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rayshaw23 04-17-2005 10:00 AM

warranty from PI....
 
hey, whats does the one year warranty from PI covers? i got my car send for repair because all the warning lights came on, no power steering and the RPM stuck at 0 even though i can rev the engine.... wonder if i can get a brand new car? heeheehee.... this time will get the 6speed with sunroof.... muahahahaha!!!!
oh ya, btw anyone else met with this before? cuz the mechanics cant seem to find the problem.... i thought was a simple blown fuse cause that day was raining heavily, but it isnt.... :confused: :( :confused: :(

EBS 04-17-2005 10:18 AM

Did he try resetting the ECU?

CaNNaVaR0 04-17-2005 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by rayshaw23
hey, whats does the one year warranty from PI covers? i got my car send for repair because all the warning lights came on, no power steering and the RPM stuck at 0 even though i can rev the engine.... wonder if i can get a brand new car? heeheehee.... this time will get the 6speed with sunroof.... muahahahaha!!!!
oh ya, btw anyone else met with this before? cuz the mechanics cant seem to find the problem.... i thought was a simple blown fuse cause that day was raining heavily, but it isnt.... :confused: :( :confused: :(

looks like itz nt a simple problem...
however, i feel itz the ecu problem as all the problems you mentioned has got something to do with the ecu...
probably theres some wire shorted with another in the circuits because of the rain or the heat from the engine melt out one of the chips...
itz very difficult to troubleshoot this kinda of electronic stuff...
i know...hehe... studied this subject

rayshaw23 04-17-2005 10:36 AM

oh man, sounds like another few more days without my baby.... it broke down since last monday and its gonna reach one week already....
any idea whats the warranty gonna be like if they couldnt find the problem?

CaNNaVaR0 04-17-2005 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by rayshaw23
oh man, sounds like another few more days without my baby.... it broke down since last monday and its gonna reach one week already....
any idea whats the warranty gonna be like if they couldnt find the problem?


they will try and try and try and try to fix up your vehicle by liasing with japan or somewhere else... coz itz too expensive for them to send it back to japan.. and whatsmore... if they send it back, they are gonna lose most of their margin...
but then again, they might have warranty from japan... so it depends on hw they good their service is...

you should try pushing them to get yours done soon... as you did not pay for your car to get spoilt so easily...

coupe07 04-17-2005 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by rayshaw23
hey, whats does the one year warranty from PI covers? i got my car send for repair because all the warning lights came on, no power steering and the RPM stuck at 0 even though i can rev the engine.... wonder if i can get a brand new car? heeheehee.... this time will get the 6speed with sunroof.... muahahahaha!!!!
oh ya, btw anyone else met with this before? cuz the mechanics cant seem to find the problem.... i thought was a simple blown fuse cause that day was raining heavily, but it isnt.... :confused: :( :confused: :(

1 to 1 exchange is near to impossible....... they will try their best to remedy ur car......

rayshaw23 04-17-2005 11:05 AM

it annoys the shit out of me when i keep calling them.... think the receptionist also know me already....

CaNNaVaR0 04-17-2005 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by rayshaw23
it annoys the shit out of me when i keep calling them.... think the receptionist also know me already....


think you need to be more fierce otherwise itz gonna drag for a long time
threaten them with something like legal action or wat nought

EBS 04-17-2005 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by CaNNaVaR0
they will try and try and try and try to fix up your vehicle by liasing with japan or somewhere else... coz itz too expensive for them to send it back to japan.. and whatsmore... if they send it back, they are gonna lose most of their margin...
but then again, they might have warranty from japan... so it depends on hw they good their service is...

you should try pushing them to get yours done soon... as you did not pay for your car to get spoilt so easily...

Hi Bro

Sorry I may be wrong but PI cars have no warranty from Japan. The cars are not supposed to be exported. They have local warranty but once exported, no more liao which is why local PI support is CRUCIAL! Do u guys know PI cars are purchased locally in Japan and de-registered within 3 days to export? Then it is considered 'new' car in Singapore! Any recall, esp majotr ones are only supported by the local PI and their Jap counterpart (not Mazda Japan). So if u need to change a headlight housing, for example, Mazda Japan will pass the right part to the 'registered ex owner' in Japan (3 days owner) and it is up to the Japan ex owner to pass the part to their counterpart in Spore (the PI). so if the chain break down, the local PI has to procure the parts directly from Japan to honour their 'warranty'.
Thats how I understand the relationship bet the PI and their Japan counterpart.

If I am wrong, pse correct me so we can all learn :D

coupe07 04-17-2005 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by rayshaw23
it annoys the shit out of me when i keep calling them.... think the receptionist also know me already....

go down and make noise..... calling them is not as effective as gg down..... a lawyer may not be effective at this stage as they did not sign an agreement with u saying they need to compensate u for loss of use...... at least they are now honouring their warranty they have for u....... when it comes to the stage where they bo chup within the warranty, then its time for legal action

as for warranty from jap, agree with ebs.. once exported out, no longer bound by warranty from jap as warranty only for domestic.

CaNNaVaR0 04-17-2005 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by EBS
Hi Bro

Sorry I may be wrong but PI cars have no warranty from Japan. The cars are not supposed to be exported. They have local warranty but once exported, no more liao which is why local PI support is CRUCIAL! Do u guys know PI cars are purchased locally in Japan and de-registered within 3 days to export? Then it is considered 'new' car in Singapore! Any recall, esp majotr ones are only supported by the local PI and their Jap counterpart (not Mazda Japan). So if u need to change a headlight housing, for example, Mazda Japan will pass the right part to the 'registered ex owner' in Japan (3 days owner) and it is up to the Japan ex owner to pass the part to their counterpart in Spore (the PI). so if the chain break down, the local PI has to procure the parts directly from Japan to honour their 'warranty'.
Thats how I understand the relationship bet the PI and their Japan counterpart.

If I am wrong, pse correct me so we can all learn :D

oic... i m not very sure about the warranty from japan too...
anyway we all learn along the way

EBS 04-17-2005 02:21 PM

My colleague's ex PI car was stuck with the PI/workshop for 4 mths pending the ECU replacement from Japan! At least the PI was good enug to loan him another car (a Merc!) during that time.

So having a good relationship with ur PI does help. It all depend on who u deal with.

sgrenesis 04-18-2005 03:53 AM

It would be best if you got in contact with naughty boy, cause he actually had the same or similar problem and it was somehow rectified.

rayshaw23 04-18-2005 04:45 AM

thanks, i remember one member used to have a similar problem as compared to mine, but i try to find the previous tread but cant get anything....

sgrenesis 04-18-2005 04:58 AM

another is bro DRU9888 ......errr... something like that.

heh heh. pai seh forget.

rayshaw23 04-18-2005 05:01 AM

haha, ok ok, i PM naughty boy liao.

dru8999 04-18-2005 08:06 AM

I was without my car for almost 8 weeks last year because of ECU problem. Was driving at the basement of Raffles City when the CEL lighted up and immediately after that, not much response from the accelerator. It simply refused to go above 2k rpm. had the car towed back to my PI, who then immediately courier the ECU Japan the same day. Waited 2 weeks the ECu came back but problem was not solved. What is interesting is that when the PI replaced my ECU with another RX8's ECU, the problem disappeared and that RX8 inherited my problem. Concluded that the ECU is the cause and they had a new ECU shipped from Japan but the hassle took almost 8 weeks bcos Japan had a one-week holiday during that period. Keeping my fingers crossed for you that your problem is as easy as mine to resolve but the good thing is that fuel comsumption seemed to improved after I got the new ECU and everything is ok up till now.

Genesis 04-18-2005 08:24 AM

Still...two months is a long time without yer 8 bro! Glad it worked out for ya though. I bot from MM to (hopefully) avoid two months without my wheels should a problem like bad ECU surface. Plus, knowing it would cost more than PI, I wanted the FE32 Euro spec six speed :)

rayshaw23 04-18-2005 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by Genesis
Still...two months is a long time without yer 8 bro! Glad it worked out for ya though. I bot from MM to (hopefully) avoid two months without my wheels should a problem like bad ECU surface. Plus, knowing it would cost more than PI, I wanted the FE32 Euro spec six speed :)

wait a min, i thought there is only one type of 6speed? is the euro spec higher in horsepower?

EBS 04-18-2005 08:56 AM

Prob the emmission standard in Europe is tougher and the type of petrol available make the 6 speeds 'different'. euro spec FE32 is slightly less powered on paper compared to the SE3P.

Genesis 04-18-2005 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by rayshaw23
wait a min, i thought there is only one type of 6speed? is the euro spec higher in horsepower?

Only one type of RX-8 6MT, the FE32 is the Euro export which we get here from MM, the JDM is something like SE3P, but same car except for a few little goodie extras like puddle lights :p

Genesis 04-18-2005 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by EBS
Prob the emmission standard in Europe is tougher and the type of petrol available make the 6 speeds 'different'. euro spec FE32 is slightly less powered on paper compared to the SE3P.

Beat me to the post punch EBS :) Didn't know about the emmission standards tho.

EBS 04-18-2005 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by dru8999
I was without my car for almost 8 weeks last year because of ECU problem. Was driving at the basement of Raffles City when the CEL lighted up and immediately after that, not much response from the accelerator. It simply refused to go above 2k rpm. had the car towed back to my PI, who then immediately courier the ECU Japan the same day. Waited 2 weeks the ECu came back but problem was not solved. What is interesting is that when the PI replaced my ECU with another RX8's ECU, the problem disappeared and that RX8 inherited my problem. Concluded that the ECU is the cause and they had a new ECU shipped from Japan but the hassle took almost 8 weeks bcos Japan had a one-week holiday during that period. Keeping my fingers crossed for you that your problem is as easy as mine to resolve but the good thing is that fuel comsumption seemed to improved after I got the new ECU and everything is ok up till now.

A silver lining there. Most local early RX8 (PI) seems to run slightly lower FC becos of the ECU. The newer batch has a slightly higher FC and I average 420 on 70% highway.
Bro rayshaw23 prob sound 'similar' so a change of ECU hopefully will solve the prob.

EBS 04-18-2005 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by Genesis
Beat me to the post punch EBS :) Didn't know about the emmission standards tho.

Its the same JDM car, tweaked at the exhaust and dynoed using diff petrol and ..... RE32!!!

Genesis 04-18-2005 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by EBS
Its the same JDM car, tweaked at the exhaust and dynoed using diff petrol and ..... RE32!!!

Ugh...RE32? Well at least they put RE040's on the stock FE32 to Sing, but I dumped those tyres anyway :D


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