Either one would beat your RX-8 in any race: track, dragstrip, stoplight, highway roll....wouldn't matter. You would need binoculars to read the license plate.

And the new F-150 is a heck of a truck, too. Shoot, a stock 1999 F-150 Lightning would give you a good race. But I'm sure such things don't matter to a sophisticated car connoisseur like yourself. To some people however, substance > style.

Changed your oil this week? Gotten the latest reflash? Kept up with those pesky recalls? I really haven't missed those features of RX-8 ownership.

GM is a little too broad of a category...

Don't much like the interior of the CTS
Vette's rock
GTO's rock
Sky/Solstice look pretty fun, i'll have to test drive em when they come out
XLR, loved it since it was the Evoq
The new generation Chevy's look uninspired (Malibu, Cobalt, Impala, Monte Carlo)
Saab 9-3 turbo looks fun
Don't care much for the G6

Didn't they have to recall the GT because the steering would give out at high speeds?

Yeah, I thought about that after I posted it. :o

No recalls on the cobra though.

As far as I heard the problem was found on a test mule that logged 200K miles. Ford didn't want to take any chances so they are replacing the control arms in 150 of the cars. It was the company supplying Ford that messed up, not Ford, and there is a huge fine for dealerships that sell a GT without having the recall addressed.

Oh, my comment about the recall was actually in response to Reactionary's first post. I just don't know how happy I'd be paying hundreds of thousands of dollars for a death trap.

well, you needn't worry anymore, the issue was resolved. Now you're just paying 150k (more like 220k, grey market bastards!!) for a kick ass car. :D

http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=101849
Sounds like Ford actually messed up.

But I guess you gotta give them some respect in dealing with the problem and doing a recall. I bet there's tons of similar problems that auto companies have noticed and ignored.

Ferrari's i'd consider owning
 

well geez, obviously money's no object so why bother with fords and chevys

1) enzo
2) testarossa
3) f40 and f50
4) 456gt
5) anything maranello

What does unseasoned mean? they say in the article that Alfa, Porsche and Fiat use that process and they aren't having any problems. I don't think the fact that Ford chose a hightech method should be held against them, after all, it is a supercar. Name me another supercar that doesn't have some unseasoned processes, materials, or designs.

I dunno. My 1990 Ford Mustang 5.0 LX is still running just fine. It has something like 150k on it now and I had bought it used at 50k. As we all are aware, this generation Mustang has a horrible interior and its share of problem, but ... that car isn't going to die anytime soon either. ;p

umm. All of them.

I bet that if you shift like that in your RX-8, it won't last as long as those who drive it like it's supposed to be driven.

The 8 needs to redline.

I just think using an experimental process in a production environment is a risky move. Kind of reminds me of why we have our iron rings ;)

It's not an experimental process, it is used it industry. If Porsche uses it for the exact same part and it works, I can't find fault with Ford trying it. I am sure Ford asked Citation if they can do it, and I am sure they said yes, clearly they could not.

I guess we just see things differently. I still think it was a risky move by Ford. Other manufacturers may be doing it, but they may also have more experience with semisolid casting...

Pontiac GTO! :D
Saturn Sky
Pontiac Solstice
Caddy CTS-V
Chevy C6 or C5-Z06 'Vette

First of all you have no idea what kind of person I am.I am not a low income,drive it til it falls aprt type of person,and I don't treat every light like a drag strip,but I will on occasion lay down a cloud of smoke on some jack a$$ in a civic.I have not had any major mechanical break down of any vehicle I have ever owned,especially my Dodge truck.It has been ultra reliable,and very inexpensive to own.I have replaced a radiator(last summer),not due to any leaks,but just for peace of mind before it did,I have had the rear end rebuild last fall due to a chipped tooth on the pinion gear(at 224K miles) which was probably due more to it's life hauling things,and the fact that the early Ram's with the diesels didn't have the luxury of having the heavier duty rear end they have now.The only other repairs I have needed are brakes(dodge brakes are not the greatest),tires,oil changes,fuel filter changes,and a master cylinder just recently.that isn't bad for a 226K mile truck.the engine will last a whole lot longer than it has currently without major overhauls which cannot be said for most other engines.

I really resent you thinking that American(Chrysler)vehicle owners are low income.That is just not true.Many Americans that have money still choose to drive American,because they believe in the products.And your whole premises of Amercan cars is off due to the fact that just because it has an AMerican name doesn't mean anything.There are Japanese cars that are fully made(not assembled)in the USA,and there are trucks like my Ram that has an american name that was built in Mexico with and American engine,and some other American parts.

I do all work on my own cars/trucks aside from warrenty work.

I am by no means brutal on any of my vehicles,and guess what I only rev the truck to 2000RPM at the most even though it will rev higher.The sweet spot for the engine is at that RPM.Let me tell you if you drive the RX-8 at those low RPM's you will indeed kill it quicker than anyone else on this forum.Trust me on that one.How many American cars have you owned?How many Chrysler products?How many Rotaries?

I have had my RX-7 for many years with loads of trouble free mileage as well,but I can't say it has been more or less reliable than my Ram.Niether one has left me stranded,and niether one probably will in the future,only the RX-7 is rotting away,and the truck is not.I also have a 74 Rotary truck.Do you think I could have that still be in one piece if I were driving it really hard all the time?

You really come off as a snob with your rants about American cars being crap.They are behind the japanese in many ways,but they are not crap.It all comes down to what you can afford,how big of a vehicle you need,what sort of driving you do.Don't just flat out tell people that they are idiots for buying a Chrysler or any American vehicle,it just makes you look stupid not them.It's either you are really a snob,or your a troll I am betting its the later.Good day.

If you'de rather own an RX-8 than a Viper then you should be committed. You drive a Mazda...not God's chariot. Where is the elitism coming from...GM, Ford, Chrysler...get over yourself dude. Each of those manufacturers builds a car that any true "car guy" would almost sacrifice their first born child for...Viper, Vette, and the new GT.

I just realized you can ignore people on this forum.What a great feature.

I believe you misspelled "because this is my subjective opinion."

:rolleyes: yeah...

I am not a ford "fan boi" or any "fan boi" for an car company. I would "consider" owning those cars but didn't say I will. What's funny to me is you most likely know nothing about these cars so your opinion means the same as shit on my shoe.

Im gonna add Cosworth Escort to my "will buy" list.

When you say you'd "consider owning," does that take into account the ability to purchase? Just curious! ;)

yeah, i'm with blueeyes...all of them

but if I had to pick one, I'd go with the Testarrossa...those things rock