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VelociRedBeast 10-18-2004 08:22 PM

2005 Mustang
 
Seen what must have been a car dealer(since thier not out yet) driving it down the road, and it looks pretty damn nice..Umm..Might trade my 8 for it..

s13lover 10-18-2004 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by VelociRedBeast
(since thier not out yet)

They went on sale around 2 weeks ago.

XeRo 10-18-2004 09:03 PM

i wouldn't trade the 8 for it but...so far from what i've seen it's pretty nice...most of the one's at the dealerships are pre-orders....there were 38,000 of them!!!...haven't driven one yet...but would still never own it...well..the wife could...i love my 8...

VelociRedBeast 10-18-2004 09:08 PM

oh, the website says Nov. 1

PoorCollegeKid 10-18-2004 10:56 PM


Originally Posted by VelociRedBeast
Seen what must have been a car dealer(since thier not out yet) driving it down the road, and it looks pretty damn nice..Umm..Might trade my 8 for it..

Ford brought one to my school for our career fair a month or so ago, and I seriously thought it was an old 196x Mustang when I first caught a glimpse of the front. I really like the way that it looks for now, but I'm not sure how much I'll like it 5 years down the road when you see them everywhere. Can't argue with the bang-for-your-buck that a new GT has, though...

Mugatu 10-18-2004 11:10 PM

i saw it on a Ford lot, and I gotta tell ya, it looked a little "bleh". It was a yellow one, and somehow the car looks a little unfinished...I DEFINITELY wouldn't trade my 8 for one.

JeRKy 8 Owner 10-18-2004 11:14 PM

Holy shit thiscar is inexpensive! You can get a base 2005 GT (thats 300 horsepower/320 torque) for less than even a base 2005 AUTOMATIC Rx8.

ALMOST8IT 10-18-2004 11:15 PM

From the photos, the '05 mustang looks really good. If the pre-press numbers are right and the v8 GT begins in the 28k range, then this is a darn good bang for the buck. It seems strange though that Ford has two sports cars that sticker in the sub 30k market (the RX8 and Musstang GT) while GM appears to be ignoring the market.

Before the flames begin, look at the Ford Company site which clearly shows the mustang and rx-8 in the sports coupe section.

shelleys_man_06 10-19-2004 12:51 AM

This is a repost; nobody ever bothered to try a search. I'm going to ask to get these threads merged or something.

https://www.rx8club.com/general-automotive-49/new-mustang-40733/

Oh yeah. I left a 2005 Mustang commercial in my "Bored" thread. :)

Fanman 10-19-2004 01:06 AM

I was so looking forward to seeing this car at the LA autoshow. When I first saw the pictures I thought it looked stunning. I was completely underwhelmed when I saw the car at the autoshow. Up close it looks good, but not great, and the interior is typical Ford/Mustang....cheap. I had a 2001 GT Convertible, and the interior quality looks very similar to that. The seats are still the same flat Mustang seat. Disappointing.

mikeb 10-19-2004 07:32 PM

I took a look at one last night
at a OC dealer
it was a black GT with red interior and already sold

28k plus 5k mark up right now

it looks bad ass

shorty911 10-20-2004 11:35 AM

even though they look diferent i would rather get a preowned svt cobra then those the cobras interior is nicer and its alot faster but i would never trade in an rx8 for a mustang

rotten42 10-20-2004 12:43 PM

a total re-design but still a solid rear axel.....not acceptable.

G8rboy 10-20-2004 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by rotten42
a total re-design but still a solid rear axel.....not acceptable.

Actually, I think the GT gets an independant rear, but the base model is solid... which I agree is unacceptable in this day and age.

DreRX8 10-20-2004 01:05 PM

No the GT still has solid--the Cobra will have independent

G8rboy 10-20-2004 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by DreRX8
No the GT still has solid--the Cobra will have independent

My bad... I swore I read that in one of the mags. That is really stupid... why only give good handling to the Cobra again??

PoorCollegeKid 10-20-2004 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by G8rboy
My bad... I swore I read that in one of the mags. That is really stupid... why only give good handling to the Cobra again??

The GT will handle decently enough even with the solid rear axle (decently enough meaning markedly better than the old GT) that it isn't much of a loss from a quick and cheap IRS setup. Remember, price is a factor with this car, and the solid rear is apparently the only set up that's both cheap enough to let Ford sell the V6 Mustang at a healthy profit for only $20k and strong enough to withstand the torque of the GT. Add to that the fact that a solid rear is a better drag racing setup and the Mustang is largely a drag racing car, and it's no suprise that the new Mustang V6 and GT get solid rears. It all has to do with the demographics....

DreRX8 10-20-2004 02:37 PM

Yeah--basically it was cost cutting 1st--the fact that it is a good setup for drag is a sellable point.

mikeb 10-20-2004 02:51 PM

well,
I'm not a fan of mustangs
but seeing this car in person made me a BIG fan

DreRX8 10-20-2004 03:22 PM

Same here--I have a friend that has a v6(!) Mustang and says he wouldn't buy another one for anything--reliability was horrid.

AbusiveWombat 10-20-2004 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by G8rboy
My bad... I swore I read that in one of the mags. That is really stupid... why only give good handling to the Cobra again??

A solid rear axle does not mean that it will inherently have bad handling. Someone on another forum pointed out that this year a camero won SCCA Solo2 beating out an EVO. Just goes to show that a solid rear can do a pretty good job with the right suspension.

Ninja 10-20-2004 04:33 PM

My wife and I went to the Ford dealership this last weekend to get some maintenance done on her truck. As soon as I pulled into the lot with my 8, I noticed a couple of the guys staring over at my car. As we were leaving there was one guy just standing there staring over at my car, and another one FOLLOWED me out to the car and started asking questions! Then the guy that was staring walked up. I ended up popping the hood so they could look at the engine.

Got a couple more comments from other guys when we picked her truck up. It was SOOOO cool! I love my 8! :)

MikeW 10-20-2004 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by AbusiveWombat
A solid rear axle does not mean that it will inherently have bad handling. Someone on another forum pointed out that this year a camero won SCCA Solo2 beating out an EVO. Just goes to show that a solid rear can do a pretty good job with the right suspension.

I wonder how many potholes and railroad tracks were on that course?
I wonder how much unsprung weight is in the back 400 lbs? is that double the unsprung weight in the back of the RX-8.

I find it ironic that ford has a relatively good independent rear suspension on the explorer and expedition, that according to ford cut unsprung weight in half, while their 'pony' car has some lame antiquated solid axle. Is there really $5000 more content in a GT vs. base. engine cost, marginal amortized cost among pickups, same transmission(s) exhaust system.
I could see the base car at $20, and the GT @ $22 and that would not be so egregious.

BaronVonBigmeat 10-20-2004 08:48 PM

The new GT will have a different engine than the V6 of course, but also a different transmission and rear axle. And probably better brakes, but I'm just guessing on that. So yeah, the $5,000 isn't just the engine.

The solid axle will do fine. It's actually better for drag racing than IRS, and the enthusiasts who are interested in Mustang are generally more interested in drag racing. People who are interested in the utmost in finesse handling are shopping for something else in the first place.

I do wish Ford would have a special edition Mustang GT that offered IRS + a super deluxe interior package (designer Italian baby lambskin upholstery with silk stitching and polished billet titanium accents). It would sell for $32k and no one would buy it, but it would silence all the critics.

snap-on 10-20-2004 08:58 PM

I wonder why they went out of their way to design a dash with 125 color choices.

I did see the pre-released TV ads today.

One was nice..guy makes a road course in a corn field similar to "Field of Dreams" and Steve McQueen comes out to drive the car.


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