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gwilliams6 06-13-2016 10:49 PM

Fiat's Spider version of MX5, built by Mazda
 
2017 Fiat 124 Spider First Drive ? Review ? Car and Driver

BigBadChris 06-13-2016 10:55 PM

Interesting review. Jalopnik said they didn't like the automatic (not surprising, they all have a weird obsession with the third pedal). The other review also didn't like the Fiat six speed, saying it was leftover from the NC. The fiancée wants a Miata, I wonder if I can steer her towards this? Also, holy crap 22 psi of boost.

wannawankel 06-14-2016 09:46 AM

Turbo and Miata are a great combination. Looking forward to test driving this.

NotAPreppie 06-14-2016 01:10 PM

I enjoyed the review from Jack Baruth at The Truth About Cars.
2017 Fiat 124 Spider Review ? Shhh, Don't Say Its Name

A Unichip on the 500 Abarth with the same turbo engine gets you north of 220hp... That would be a hoot to drive in RWD roadster form.

77mjd 06-14-2016 07:39 PM

Am I the only one who can't stand how ugly that screen looks sticking out of the dash like that? It looks like it doesn't belong there. I know it's copied from Mazda, but I hate it so much it would be a deal breaker. I would not buy any car that has that.

Nisaja 06-15-2016 12:21 AM

It would've been cool if they did a pop up screen like in the RX-8. I always thought they were pretty neat. Even Aston Martins have them!

NotAPreppie 06-15-2016 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by 77mjd (Post 4766000)
Am I the only one who can't stand how ugly that screen looks sticking out of the dash like that? It looks like it doesn't belong there. I know it's copied from Mazda, but I hate it so much it would be a deal breaker. I would not buy any car that has that.

It does look tacked on at the last minute. They're half-way between it being a permanent fixture versus upgradable device.

hornbm 06-15-2016 10:01 AM

Yeah nearly all the German makes are doing that now. It looks stupid as hell. The screen should be fully integrated into the dash.

gwilliams6 06-15-2016 10:37 AM

Here's Why Americans Will Buy the Fiat 124 Spider Over the Mazda Miata

Nice video here with twisty driving shots, but its the lower-powered Euro version Spider they are driving on European roads, so no impressions of the higher hp American version Spider. Still some good comments of how it compares to the MX5

77mjd 06-15-2016 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by hornbm (Post 4766096)
Yeah nearly all the German makes are doing that now. It looks stupid as hell. The screen should be fully integrated into the dash.

Exactly. Design-wise, it doesn't look natural at all. I see it looks retarded on the new CX-9 as well. Yet my friend has a new CX-5 where the screen is more integrated into the dash and I think that is the only car in Mazda's lineup that has it like that. It's much better looking.

Gravey 06-15-2016 01:23 PM

^ It looks like a tablet just stuck into the dash... now if it actually was a tablet and removable... No... I probably still wouldn't like it then either! :lol:

redcivic 06-15-2016 03:44 PM

160HP? I bet that thing is a beast.

Bladecutter 06-15-2016 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by redcivic (Post 4766159)
160HP? I bet that thing is a beast.

You didn't read the article, did you?


Originally Posted by Car&Driver
There’s a nice surge of turbo boost and torque at about 2000 rpm, but the thrust tapers off beyond the 5500-rpm power peak. Unlike the Miata, which is good to the last rev, the Fiat’s final 1000 rpm before its 6500-rpm redline isn’t worth exploring. Compared with the 155-hp 2.0-liter in the Miata, the turbocharged engine comes across as lazier and less eager to be abused. Some of that is certainly due to the easy flow of low-end torque, but the Fiat never feels any stronger than the naturally aspirated Miata. Turbo lag is present, but it’s easy to mitigate by keeping the revs above 2000 rpm. However, should you roll through a stop in second gear and lug the engine down to idle, you’ll find there’s a delay before the engine wakes up. Fiat claims a zero-to-60-mph time of 6.8 seconds. We think that’s slightly conservative—after all, we’ve achieved a 5.9-second zero-to-60 time in the Miata—but we won’t know for sure until we’ve tested the 124.

Here, that should help you.

BC.

Soldier 06-16-2016 03:49 AM

can't wait for the Alfa version

redcivic 06-16-2016 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by Bladecutter (Post 4766168)
You didn't read the article, did you?



Here, that should help you.

BC.

I was being sarcastic :)

Gravey 06-16-2016 10:13 AM

^NO SARCASM ALLOWED!!!!

...ahem... nothing to see here...


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