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Nick04 05-13-2009 01:19 PM

Cops jurisdiction?
 
okay so my friend got pulled over for speeding in GILBERT by a TEMPE cop. Can the cop still write him a ticket even though it is not in the cop's city? The tempe cop was taking radar in gilbert and i thought that was kind of odd and was questioning whether he had jurisdiction to or not.

zoom44 05-13-2009 01:38 PM

was he in HOT PURSUIT?!


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Jedi54 05-13-2009 02:07 PM

how bout your friend stops speeding...

ATL-GP 05-13-2009 02:14 PM

....possibly, some places have concurrent jurisdiction with each other. If the cop bothered to write it up 9 times out of 10 he can.

YaXMaNGTO 05-13-2009 02:19 PM

FTW zoom44!!! :D:

Exactly what I thought when I read the post... HAHAHA

Transam kid 01 05-13-2009 02:22 PM

IIRC, they are allowed to pull you over in another town (while frowned upon). I'm not sure if they need to get permission first, however.

CyberPitz 05-13-2009 02:32 PM

Depending on the city and their laws, the cops can follow you into another jurisdiction to ticket you if the offense happened on their side. That's how it works here in Joplin with the surrounding cities.

Nick04 05-13-2009 06:44 PM

well the cop was sitting in gilbert taking radar. PLUS the officer put that the offense was committed in CHANDLER, not GILBERT. I think there is a good chance that if he fights this, he will win.

gbellx 05-13-2009 07:34 PM

I don't see him winning. The reason why I think that is because he was speeding...all the officer has to say is "what was I supposed to do...let him speed?"

IMO...your friend knows the speed limit, he was caught...game over.

Flashwing 05-13-2009 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by Nick04 (Post 3019401)
well the cop was sitting in gilbert taking radar. PLUS the officer put that the offense was committed in CHANDLER, not GILBERT. I think there is a good chance that if he fights this, he will win.

The police here in Arizona don't have typical jurisdiction like you might find in other states. Police here are able to stop and issue citations anywhere.

Having the city wrong on the ticket will probably not be enough to have it thrown out of court.

Either way, I'd go to court as your chances otherwise are 0% of winning.

MikeW 05-17-2009 04:19 PM

Fight this nonsense/tyranny.
Driving for commerce is a privilege. (look at the history of trucking/CDL0 Driving for travel is a right.
http://medicolegal.tripod.com/speedlimits.htm

Nick04 05-18-2009 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by MikeW (Post 3025202)
Fight this nonsense/tyranny.
Driving for commerce is a privilege. (look at the history of trucking/CDL0 Driving for travel is a right.
http://medicolegal.tripod.com/speedlimits.htm


how do i fight it though? i think the cops are allowed to go from city to city.

MikeW 05-18-2009 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by Nick04 (Post 3026101)
how do i fight it though? i think the cops are allowed to go from city to city.

It depends. Did you friend already fall into one of the cops tricks 'do you know why I stopped you?'
If he admitted to 'speeding' then you are screwed.-best to try to get traffic school or something like that.

Yes jurisdiction is something that can be raised (unless the state has some mutual reciprocation agreement-which itself isn't lawful)

But the cop will probably testa-lie, or lie-ify saying he was in his jurisdiction when he 'observed you violating the law'

So you might have to try to haggle with the prosecutor.

Nick04 05-18-2009 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by MikeW (Post 3026105)
It depends. Did you friend already fall into one of the cops tricks 'do you know why I stopped you?'
If he admitted to 'speeding' then you are screwed.-best to try to get traffic school or something like that.

Yes jurisdiction is something that can be raised (unless the state has some mutual reciprocation agreement-which itself isn't lawful)

But the cop will probably testa-lie, or lie-ify saying he was in his jurisdiction when he 'observed you violating the law'

So you might have to try to haggle with the prosecutor.

No he didnt admit to speeding. I think he is just going to haggle the cop by asking why he was in gilbert when he is a tempe cop. and why he wrote chandler on the ticket even though it happened in gilbert. just to prove that the cop had no right bieng there seeing as though he doesnt even know the area.

c0ldf1ame 05-18-2009 05:52 PM

has the road been surveyed by an traffic engineer in the last couple of years? i dont know about your state but in CA they need a current traffic survey for radar readings to hold up in court

shazy 05-18-2009 06:07 PM

Up north we don't have much jurisdiction...

laythor 05-18-2009 06:13 PM

A cop can give you a ticket on any public street.. this isnt the movies and the "county line" is not an invisible force field.

I would advise your friend to give up hopes that the cop from city a wrote a ticket in city b and used city c's name defense...

He sped, he got caught, if he wants to fight it stick the the normal ways to try and get off

1. fight the radar/lidar reading
2. go to court and hope the cop doesnt show up
3. do a trail by mail if your able to


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