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delhi 04-28-2008 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by Endless Rotaries (Post 2432943)
Hey Mike,

what did they give you for the 8?

Rishie

Happy Meal coupons. :lol2:

Moostafa29 04-28-2008 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by Endless Rotaries (Post 2432943)
Hey Mike,

what did they give you for the 8?

Rishie

$13k. I took it since I got the X loaded for $33k.

alienRX8 04-28-2008 03:55 PM

wow the X GSR loaded foes for 43k here :(

Ajax 04-28-2008 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by Moostafa29 (Post 2433011)
$13k. I took it since I got the X loaded for $33k.

Better than most offers I've seen.
I'd gladly take that for my car, but I don't have coil overs, lol ;)

Moostafa29 04-28-2008 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by alienRX8 (Post 2433028)
wow the X GSR loaded foes for 43k here :(

Thats why I jumped quicker than I had planned. The dealer was selling them at cost, about 2k under the invoice. If anyone is interested, I can send them info on who to contact.

Moostafa29 04-28-2008 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by Ajax (Post 2433035)
Better than most offers I've seen.
I'd gladly take that for my car, but I don't have coil overs, lol ;)

Mine were only Tein basics.

superglue 04-28-2008 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by Ike (Post 2432706)
Drive both back to back and you won't even give the STI a second look. Unless of course you really need that extra storage space.

Couldn't do it. I've had a terrific experience with my WRX and Subaru has won my trust. Especially after seeing a few of my friends and family having their various DSM models bite the dust.

Even if the STI does come with a shitty stock tune like the 07s did, I know it's running a tried and true drive train (as outdated and simple as it is). Plus, if I were to spend that much cash on a 4 door sedan, might as well make it a 5 door.

nycgps 04-28-2008 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by Moostafa29 (Post 2433059)
Mine were only Tein basics.

Damn 33 K ? Really ?

Thats a GREAT deal if u ask me.

Local Mitsu dealer wants 38K for it ! Another local Mitsu dealer wants 40 K !

I was like wtf ?

SlideWayz 04-28-2008 09:45 PM

The Evo still looks like what it is: a tarted-up econobox with go fast parts.

The RX-8, on the other hand, is a purpose built GT and looks the part...like, about 1,000,000 times better looking than the Evo.

If only we could get a hot 2 liter turbo 4 and AWD in the 8, then we'd really have something!

nycgps 04-28-2008 10:05 PM


Originally Posted by SlideWayz (Post 2433795)
The Evo still looks like what it is: a tarted-up econobox with go fast parts.

The RX-8, on the other hand, is a purpose built GT and looks the part...like, about 1,000,000 times better looking than the Evo.

If only we could get a hot 2 liter turbo 4 and AWD in the 8, then we'd really have something!

How about this ?

a Lancer (regular version) is a stripped down version of the l337 Evolution ?

You gotta understand Mitsubishi is NOT a huge company like Toyota.

Toyota can afford to have like 20 different body for all different kinds of buyers.

Mitsubishi on the other hand, can only afford to have a few.

So what they can do is, Build a super car body then *strip it down* with whack options to cover the lower end buyers.

Aznxkaiser 04-28-2008 10:14 PM

Lol? Buy a new RX8 and add a turbo, tune,all the bolt ons necessary with it and the problems that come with it VS a factory turbo that will easily make over 300 WHP with a couple bolt ons?
The X is all aluminum, but Mitsubishi obviously knew that tuners would get as much power out of it as possible so they beefed it up. Read up on it, they did an incredible job making it out-of-the box ready to make incredible gains (It runs RICH).
The X does not look like a cheap econobox, and no it does not look the same as the GTS. Even the untrained eye can tell the difference, the X is way more aggressive looking. Please, go DRIVE one and tell me that the X sucks, or ANY evo sucks for that matter.

Previous DSM's had some problems but that was because many owners modded the hell out of them. Besides the X isn't a 4G, its a 4B. The only problems I have right now for a first model year car is the stupid factory tune they gave us, but I got a FREE reflash from mitsubishi fixing the power uptop.

Moostafa29 04-28-2008 10:33 PM


Originally Posted by Aznxkaiser (Post 2433862)
Lol? Buy a new RX8 and add a turbo, tune,all the bolt ons necessary with it and the problems that come with it VS a factory turbo that will easily make over 300 WHP with a couple bolt ons?
The X is all aluminum, but Mitsubishi obviously knew that tuners would get as much power out of it as possible so they beefed it up. Read up on it, they did an incredible job making it out-of-the box ready to make incredible gains (It runs RICH).
The X does not look like a cheap econobox, and no it does not look the same as the GTS. Even the untrained eye can tell the difference, the X is way more aggressive looking. Please, go DRIVE one and tell me that the X sucks, or ANY evo sucks for that matter.

Previous DSM's had some problems but that was because many owners modded the hell out of them. Besides the X isn't a 4G, its a 4B. The only problems I have right now for a first model year car is the stupid factory tune they gave us, but I got a FREE reflash from mitsubishi fixing the power uptop.

Couldn't have said it better. I am also now getting 26mpg with my pig rich tune. Can't wait to get things leaned out.

Aznxkaiser 04-28-2008 10:46 PM

You should get a cone air filter and make your own heat shield....yields some decent gains and you can hear your factory BoV. Or you can get some of the intakes out now =P Lean out the tune a bit..

nycgps 04-28-2008 11:09 PM


Originally Posted by Aznxkaiser (Post 2433862)
Lol? Buy a new RX8 and add a turbo, tune,all the bolt ons necessary with it and the problems that come with it VS a factory turbo that will easily make over 300 WHP with a couple bolt ons?
The X is all aluminum, but Mitsubishi obviously knew that tuners would get as much power out of it as possible so they beefed it up. Read up on it, they did an incredible job making it out-of-the box ready to make incredible gains (It runs RICH).
The X does not look like a cheap econobox, and no it does not look the same as the GTS. Even the untrained eye can tell the difference, the X is way more aggressive looking. Please, go DRIVE one and tell me that the X sucks, or ANY evo sucks for that matter.

Previous DSM's had some problems but that was because many owners modded the hell out of them. Besides the X isn't a 4G, its a 4B. The only problems I have right now for a first model year car is the stupid factory tune they gave us, but I got a FREE reflash from mitsubishi fixing the power uptop.

I think it looks pretty good. People hate it because they're either jealous, or like the older version better.

but I cant say for the engine. you might want to open it up after a while of crazy power. Cuz if you have seen HKS's picture about the engine. eww, it looks gross.

SlideWayz 04-28-2008 11:19 PM

FWIW, I think the Evo rocks hard in terms of the engine & tricky suspension.

It's just stone cold fugly sitting next to the RX-8. Not having a 6 speed is also lame...I don't care if it saves a shift on the 1/4 mile.

My next car will probably be either an Evo or a 135i, so there you have it. Going fast matters more than looking good.


Originally Posted by Aznxkaiser (Post 2433862)
Lol? Buy a new RX8 and add a turbo, tune,all the bolt ons necessary with it and the problems that come with it VS a factory turbo that will easily make over 300 WHP with a couple bolt ons?
The X is all aluminum, but Mitsubishi obviously knew that tuners would get as much power out of it as possible so they beefed it up. Read up on it, they did an incredible job making it out-of-the box ready to make incredible gains (It runs RICH).
The X does not look like a cheap econobox, and no it does not look the same as the GTS. Even the untrained eye can tell the difference, the X is way more aggressive looking. Please, go DRIVE one and tell me that the X sucks, or ANY evo sucks for that matter.

Previous DSM's had some problems but that was because many owners modded the hell out of them. Besides the X isn't a 4G, its a 4B. The only problems I have right now for a first model year car is the stupid factory tune they gave us, but I got a FREE reflash from mitsubishi fixing the power uptop.


Bumble_Bee 04-28-2008 11:33 PM

I couldn't trade looks for power.. I'll keep my "8"!!!

Ike 04-28-2008 11:33 PM


Originally Posted by superglue (Post 2433260)
Couldn't do it. I've had a terrific experience with my WRX and Subaru has won my trust. Especially after seeing a few of my friends and family having their various DSM models bite the dust.

Even if the STI does come with a shitty stock tune like the 07s did, I know it's running a tried and true drive train (as outdated and simple as it is). Plus, if I were to spend that much cash on a 4 door sedan, might as well make it a 5 door.

I am a previous WRX owner and that car served me very well. I think you're right to trust in Subaru, they make great cars. I thought for sure I'd end up with a STI once it came time to trade in the WRX. I test drove it a few times and the Evo a few times and I couldn't in good conscience buy the STI. The Evo was just the better drivers car by a good margin. That margin has grown wider with the new generation. I was hoping that wouldn't be the case since I really like the idea of a sporty wagon and was more than ready to get another Subaru. But, after driving the Evo X and the new STI it's clearer than ever that the new Evo is the far more enjoyable car.

You may be able to justify the STI with visions of better reliabilty of greater practicaility, but I can't no matter how hard I try. Plus, my Evo has been troublefree even with pushing over 300whp. Lastly, don't equate an Evo to a DSM, they're totally different beasts. The biggest different bein that DSMs were all built in the US and had some known issues due to the sourcing of some poor quality parts. That's simply not an issue with the Evo.

Aznxkaiser 04-28-2008 11:44 PM


Originally Posted by Bumble_Bee (Post 2434058)
I couldn't trade looks for power.. I'll keep my "8"!!!

8 is more "beautiful"
X is meaner

alz0rz 04-29-2008 12:22 AM

weight???

VikingDJ 04-29-2008 01:05 AM

The only conclusion I can come to is that Subaru more or less just said " to hell with battling the EVO, lets make an alternative that's quieter, smoother, more friendly, offers great reliability, yet is still fast. Subaru has gone soft, and I can't say I blame them, but one would hope they'd come back with a new STI in the future, a limited trim that can compete. The new STI is a car my dad would buy and own. The Evo X is not.
As much as the new STI gets criticized by enthusiasts, it has simply become the roomy daily driver hatchback that anyone who drives manual can own, and a car that can appeal to more of a general consumer market who trust Subaru over Mistsubishi in reliability, which lets face it, is made up of less enthusiastic car lovers like ourselves.

Ashame for me really, because the very thing I disliked about my 04 STI was the very things it has now become. I never could get into it as a pure fun enthusiast car. That was always saved for My RX8 and S2000, which are the cars I'm the most enthusiastic about. The STI was a go fast daily winter beater for me, much like my Speed 6 is now. I happen to love the new STI, but I understand. If I was into these cars like I am my S2000, I'd definitely dislike it. Ashame I can't afford one. ;)

CarAndDriver 04-29-2008 01:43 AM

Much better than the Subaru this time around. Subie really dropped the ball. It should come with a 6M.

superglue 04-29-2008 02:47 AM


Originally Posted by CarAndDriver (Post 2434264)
Much better than the Subaru this time around. Subie really dropped the ball. It should come with a 6M.

Autocrossers and tuners are already saying it's the best USDM STI to date. But whatever :uhh:

Moostafa29 04-29-2008 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by Aznxkaiser (Post 2433949)
You should get a cone air filter and make your own heat shield....yields some decent gains and you can hear your factory BoV. Or you can get some of the intakes out now =P Lean out the tune a bit..

I'll be installing my short ram intake, high flow cat, downpipe, and exhaust in the next couple days.

nycgps 04-29-2008 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by Moostafa29 (Post 2434464)
I'll be installing my short ram intake, high flow cat, downpipe, and exhaust in the next couple days.

You still didnt say where you got your Evo X for 33K from ? :lol:

Moostafa29 04-29-2008 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by nycgps (Post 2434539)
You still didnt say where you got your Evo X for 33K from ? :lol:

Capital Mitsubishi in San Jose. Ask for Yohan.


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