.


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