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Ajax 06-11-2009 08:54 AM

Audi drops the weight on the S5 and ends up with a car that's actually compelling...
 
This is from a couple days ago, but I was pretty shocked when I saw the actual numbers on it.

Taken from:
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/06/08/t...e-less-weight/


Originally Posted by autoblog
Audi is developing the groundwork for an entirely new way of building its cars. The future for the four rings is light weight, giving it the proper base to support the best hybrid and electric cars, as well as extract the most from its traditional offerings.

As previously reported, the first example from the test lab is an S5 that is 400 kg -- yes, 880 pounds -- lighter than a traditional S5. Whereas the conventional S5 uses a 354 hp V8, the experimental utilizes a 230 hp four-cylinder, yet laps the 'Ring a humongous eight seconds faster than the V8. The test, of course, is to make such technology cost feasible to consumers and safe to boot.

The reduced calorie S5 is a hybrid steel and aluminum body built over a spaceframe, but Audi didn't say what the spaceframe was composed of. One hopes that they haven't started off with something unobtanium, and that given time, VW group scale could keep the price within a single-digit percent of the current car. If Audi does manage to get the light weight, safety, and affordability equation correct, that could make them... Lotus.

Now, if they can make a car that performs and doesn't feel like it's way overpriced, they'll have something. BMW is expected to follow suit with the 1 series and 3 series in the F20 and F30 platforms, so the race to get lighter may finally be here.

If we can get all the damn pickups off the road in texas, they might be safe to drive, too!

alfy28 06-11-2009 09:21 AM

Wow nice find ajax. talk about major improvements.

MICHGoBlue 06-11-2009 09:29 AM

In the world of Horsepower Wars, it's refreshing to see automakers go the diff route.
I see nothing but pros in weight reducing.
Quicker acceleration, better fuel mileage, and with the right material, should be able to lighten the car without sacrificing crash ratings.

DailyDriver2k5 06-11-2009 09:32 AM

8 seconds on a race track amounts to a huge lead. That is amazing numbers from a car that is 124 HP shy of it counterpart. Less weight is King.:)

JRichter 06-11-2009 10:20 AM

I saw this story yesterday, very interesting. I still think the S5 is one of the best looking cars on sale today - hard to see all of the beauty in pics. Even if I could afford one, the stock weight would kill the deal for me but the light version would be nice.

Ajax 06-11-2009 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by JRichter (Post 3064404)
I saw this story yesterday, very interesting. I still think the S5 is one of the best looking cars on sale today - hard to see all of the beauty in pics. Even if I could afford one, the stock weight would kill the deal for me but the light version would be nice.

Yep.
880lbs puts it just below 3000lbs tho. 3858 - 880 =2978 = fun to drive!
Now imagine if they did the same w/the S4 or the TTs. The TT is 3,125lbs. just imagine if they cut that by the same percent reduction. That'd make the TT 712lbs lighter or around 2400lbs. I doubt they could pull that off, but even half of that would be major.

alfy28 06-11-2009 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by DailyDriver2k5 (Post 3064337)
8 seconds on a race track amounts to a huge lead. That is amazing numbers from a car that is 124 HP shy of it counterpart. Less weight is King.:)

yep, especially in qualifying for a grid spot. 8 sec most likely will get you fired from the team :lol:

DailyDriver2k5 06-11-2009 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by Ajax (Post 3064429)
Yep.
880lbs puts it just below 3000lbs tho. 3858 - 880 =2978 = fun to drive!
Now imagine if they did the same w/the S4 or the TTs. The TT is 3,125lbs. just imagine if they cut that by the same percent reduction. That'd make the TT 712lbs lighter or around 2400lbs. I doubt they could pull that off, but even half of that would be major.

What if Mazda knocked off 880lbs from the RX-8 but left everything else alone? Our cars handle excellent in stock form , 880lbs lighter would put our cars into the Godly realm of performance numbers.

dmorales 06-11-2009 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by DailyDriver2k5 (Post 3064667)
What if Mazda knocked off 880lbs from the RX-8 but left everything else alone? Our cars handle excellent in stock form , 880lbs lighter would put our cars into the Godly realm of performance numbers.

Honestly, I don't know what they would have to do to make our cars that much lighter. Wow, there's not a lot of frills on our cars and the materials are already light and sparing in some cases.

But yes, that would be AMAZING!

Has anyone on this forum lightened their 8 that far?
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rancan 06-15-2009 03:13 AM

the s5 looks amazingly badass


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