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zoom44 07-10-2013 08:39 PM

EPA rates 2014 Mazda 3 Hatch
 
2014 Mazda 3 and 2014 Infiniti Q50 Rated by the EPA - Rumor Central


Although Mazda says it cannot yet confirm ratings for the 2014 Mazda 3 five-door, the EPA says the 2014 Mazda 3 with the 155hp, 2.0-liter Skyactiv four-cylinder engine is rated at 30/40mpg city/highway when equipped with the six-speed automatic transmission and 29/40mpg city/highway when equipped with the six-speed manual transmission. Combined ratings are 33mpg regardless of transmission choice.

Interestingly, this falls short of Mazda’s 41mpg highway target, which Mazda says it maintains despite these government ratings. Since these ratings are for the five-door model only, it could be that only the sedan model will achieve the 41mpg highway rating.

There is no official word yet on ratings of the 184hp, 2.5-liter Skyactiv four-cylinder engine that will also be available in the 3 although Mazda said it targets 40mpg highway for the 2.5-liter engine with the i-ELOOP regenerative braking system. The larger Mazda 6 equipped with the same powertrain was recently rated at 40mpg highway so the smaller 3 should easily achieve the same number.

Regardless of engine choice, the 2014 Mazda 3’s 40mpg highway rating is competitive in the compact segment. Other models are able to achieve the magic 40mpg number, but only with special fuel economy packages like the 2013 Ford Focus SFE, 2013 Chevrolet Cruze Eco, and 2013 Nissan Sentra FE.


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SayNoToPistons 07-10-2013 08:51 PM

Wow that is surprising, given the lower frontal area (unknown cg) and weight than the Mazda6. Though city MPG looks outstanding. Also surprised that the Senta got it beat since it is 1 mpg lower hwy and the SkyActiv transmission is eager to upshift and only uses the torque converter from a dead stop going into first. The rest are locked wet clutches

zoom44 07-10-2013 09:36 PM


Originally Posted by SayNoToPistons (Post 4498642)
Wow that is surprising, given the lower frontal area (unknown cg) than the Mazda6. Though city MPG looks outstanding. Also surprised that the Senta got it beat since it is 1 mpg lower hwy and the SkyActiv transmission is eager to upshift and only uses the torque converter from a dead stop going into first. The rest are locked wet clutches

city is where it really is beating the others and remember this is without ieloop:) the Sentra is not winning even though it can state a higher combined because it is less on the hwy. and nobody wants a cvt if they have a choice.

3 is better than anyone not using a high efficiency package and prmium gas required. when it gets the eloop it will be trouncing those as well. Sedan will likely be 1 or 2 mpg higher even still :)

SayNoToPistons 07-10-2013 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by zoom44 (Post 4498652)
city is where it really is beating the others and remember this is without ieloop:) the Sentra is not winning even though it can state a higher combined because it is less on the hwy. and nobody wants a cvt if they have a choice.

3 is better than anyone not using a high efficiency package and prmium gas required. when it gets the eloop it will be trouncing those as well. Sedan will likely be 1 or 2 mpg higher even still :)

Well CVT in the U.S. is typical sales advantage, because the acronym simply impresses the usual econobox buyer. Actually most people that do drive CVT equipped Altima, Senta, etc don't care or even know what a CVT is. They just care for the "increased gas mileage with the CVT."

iEloop will without a doubt add to its efficiency, but it will also add to its price. Whether or not that justifies the +1 or +2 mpg is another debate.

With that said, the MZ3 is without a doubt a better car. Presumably quicker, better build quality, more features, more sophisticated, and without a doubt a better driving car.

Bladecutter 07-11-2013 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by SayNoToPistons (Post 4498642)
Also surprised that the Senta got it beat since it is 1 mpg lower hwy and the SkyActiv transmission is eager to upshift and only uses the torque converter from a dead stop going into first. The rest are locked wet clutches

Remember that the Sentra has it beat in EPA tests.
The real world driving always shows that CVT's aren't nearly as good at highway speeds as a standard transmission.

Combine that with the fact that the Senta has a very anemic 124 or 130 hp 1.8 liter 4 cylinder engine, and people are going to have their feet planted to the floor at highway speeds. The Mazda 3 with it's 2.0 engine, and 155 hp are going to win over sales if anyone directly cross shops the two cars.

More power, a real transmission, better driving dynamics, and still the same fuel economy (more in real world driving, too). It will all come down to price and looks at that point for most shoppers.

And the Sentra is 39 MPG only on the non-FE+ packages.
They get higher using low rolling resistance tires (kill the traction, kill the fun), plus aerodynamic tweaks. Mazda gets the same fuel economy without extra tricks, on all of its packages. When they add in their i-ELOOP system, they still won't need to add as much stuff to the car as Nissan will.

BC.

nycgps 07-11-2013 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by SayNoToPistons (Post 4498676)
Well CVT in the U.S. is typical sales advantage, because the acronym simply impresses the usual econobox buyer. Actually most people that do drive CVT equipped Altima, Senta, etc don't care or even know what a CVT is. They just care for the "increased gas mileage with the CVT."

iEloop will without a doubt add to its efficiency, but it will also add to its price. Whether or not that justifies the +1 or +2 mpg is another debate.

With that said, the MZ3 is without a doubt a better car. Presumably quicker, better build quality, more features, more sophisticated, and without a doubt a better driving car.

CVT is garbage, breaks easily, shitty drive-ability, not as good mpg as it claims, but hey, people are DUMB ENOUGH to buy it because of "OMG gets an holy 1 mpg extra on PAPER!"

too bad I had no intention to trade the 2010 3 in yet. maybe one day.


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