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Old 06-21-2005, 07:10 PM
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100 Greatest Cars

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http://www.channel4.com/4car/100-gre...ts/100-91.html
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Kinda have to disagree on alot of them especially the Ford Focus at #62 which I dont even think it should of been on the list! Oh yea, I have no problem with the McLaren F1 to take the top spot though.
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What about the Buick Grand National?
Fastest US production car in 1987.
GNX even better!
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They're still making RX-7s?
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^ i thought the last rx-7 was made in 2002?\
wierd typo maybe?
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that list is about the dumbest thing i've ever seen
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Originally Posted by TRU681
Kinda have to disagree on alot of them especially the Ford Focus at #62 which I dont even think it should of been on the list!
They are counting the Euro Focus which is 100x times better than the US Focus.

And woot to the F40, and DB9.

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this list was put together by an english company, and thier biased european preferences are clearly showing. French car are vastly over represented, while some very excellent jap and US cars are no where to be found.

Where are the mitsu 3000, or the vtec honda's. How about any thunderbirds or strangely many lambo's missing in action. Where is the 959 or the BMW 6-series. How about the camero line or even the minivan that stated it all, the caravan. No integra's or 1st/2nd gen eclipse. How about F40's or lotus espirit, or even and Audi s4 quattro. How about james bonds astin martin and who would put the VW GTI in second...
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Bah, you can never believe these sort of lists anyway., it's not set in gold.
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Nissan Skyline. 14th. (please return to us soon, Skyline. return to us soon)

I would have put the RX-7 at least in the top 30 though.
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HORSE CRAP! thats what that list is
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I could have missed it but I didn't see a supra
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Originally Posted by rodrigo67
Where are the mitsu 3000, or the vtec honda's. How about any thunderbirds or strangely many lambo's missing in action. Where is the 959 or the BMW 6-series. How about the camero line or even the minivan that stated it all, the caravan. No integra's or 1st/2nd gen eclipse. How about F40's or lotus espirit, or even and Audi s4 quattro. How about james bonds astin martin and who would put the VW GTI in second...
Why on earth would the 3000 GT make that list, it wasn't even as good as its competitors in its day? Also there are too many Lambos on the list, IMO the Gallardo could easily have been left off. The Countach was a cool car, but it's more a cartoon than a great automotive feat Also, keep in mind this is a Euro publication, there is no such thing as a DSM there. The F40 is #9 on the list, and I see no reason why the Espirit would make the list nor the S4 (especially with the E46 M3 missing). Lastly, hot hatchs are the big thing in Europe and have been for years, and Rally is the #1 motorsport. Keeping those things in mind the list makes perfect sense.
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The list was an interesting read, nothing more. And that's all it really has to be.

It skews European, sure. An American list would skew toward U.S. and Japanese cars. But the London taxi in the top 100? Get real. And why not the first production turbo car? Probably because it was American.

Cadillac gets a very condescending entry. Not that I really like Cadillac, but once upon a time it was the epitome of luxury and quality and introduced numerous innovations. I believe Cadillac was the first with a battery start so that you didn't have to hand-crank the engine. Seems like that would deserve a mention!
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I'd like one o' them Bugatti Atlantics.
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Years ago when the F1 came out, I was obsessed and did soooooo much research. It truely is the most amazing car of the 20th. Maybe one of the few cars that the AC works worse than the 8's.
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No flywheel on the McClaren... thats cool
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When I saw the Phaeton at 98, and Audi TT at 42, I was pretty much done with the list.
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I completely agree with the #1 choice though, IMO there's isn't going to be another McLaren type car for awhile. I mean 10K? cd player, 3 seats, and was the fastest car in the world by a large margin. wow. I heard if you brought that car used they'll sent it back to the factory and reuphoster the interior for you with no extra charge.
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Under the RX-7 link they have a list of the top 10 rotary cars. It's an interesting read.
I didn't know that Mercedes and Citroen had Wankel powered cars.

http://www.channel4.com/4car/feature...ten-849-2.html
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Originally Posted by Machan
Under the RX-7 link they have a list of the top 10 rotary cars. It's an interesting read.
I didn't know that Mercedes and Citroen had Wankel powered cars.

http://www.channel4.com/4car/feature...ten-849-2.html
That was very interesting
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Suprised to see the 944 Turbo left off.
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terrible list, but i initially took it with a grain of salt anyway. IMO you cant have an american or european do that, it will be too biased, it has to be from a country that gets an equal amount of imports from japan america and europe
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