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Originally Posted by MazdaspeedFeras
at first i thought the same, im like i feel the oomph but i dont think im going the fast. The second time i blasted out of the gate though i looked at the speedo, i was going 80 before i knew it. Its a fast car but it is a heavy car. While it handled relatively well in the corners the traction control was flashing a lot (granted it was wet...so were the dealer's pants lol). But the car puts on a solid show for what it is. Its a very fast highway cruiser that can handle better than most and is obviously designed to cater to the 50something lawyer/engineer/doctor crowd that doesnt wanna spring 100k on an M5. It also happens to be whisper quiet i didnt hear a turbo spool once, sounded like a muted stock engine. Its a very deceptive car and i can't wait to see the dinan treatment.
btw i went to two BMW dealers both had the same exact demo car. Medium gray with red leather and frankly relatively few options....same thing at your dealership?? |
The 325 becomes the 328 and is up 15hp and an option or two. The 330 is replaced with the twin turbo 335i. The 325 and 330 was a 1-2 year run (e90). I'd expect to see a whole bunch of those next summer up for sale for good prices.
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Originally Posted by 6speedRenesis
I've got a neighbor who's running a 335i with Forced induction. It's a pretty sweet set up, next time i talk to him i'll see if i can get some pics of it
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i test drove it last week with my friend. we went to the dealership in his M3 conv, Its suffice to say that the 335 feels faster than the M3, the pushed back against your seat feeling in the 335 is stronger than the M3 probably due to the torque difference. The handling isnt as tight as the M3 with a relatively softer suspension. (it is however stiff than the rx8), interior is way better than the M3. lag is non existent, at least I couldnt detect any, and its very quite. The amazing this is the mileage, while the M3 get 16mpg in the city, the 335 EPA is 19-20.
stats wise, C&D 0-60 is 4.9 sec, only .1 sec off M3's 4.8 (5.1 for Is350 and 5.2 for the new G35 sedan) quater mile is 13.6 which is what M3s usually do. From a rolling start, it is actually faster than M3 in just about all categories. Other than the price tag, its a hell of a car, especially considering how cheap it will be to mod a twin turbo car for big gains. automobile mag has already dynoed it and found it to be way underated. the realistic crank hp should be around 350hp and 360lb-ft torque. weakness: -alumninum block... for some reason, it does not have a magnesium block. this means it wont have the crazy 1000+whp bullet proof potential of 2JZ Supra and GT-Rs. -price... 50k for a well equiped entry luxury is pretty hard to swallow. |
Originally Posted by 6speedRenesis
I've got a neighbor who's running a 335i with Forced induction. It's a pretty sweet set up, next time i talk to him i'll see if i can get some pics of it
hell i may bite the bullet and get one myself in the spring |
Originally Posted by MazdaspeedFeras
hell i may bite the bullet and get one myself in the spring
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Please cover your ears youngsters.....That car looks Fuckn sick!!!!
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Originally Posted by NVMYGT
I'm trying so hard to not do the same thing. :nono:
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nice pic !
as far as handling of the car, I was really impressed......the demo I drove had rear active steer though.....I'm pretty sure I am sold. As soon as my 8 sells I am placing the order! Funny thing is just for fun I went back a few days later and drove the g35 I was looking at, and it felt no where near as quick. I BMW is 4-7k more $, but worth it! |
As much as pics I've seen of the coupe previously didn't appeal to me... this one you've posted Blue Eyes is freakin' sick!
Too bad BMW has gotten so crazy with their pricing... this is SUPPOSED to be the entry level car in the US?! |
look on the bright side japan8 you dont have to pay luxury tax in most states on it. ;)
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LOL... true.
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I've been on the e90 forums quite a bit lately gathering info. I thought this thread would provide a good read for those that may jump ship, or are just interested in BMW's unique approach. You can also see the dyno sheet. My God this thing is sounding good!
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29711 |
2007 BMW 335i Dynamometer Revisited: We Test Another One!
Get Discount Pricing Find a Local Car Dealer By Jason Cammisa 2007 BMW 335i Coupe Front Corner A few weeks ago, we got a surprise visit from the new BMW 335i coupe, one of the hottest cars of the year. We’d been quivering in anticipation for the 335i not because it’s a 3-series--although that pedigree doesn’t hurt--but because the mind-meltingly fast two-door offers BMW’s first turbocharged gasoline engine ever to be sold in the States. With this in mind, we just had to take the new coupe to the dyno and see exactly how much power its twin-turbo powerplant puts to the ground. The results? 275 hp and 300 lb-ft of torque at the rear wheels--more than we expected. Rated by the Bimmer boys at 300 hp and 300 lb-ft of torque, it was pretty clear to us that the Bavarian masterpiece was a little underrated from the factory. In the weeks since we first published the results of that test, we’ve heard some criticism of our conclusion that the 335i makes "closer to 350 hp" than the reported 300. We arrived at that verdict after some quick calculations, but since a chassis dyno only reports how many horses make it to the wheels, it’s admittedly a hard number to verify. We did four runs with that particular car, and the actual peaks were 276, 280, 280, and 283 horsepower. We published the lowest number to be sure there was no claim that we were exaggerating the engine’s output. But what if this was a one-time fluke? What if that first 335i was a particularly strong example? Or--gasp--a ringer! The answer to that question appeared in the form of another 335i (this time painted space gray metallic) that BMW dropped off last week. Again, without hesitation, we grabbed the keys and headed for the dyno shop. 2007 BMW 335i Coupe Rear Corner On the way, we were pleased to find intact the awesome midrange torque and incredible straight-six soundtrack. Reacquainting ourselves with the gauges, we noticed that, as with the original tester, the oil temperature stabilized at 240 degrees Fahrenheit while cruising in sixth gear at 80 mph. Lesser engines would melt at those temperatures! Temperature? Wait! A quick look at the outside temperature display showed that it was only 78 degrees Fahrenheit outside. The last time we put a 335i on the rollers, it was 92. Everybody knows that engines make more power when they get cooler air--and that turbocharged engines are particularly susceptible to heat soak. We stopped worrying and started getting excited. This one might do even better. We strapped the 335i down, started it up, and did three runs back to back to back. The results were very consistent, showing peaks of 285 hp, then 282 hp, and, finally, 287 hp. This 335i was even stronger at the top end than the last one, but not as strong in the midrange. Peak torque was stable through all three runs at about 285 lb-ft. After the final run, we decided to grab audio of the 335i running from first gear through fourth. We expected to have the hairs on the back of our neck stand up at the sound of the 3.0-liter engine at full throat, but what we didn’t expect, of course, was a peak hp number nudging the 300-hp mark. That’s right--shortly after the shift into fourth, this second 335i peaked briefly at 299.93 hp. Looking closely at the chart, there’s a likely explanation for that outrageous number. No, it wasn’t additional torque from a rough shift--the peak occurred too long after the gear change. Like most turbocharged cars, the computer allows a momentary spike of boost before stabilizing it at a prescribed level. We lucked out, as that spike happened right at the engine’s inherent power peak, so we got a little nudge in the final number. Whether the dyno numbers ultimately translate into 300 hp, 350 hp, or 327.543-to-the-fifth-power-hp, the results speak for themselves: this is one very powerful engine. Be sure to click below to see--and hear--the 335i's through the gears dyno run! Download Wallpaper: click here for zoomed image Click here to post on a forum about this article. Click here to post on a forum about this article. SEE THE THROUGH-THE-GEARS VIDEO Video: 2007 BMW 335i Through-the-gears Dyno Run For your listening pleasure, we did a through-the-gears dyno run to hear just what the BMW 335i sounds like in a drag race. The bonus? This run actually resulted in the highest horsepower number of the day. OTHER RELATED MEDIA 2007 BMW 335i Dynamometer Run We put BMW’s new twin turbo 335i on a chassis dyno to see what the future of BMW engines looks like, graphically. And it looks big. BMW rates this new engine at 300 horsepower, but that is a major understatement. 2007 BMW 335i Coupe Photo Gallery The new 2007 BMW 335i is a blast to drive, thanks to two turbochargers, but it's also stunning to look at, thanks to gorgeous styling and hot blue paint. Check out our wallpaper gallery here. 2007 BMW 3-series Coupe Our extensive coverage of the 2006 Paris auto show includes the much-anticipated turbocharged BMW 335i coupe. Get the full scoop here and then check out the rest of our show coverage. Related Articles 2007 BMW 3-series Coupe 2007 BMW 335i Dynamometer Run 2007 BMW 335i Coupe Photo Gallery Save a link to this article and return to it at www.savethis.comSave a link to this article and return to it at www.savethis.com Email a link to this articleEmail a link to this article Printer-friendly version of this articlePrinter-friendly version of this article View a list of the most popular articles on our siteView a list of the most popular articles on our site |
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Originally Posted by BlueEyes
Would that be the forced induction that comes stock on the car?
no, bigger blower then factory |
What?
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Moostafa,
e90post's forums has earned a bookmark right next to rx8club on my toolbar. I really should be looking for an all purpose winter-ready vehicle, but I can't help but think about how good a twin turbo 3-series would look parked next to the rx-8. |
Wow!!! this car is insane!!
Playdoh Is the 3.0 liter that comes in the 328i exactly the same as the 335i? Or does the latter have stronger internals? |
not the same, and not worth it if you think you can save money and buy a 328 and turbo charging it vs buying a 335. 335 actually dosnt have the magnesium blocks that other E90 3 series have, they went with aluminum for whatever reason. theres a plethora of other differences in the drivetrain.
what i like the most about the the dyno is the torque curve. a lot of people get stuck up on the max hp and tq figures, but in reality its the area under the curve that counts. 335 has a nice and flat torque curve where you get max torque very early and retains it all the way till ~5500 rpm. the 3.5L engines from toyota and nissan dosnt see max torque until 4800rpm and only last a few hundred rpms. |
The Germans seem to be pretty keen about this kind of tuning... VAG with the 2.0 FSI Turbo and the DI V8 in the RS4...
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playdoh that is exactly what I noticed when I went for a test drive - instant power off the line ! I drove the auto, and it was still significantly faster the the manual G35 I drove, and even the manual 350z I drove a few mths ago. Can't wait till this car is in my driveway :)
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I am seriously considering this too. Seems to be a great value. After I read the C&D review I thought this makes much more sense to me than an M3 and it is cheaper AND you can get 4 doors if you are so inclined. Seems like a no brainer to me. The only thing I don't like is you see soooooooooooooo many 3 series on the road and this doesn't really stand out from the rest of them in any signifcant way as far as the look goes.
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i imagine the japanese cars being like 10k cheaper helps a bit hehe, at this price i would seriously be considering the new 415hp M3 that starts in the low 50ks and the upcoming GT-R
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